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 Vintage2008 Label 20 of 40 
(NOTE: Label borrowed from 2009 vintage.)
TypeRed
ProducerClos des Papes (web)
VarietyRed Rhone Blend
Designationn/a
Vineyardn/a
CountryFrance
RegionRhône
SubRegionSouthern Rhône
AppellationChâteauneuf-du-Pape
UPC Code(s)3760043540082

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2012 and 2023 (based on 19 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Clos des Papes Chateauneuf du Pape on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 91.2 pts. and median of 92 pts. in 92 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy on 5/10/2015 & rated 92 points: Decanted for one hour and drank over the next four. Crowd pleaser. (687 views)
 Tasted by wineduggery on 4/24/2015 & rated 92 points: Red fruits with white pepper and cloves. Well-balanced, but a bit simple for this price point. 14% abv. (867 views)
 Tasted by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy on 4/20/2015 & rated 92 points: Popped and poured - not a good idea, as this thing is closed. Started to open up two hours after opening - getting good! (1017 views)
 Tasted by Ahughes444 on 3/29/2015 & rated 91 points: Medium to full bodied; ruby brown color; translucent; brown core with light rim.

Good legs on swirl;

Aromas of soil, clay, sandlewood, strawberry, cherry, brown sugar.

Flavors of strawberry, soil, rose pedal, and spice. (1452 views)
 Tasted by MPAN on 3/11/2015 & rated 90 points: Medium red; spice box, "Christmas", fresh strawberries; fresh attack, lots of spices (I find this typical for CdP 2008), cloves, nice depth, good structure, lean and straight with body; very agreeable without being complex or anything "special", just straightforward and nice (1431 views)
 Tasted by stefad on 2/22/2015 & rated 92 points: Bue en 2 temps : compte rendu après décantation de 6 heures, grandement bénéfique. Cuvée approchable dès aujourd'hui, nez sur cerise, menthol, tanins imperceptibles, belle bouche suave et fraîche, finale riche et sucrée - 92/100 (1414 views)
 Tasted by EricLi on 2/14/2015 & rated 91 points: decate 2 hours before serving. Dark ruby, peppery and fully-bodied. Classical and delicate. Good with steak. Even better with pasta dishes. (1160 views)
 Tasted by trailsidedrive on 1/24/2015 & rated 93 points: CarneVino - Vegas: Aromas of white pepper and dark fruit. Nice acidity - black tea, crushed cherry, black currant. A very long, silky finish. (1424 views)
 Tasted by Arch57 on 12/29/2014 & rated 93 points: I think CdP wines are becoming my new favorite as it seems I never really get a bad bottle of CdP regardless of producer or vintage. My other favorites like Brunello can suffer from sour bottles, Bordeaux can have weak, flabby bottles, Napa Cabs can be too oaky or vegatal but CdP seems to be consistent in delivering a pleasurable experience.

I last had the 2008 as it was just released at then end of a 2004-07 vertical tasting with an informal wine group. It was a pop'n pour at that time and suffered in comparison to the other 4 vintages, which had some age and had all been decanted but I did rate it a solid 90. So it was a pleasant surprise to visit this 3 years later and it developed nice complexities on the nose of Asian spices, barnyard, dried fruit. Poured into a decanter but we started drinking this before, during and after dinner (fish sauteed in peppers, olives and onions) and it was pretty darn consistent, gaining some nuances on the palate after an hour or so. A solid 93 point effort in my book. (1565 views)
 Tasted by rossi.wine on 11/17/2014 & rated 92 points: Good structure, much less weight and sweetness compared to the 2009, more elegant, but also less complex, concentrated and long. Nicely evolved, fresh, good fruit. Very good finish. 91-93 (2083 views)
 Tasted by Herschel Krustofski on 11/17/2014 & rated 91 points: [J&B Rhone tasting] It was already accessible this time last year although I wasn't impressed back then. Now, agree with Rossi: It has evolved and beginning to build some character, though admittedly, still pales in comparisons with the 2009 and the 2011 tasted this evening. For a 2008 this is very good indeed. (2213 views)
 Tasted by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy on 11/9/2014 & rated 92 points: Popped and decanted, and promptly drank over the next three hours. Always good value for the money. Too bad these are going up in price. (1967 views)
 Tasted by lvjohn on 11/4/2014 & rated 91 points: No notes. (1896 views)
 Tasted by kidsmurf2000 on 10/3/2014 & rated 91 points: seems to be loosing some intensity, and those classis cdp flavors... Gas sone nice evolution, but I prefer it younger (1982 views)
 Tasted by Cote d'Or on 10/2/2014: Decanted, tasted over 3 hrs
-mostly opaque dark red with slight purple
-somewhat closed, plum, pepper, dark toned
-med acidity, med- weight, tightly wound darkish fruits, bitter component carries through to finish, moderately elegant without tremendous depth
-stylistically Clos des Papes, darker fruit profile than some other '08s, quite closed down right now, needs time (1621 views)
 Tasted by ruth3 on 9/28/2014 & rated 92 points: Zesty, black cherries, red fruit. earthy smoky core- drinking beautifully. bit raisiny now. (1601 views)
 Tasted by Castle Peak on 8/26/2014 & rated 92 points: Nicely balanced, rich and loaded with layers of fruit and spice. Elegant (2112 views)
 Tasted by Rezy13 on 8/22/2014: See through darker core with garnet rim; dusty Grenache, baby Aspirin, raspberry, tart, bitter, red and dark fruit compote, white pepper, stony; raspberry on the palate, white pepper, softer texture, Grenache tannin; very tasty for the vintage, already drinking well. (1060 views)
 Tasted by valedeniro on 8/14/2014 & rated 93 points: Beautiful Wine....Almost Burgundian in style.Interesting nose,lavender,black cherries,fresh figs,black berries,plum,graphite,spices.Medium bodied with good structure,elegant,good depth and balance,great freshness.Nice to drink for 10-15 years. (2078 views)
 Tasted by Jeff Leve on 8/7/2014 & rated 90 points: Earthy, smoky, red plums, medium bodied, lighter style of Clos des Papes with a focus on freshness, elegance, bright red fruits and spice. Drink this Burgundian styled wine on the young side. If you are thinking Parker is off his game on all the high scoring years, due to too much alcohol and fruit, you will like this wine a lot. (2318 views)
 Tasted by fingers on 6/25/2014 & rated 93 points: Notes after bottle had been open for 12 hours. Bright ruby color with a notch of garnet, about 60% opaque with clear, quick legs and moderate sediment present
Profound redcurrant, blue plum, intense clove, jasmine, and a little bretty funk that gives way to dirt and sweet tobacco over time. Flavors are rich and deep, but the palate is deft and agile with acidity. Tannins are perfectly soft and there is a little heat on the tail end. Finish is dry with long persistence. Certainly not in any coma and fully approachable. Structured to drink well for several more years.
I've never really been stung by the Chateauneuf bug, but this certainly scratches an itch that Beaucastel doesn't. I gotta say that the Dacalier De La Terre (made in Napa by one of our Cellartracker friends) at $20+/- , gives me all the same pleasure that this $60-$70 Rhone giant does. Okay, maybe not as complex or nuanced as this, but it's close enough for any value-conscious palate. 5+13+17+8 = 93 (2492 views)
 Tasted by lvjohn on 6/14/2014 & rated 95 points: Decanted and let breath for about an hour(no solids to discard). Immediately struck by the rich and complex nose of dark cherries, plums, caramel, and a hint of spice. Tastes fantastically rich and pure. Red fruits with a hint of fresh mushrooms that just seems to change ever so slightly with every sip. Probably drinking at or near its peak right now. (2188 views)
 Tasted by ccn on 5/11/2014 & rated 89 points: Rich, masculine wine - slightly hot. Good for what it is but not a style of wine I like. (2265 views)
 Tasted by Dnathanson on 3/16/2014 & rated 97 points: Wow- drank from a magnum. Decanted for 90-minutes. One of the best CDP's I've ever had...well balanced, silky smooth tannins, smell of burnt earth, taste of a perfectly cooked rib eye. Drinking perfectly now. (2776 views)
 Tasted by RickyT12 on 3/9/2014 & rated 92 points: Decanted for an hour
Nice nose raspberry jam, little gamey on the nose, little white pepper. Good raspberry flavor, a bit of boysenberry flavor. Tasty stuff. Long finish, medium acid. medium tannins, good medium mouth feel. Medium high acid. (2894 views)
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By Jeb Dunnuck
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CellarTracker Wiki Articles (login to edit | view all articles)

Clos des Papes

Producer website - Read more about Clos des Papes

Red Rhone Blend

Read about the different grapes used to produce red and white Rhone wines
On CellarTracker, Red Rhone Blend is the term for a wine consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.


A 'food' wine. Lacking pretension and intended for local consumption with local cuisine. Lacks the 'high' notes on a Bordeaux, more earthy and sharper so often a better partner to meat dishes with a sauce.

France

Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)

Rhône

Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)

Southern Rhône

Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Southern Rhone Valley

RP APPRAISAL OF SOUTHERN RHONE VINTAGES:
WA: 2011 88R / 2010 98T / 2009 93E/ 2008 86R / 2007 98E / 2006 92R / 2005 95T / 2004 88R / 2003 90I / 2002 58C / 2001 96T / 2000 98E

### 2005 ###
In southern Rhone, 2005 was a below average sized crop, because of continuing drought and the fact that there are so many old vineyards where low yields are the rule of thumb even in an abundant year. While 2005 is truly an excellent vintage in the south, I do not believe it is a compellingly great vintage, because it has more in common with beefed up, improved version of 1995 than with what I consider an irrefutably great vintage like 1998, 2001 or even 2000. Certainly the wines have plenty of structure and possess fresher, more vibrant acidities than most years provide. The top wines also display impressive levels of concentration. However all the 2005s tend to reveal a certain firmness, and if the grapes were picked too soon, or the vinification/upbringing were not carefully handled, there is a toughness and austerity to the tannins that ultimately will prove to be problematic. Nevertheless, there is an ocean of top wines.


### 2007 ###
The 2007 vintage in Southern France was wonderful. Here is what controversial Robert M. Parker (Wine Advocate Issue 179) said about it, “Throughout the southern Rhône, 2007 is the greatest vintage I have tasted in my thirty years working in that region. I think of 2007 as a hypothetical blend of an opulent, powerful, sumptuous year such as 1990, and a cooler draught vintage such as 2001. The cool weather and the remarkable three weeks of Mistral in September that concentrated the grapes without any spikes of high heat appears to have given the 2007s an aromatic dimension and freshness that I have rarely witnessed. Combine that with wines that are substantial, powerful, and relatively high in alcohol, with super depth of fruit! These are very aromatic wines of great concentration, freshness, laser-like focus, and amazing purity as well as depth. It is the vintage of my lifetime for this region, and I don’t say that lightly.”

### 2010 ###
Robert Parker, on the 2010 vintage:
"Some producers think 2010 eclipses 2007 because of the wines' vivid freshness and focus. Throughout the southern Rhône, the hallmarks of the vintage are very dense purple, sometimes even blue/black colors as well as higher acid levels that have not been seen since 2004 and 2001. In fact, 2010's paradox is that I can't remember a vintage so concentrated, powerful and rich that also has such zesty acidity. The 2010s will have significant aging potential, which is obvious in the level of tannins, but the tannins are sweet with exceptional elegance and finesse. The ratio of high extractive and phenolic skins to the juice has produced wines of extraordinary intensity, freshness, aromatic potential and obvious longevity. This is another great vintage that offers an embarrassment of riches for this region that has enjoyed a succession of extraordinary years."

### 2011 ###
- "has most Rhône vintners exceedingly optimistic for a third straight outstanding year…" -Wine Spectator
- "fans of fruit-forward, accessible wines will find plenty to like from '11, which looks to be an ideal candidate for restaurants as well as for wine lovers…" -Stephen Tanzer
- “we have got 2011 which is a combination of these two great vintages." -Michel Chapoutier on how 2011 is a combination of the 2009 and 2010 vintage
- The 2011 Southern Rhone Region was Rated 89-92 by Wine Spectator's Vintage Chart!

(By Wine Spectator
2011 Vintage Report: France
A first look at vintage quality in French wine regions, with eyewitness reports from growers and winemakers
Posted: November 14, 2011
Rhône Valley
The 2011 harvest has most Rhône vintners exceedingly optimistic for a third straight outstanding year, though a handful rued some late rains and heat that blemished what could have been a perfect growing season.

By Stephen Tanzer's International Wine Cellar
2011 and 2010 Southern Rhone Wines
By Josh Raynolds
Jan/Feb 2013
"...fans of fruit-forward, accessible wines will find plenty to like from '11, which looks to be an ideal candidate for restaurants as well as for wine lovers who lack the facilities or patience for long-term storage.
Fans of graceful, fruit-driven Rhone wines will find plenty to like from 2011 and, as was the case in 2008, 2006 and 2004…"

By vitabella.fr
Michel Chapoutier on 2011 in Rhone Valley: A detailed Early Report
26 Octobre 2011
The tastings of the 2011 vintage have recently given an opportunity for Michel Chapoutier to give his first impressions of the quality of this vintage for the appellations of the Rhone Valley. Prior to the presentation of each appellation, he noted that "after a warm and sunny 2009 vintage that resulted in the exuberance of grape varieties, 2010 was a fresher year with slow maturities which generally gave tense wines - to those who were able to wait for the phenolic maturity - some mineral wines, elegant with an outward expression of the soil, we have got 2011 which is a combination of these two great vintages. "
"This 2011 harvest in Rhone Valley was both early and late: a real paradox!"

By Wine Spectator’s Vintage Chart
Southern Rhone
Vintage: 2011
Score: 89-92
Drink Rec: NYR
Description: Warm spring, but cool, wet weather in July and August led to uneven ripening; Indian summer saved the vintage. Grenache is light, but Syrah and Mourvèdre strong, so blending key; there will be some excellent wines, but heterogenous from domaine to domaine.)

Châteauneuf-du-Pape

Châteauneuf-du-Pape Appellation - Read more about Chateauneuf du Pape

Another site on this appellation
Vineyards on weinlagen-info

"As I have written many times in the past, the sweet spot for drinking Châteauneuf du Papes is usually the first 5-6 years after the vintage. Then they seem to go through an adolescent, awkward, and sometimes dormant stage, only to re-emerge around year 10-12, where the majority of wines are often fully mature. The best of them will continue to hold on to life (but rarely improving) beyond 15-20 years. It is only the exceptional Châteauneuf du Papes that will evolve for 20-25+ years, and those are indeed a rarity. However, things may be improving dramatically in terms of the longevity of Châteauneuf du Pape, although Grenache-dominated wines, the vast majority of wines produced in the appellation, are wines that do not have the polyphenol (extract and tannin) content of top Cabernet Sauvignons, Merlots, or Syrah-based wines. Nevertheless, the younger generation in Châteauneuf du Pape has taken seriously the farming in the vineyards. There are more organic and biodynamically run vineyards here than in any other appellation of France. The yields, which were already low, are even lower today (20-35 hectoliters per hectare), and of course, the proliferation of top luxury and/or old-vine cuvées gives a significant boost to the number of wines that will evolve past 25 or 30 years. The advantage of these wines is their broad window of drinkability." ( Robert Parker )

 
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