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| Vintage | 2009 | Label 1 of 183
| Type | Red | Producer | Château Lilian Ladouys (web) | Variety | Red Bordeaux Blend | Designation | n/a | Vineyard | n/a | Country | France | Region | Bordeaux | SubRegion | Médoc | Appellation | St. Estèphe | UPC Code(s) | 031259041278, 3419466179408, 3490890008120, 3760211020019, 3760211020026, 3760211020040, 3760211020187, 3760211020521, 400001894071, 616773457097, 616773486738, 636659010031, 649185003866, 649944111245, 714153084298, 840877110682 |
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| Community Tasting Notes (average 90.5 pts. and median of 91 pts. in 786 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | Tasted by dalemosier on 4/20/2024 & rated 92 points: I had a bottle at my daughter's house that was somewhat vinegary - thought it was passed its prime. This bottle was very good and should be at its prime at least another year (403 views) | | Tasted by Maximus on 4/6/2024: Tannins are melted. Very good and ready to drink now. (891 views) | | Tasted by swiftr on 3/2/2024 & rated 88 points: First bottle opened of a case of 12. Lots of deposit, fairly solid. Pleasant fruity nose, rich sweet fruit on the palate with soft tannins. Not complex (yet?) but a very enjoyable modern style Bordeaux. Might develop further though it will be hard to resist the luscious fruit. (1817 views) | | Tasted by robert.kalinowski@gmail.com on 2/10/2024 & rated 92 points: per usual, reports of the death of this wine was greatly exaggerated. (I find drink by dates in CT are typically conservative for my taste - unless it's a well made Rioja which people seem to give a 40 years past vintage...) Maybe I just like aged wines. Had this with Gordon Ramsy's butter based ny strips. Delicious. I have one more which I'll hold onto for at least 2-4 more years. It tasted to me like it could stand up to a legit 15 yo napa cabs. Lots more dark fruit and body and sweetness than I imagined it would have. I haven't had one in a long time, but I'm going to keep picking them up if I see them in the 20-25 range, that's crazy good for the price at this age. (2233 views) | | Tasted by GAET on 2/3/2024 & rated 88 points: 1ere bouteille. Nez assez mutique. Peut-être servi trop froid vers 17° Robe noire, aucune trace d'évolution. En bouche : assez monolithique . Gloabalement déçu, je m'attendais à beaucoup mieux ! (2374 views) | | Tasted by Nutty08 on 1/31/2024 & rated 87 points: Not my favorite vintage and not as strong as more recent vintages. Dark fruited and quite extracted with heavy toast and mocha notes. Don’t get much nuance or terrior here. (2688 views) | | Tasted by ArtF on 12/11/2023 & rated 92 points: Deep maroon to rim. After 30 minutes in glass, drying tannins, mushroom, lead pencil, blackberry. Full bodied, long finish, definitely Bordeaux. Still firm next day. This will continue drinking well another 5+ years. Nice surprise. (2818 views) | | Tasted by texaswinelover on 11/16/2023: Riper than I remember. Not sure how anyone doesn’t LOVE this for sub $18 Bordeaux. Admittedly I’ve stored it for 14 years but tasty tonight. Glad I sat on this. (2616 views) | | Tasted by King_Arthur on 11/7/2023 & rated 93 points: It still keeps on improving. Powerful, fruity. (2612 views) | | Tasted by Julian Marshall on 10/21/2023 & rated 90 points: Not my cup of tea at all but I can see why others like it, hence the score. Candied notes on the nose, quite charming and mouth-watering. Candied notes on the palate too, quite fruity and winsome but for me, a bit syrupy and facile. I could really taste the 14% because of the low acidity. Like other vintages tasted, this could have come from anywhere in the world. But a well-made product. (2734 views) | | Tasted by Sggus on 9/27/2023 & rated 91 points: From a magnum. Deep purple color. After a little bit of air, it opened up well and became wonderfully complex. I caught notes of violet and raw meat against a cassis base. Freshness on the palate but lacking real substance. It felt a bit hollow. Mouth coating dry tannins and a good length finish. (2830 views) | | Tasted by euroyup on 9/8/2023: A ripe nose with notes of wood and cedar, and a nice amount of depth. The taste showed some nice fruit, with still some unresolved tannins, but dominated by a rather prominent, and burning amount of alcohol. At the sixth day with vacu-vin in the fridge slightly better. Especially the finish was more friendly (more fruit, more soft), be it a little bit faint. Although more developed since my last bottle of this wine in February 2021, this needs more aging of at least one year, probably more. Perhaps it will gain some more balance. Potentially 88+. (I will reflect on the remarkable difference between the ratings of most TN-writers and mine.) (2657 views) | | Tasted by Purple Tooth on 7/17/2023 & rated 92 points: Very nice for the price as always. The 2009 was my first vintage of this wine and I followed it year over year to see if we could get a repeat. Though this is always a nice modern example of Bordeaux, nothing compares to the 2009, yet....Elegant, earthy, coffee nuances....This is fully sitting in phase 2. Drink (3487 views) | | Tasted by Barolo Raymond on 6/20/2023 & rated 92 points: Pitch-dark purple-ruby, carmine, opaque and viscous @14% abv. Nose of black cherry, blackberry jam, oak, dried leaves, cedar, smoke, vanilla hints. Dry, medium acidity, medium-medium(+) ripe tannin, high alcohol and full body. Blackberry, blueberry, pepper, leather, oak and a distinctive savory notes in the back palate. Deeply concentrated, with crunch and and a long, elegant, velvety finish. Supple, seductive and mature. Very good indeed. Only 4 bottles to go.
In the drinking window. (3398 views) | | Tasted by pmk on 5/20/2023 & rated 92 points: consistent with earlier notes (3589 views) | | Tasted by brybts on 5/19/2023 & rated 91 points: Overall: this wine is singing right now
Appearance: medium-dark ruby, fairly opaque
Nose: fruit comes out first, but this is incredibly well integrated. After the dark fruit (blackberry), there is leather, tobacco, some spearmint, maybe a touch of cocoa, chalk.
Palate: tannins are medium and velvety, a touch bitter, with some menthol sensation. Acid is medium and adds good freshness. Fairly full bodied. Primary flavor profile is dark fruit - blackberry, blueberry - underpinned with a bit of earth and herbs. Not overly complex but nicely integrated making individual notes difficult to distinguish.
Finish: medium, mouthwatering from acidity, a touch bitter but not out of balance. A bit of green apple comes through on the finish. (3312 views) | | Tasted by vr.bart on 5/3/2023 & rated 92 points: This is performing at its peak now. Love it. (3491 views) | | Tasted by bobadopolis on 4/2/2023 & rated 93 points: Purchased on release for about 25-30 USD. At this point the QPR is ridiculous. Drink now with a bit of air or hold for several more years. Outstanding. (3436 views) | | Tasted by dalemosier on 2/4/2023 & rated 91 points: delightful nose, especially compared to Sullivan bordeaux blend. Let it breathe for 30 minutes. I changed my drink date to 2025 (3488 views) | | Tasted by P_Hansen on 1/28/2023 & rated 92 points: Smooth, friuity with a hint of oak and acidity - really nice. (3338 views) | | Tasted by pmk on 1/24/2023 & rated 92 points: "Elegant, with loads of black currant fruit, cherries and dusty, loamy soil notes as well as hints of tobacco leaf, spice box and cedar, it is a medium to full-bodied, nicely textured, fleshy wine" - as per parker.
Ready now drink up (3477 views) | | Tasted by Empirate on 1/16/2023 flawed bottle: Corked (2710 views) | | Tasted by signotim on 1/2/2023 & rated 91 points: Drinking very well now but no hurry on this. It held up beautifully on night 2 and maybe even improved a bit. I would guess 5 years of great drinking ahead? But could last longer… (3382 views) | | Tasted by texaswinelover on 12/30/2022: Loved this tonight. Shows that lesser wines in good vintages are worth every $$. Deliciously rich and ripe with resolved tannins. Didn’t falter for 2-3 hrs. Drank with grilled New York strip and lobster with garlic butter. Decadence and perfection. Glad I’ve got a few more. (2864 views) | | Tasted by Doc90 on 12/24/2022 & rated 91 points: Horse blanket, blackberries, and a hint of peppermint. Woody and seductive with a caressing texture. Has a long life ahead. (2768 views) | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
| Château Lilian Ladouys Producer website - Read more about Chateau Lilian LadouysRed Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest" 2019 vintage reports 2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage." 2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
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"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman "The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanMédoc Vins du Médoc (Conseil des Vins du Médoc) - Read More about the Medoc
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The eight precisely defined appellations of the whole of the Médoc (from Blanquefort Brook to the north of the Bordeaux built-up area, almost to the Pointe de Grave) may claim the Médoc appellation. But there is also a specific territory in the north of the peninsula which produces exclusively wines with this appellation. In the great majority, the Médocs come from the north of the peninsula. The great individuality of this region is that the number of vines has increased more recently here than elsewhere, apart from a few isolated spots where vines have grown for many years. Today, the size of the small estate has brought about the development of a powerful co-operative movement. Four co-operatives out of five belong to the group called Unimédoc which ensures aging, bottling and marketing a large proportion of their wines.St. Estèphe Read more about St. Estephe and its wines Whereas the first activity recorded in Saint-Estèphe goes back as far as the Middle Bronze Age, the first vines date from the Roman Occupation. But it was the Bordeaux merchants who by aging and selling Saint-Estèphe wines themselves were largely responsible for this appellation's fame. And in the nineteenth century, noted for its prosperity, the great estates of today were created. The movement continues today with the merging of small estates.
A land of great wines, Saint-Estèphe is situated almost in the centre of the Médoc, close to the Gironde Estuary. The appellation is equidistant from Bordeaux and the Pointe de Grave. The beds of soil are characterized by their remarkable diversity, the result of their undulating relief and excellent drainage. Quartz and well-rounded pebbles mingled with light, sandy surface soil are found everywhere, giving the wines a distinctive finesse. And the subsoil is made up of the famous Saint-Estèphe limestone, which outcrops on the west of the commune.
Tasting Thanks to ideal conditions of climate and geology, Saint-Estèphe wines are characterized by their sturdy qualities and robust constitution. Accordingly, they can be laid down for a very long time while yet preserving their youth and freshness. Distinguished by a subsoil which is more clayey than that in the other communal appellations which lie by the river, the wine here attains a distinctive individuality : a very rich tannic structure, a fine deep red colour and an exceptional backbone with aromas of great finesse. Production conditions (Decree dated September 11, 1936):
In order to have the right to the Saint-Estèphe appellation of controlled origin, red wines must: - come from the communes of Saint-Estèphe, "excluding any parcels in that area which are situated on recent alluvium and sand on impermeable subsoils", - satisfy precise production conditions : grape-varieties (Cabernet-Sauvignon, Cabernet-Franc, Carmenère, Merlot Noir, Petit Verdot, Cot or Malbec), minimum of sugar (178 grammes - 6.27 oz. - per litre of must) degree (an acquired 10°5) base yield (45 hectolitres per hectare). |
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