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| Community Tasting Notes (average 93.8 pts. and median of 94 pts. in 332 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by Caruso on 4/6/2024 & rated 97 points: German pink to the edge with no sign of aging. Pnp. Quite ready from the start, needs just a little bit time in the glas or opened bottle to reveal a more powerful nose and palate. A mix of black, red and blue fruits with forest floor, pencil shavings, cedar. On the palate first light, but gaining power within 30 minutes with round but present tannins. Intense, complex and a joy to drink. I don't know, what is here to criticize. Today it is a civilized nuanced elegant, yet powerful bordeaux with at least a decade ahead if perfectly stored since release. 5/13/19/10. (587 views) | | | Tasted by Decanting Queen on 4/2/2024 & rated 92 points: Purchased awhile ago and saved for my daughter’s 21st. She has a bum birth year but I did some research and this was one of the better performing 03’s, supposedly.
In reality, I was disappointed although enjoyed the lovely experience of drinking it with her. The nose was sweet fruit and similar on the palate, but the alcohol was just too much for me and ruined all the other good things about this wine.
Fortunately, she enjoyed it and appreciated the effort.
Much preferred the ‘03 La mission and the ‘03 Abreu Thorvelios. So there are some decent ‘03s to be found. But for the price, I would not purchase another ‘03 Pavie!! (1203 views) | | | Tasted by EyeDoc on 1/5/2024 & rated 92 points: Nose is a bit dead - decent dark fruits and nice full finish with tannin that lingers. A bit jammy. Just missing something. Either an off bottle or just fading. (1973 views) | | | Tasted by redknife on 1/1/2024 & rated 94 points: Brief decant and off to smith and wollensky for early Sunday dinner.
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Wine was delicious, balanced in a very good spot
Great pairing with Cajun ribeye (1737 views) | | | Tasted by simonchope on 12/29/2023: plums with more plums (1665 views) | | | Tasted by soyhead on 12/16/2023: nose - mint
mouth - massive fruit, very full, with good vibrancy. this wine was more of a beast in its youth. today its a full fruited right bank Bordeaux with more fruit then complexity. Loads of life left. Hold. (1849 views) | | | Tasted by Purple Tooth on 10/14/2023 & rated 95 points: Another generous bottle of 2003 Pavie, showing ripe black and red plums, black raspberry, and lots of warm coziness in the form of mature barrel spice ushers the long, plummy finish. A tad bit alcoholic on the nose when compared to the other 03 on the table, giving a cool sensation of menthol. This is another bottle confirming that this is at the very top of its game for my taste. Dont wait too long. Drink (2937 views) | | | Tasted by bon vivant on 7/19/2023 & rated 95 points: had this SBS with a 2005 The. 2003 from a warmer vintage was more approachable this evening as it showed a nice broad flavor spectrum and was easy going and tasty. No heat, no stewed fruit just a classic well made St Emilion at a great place. (2552 views) | | | Tasted by Purple Tooth on 6/24/2023 & rated 95 points: Impressive for an 03, and even more impressive for an 03 from the heavy hand of Pavie. This wine was clearly made in the confused year of Bordeaux, the 03 vintage. I thought that this bottle showed the disciplined style of the winemaker better than many other wines from 03, even from the left bank. It also showed the accelerated aging that many 03's have shown. Its deep, plummy, cedar laden, and starting to develop some notes of barrel spice/asian spice in the background, telling me that this is really at peak maturity for my taste. A long, caressing finish that loses the balance that the palate brought, with a touch of that spice faintly lingering, showing slight fatigue. I think that this is just at the top of its game, but the nose is starting to point down. Drink over next decade for sure. (3126 views) | | | Tasted by devraj on 4/22/2023 & rated 95 points: A very youthful dark purple in color with lightening around the rim. Soaring aromas of cassis and dark plum jam, violets, hint of truffle, and mocha. A rich, plump & layered palate follows through with cassis/blackberry preserves, mocha, minerals, medium (-) acidity, hint of tannins peaking through and a long, palate saturating finish. A massive, modern and opulent 2003 right bank but aging glacially. (3319 views) | | | Tasted by AWBryce on 4/12/2023: Lovely, right bank sweet fruit on the nose, some forest floor, well resolved and silky, v long finish. Another impressive 03 (3119 views) | | | Tasted by dream on 3/2/2023 & rated 80 points: This was easily the outlier wine in the 2003 Bordeaux tasting although up against mostly left bank wines. I was trying to give it the benefit of the doubt but it was slightly roasted with jammy fruit and in the end somewhat sickening and tiring on the palate. Not surprising given the style of winemaking here at the time which was to pick very late at high ripeness and alcohol levels so they had virtually no shot in this super-hot vintage. 80- (3186 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 2/14/2023 & rated 95 points: Drinking in its sweet spot, with its blend of crushed rocks, salt, dark red fruits, flowers, wet earth, and bushels of red and black blue fruits, the wine is rich, full-bodied, lush, but not hot, jammy, or out of balance. Popped and poured, this is simply delicious from start to finish. Drink from 2023-2035. (3366 views) | | | Tasted by MAXIMUM SATISFACTION on 2/4/2023 & rated 93 points: Drank blind. Again I guessed Tuscan Cabernet. Very dense and heavy with thick grainy tannins. Milk chocolate, blue/blackberry, anise, vanilla, tobacco…. Very Napa like extraction. Probably in the prime drinking window now. (2601 views) | | | Tasted by Cow Town on 1/27/2023 & rated 94 points: BYO at R'Evolution in New Orleans. Great wine with a great meal. Even at 20 years old, this still seemed young (dark color, no bricking, good tannins out of the gate). Seems like it has a long life ahead. (2230 views) | | | Tasted by ilee on 1/12/2023 & rated 95 points: Dinner with RC & friends at China Tang (China Tang, Hong Kong): I remember the fuss over the release of this wine back in the day, when a famous American wine critic declared it perfect, and a British critic disagreed. I never had the chance to drink it until now. Well, so who was right?
First off, this was served blind, and my guess was off by miles. Medium light ruby in color, a little cloudy, with even some bricking on the rim. Distinct floral notes on the bouquet, with minerals, leather, ash. Medium bodied on the plate, the fruit and tannins are beautifully resolved into mellowed, rounded layers that unfurl into a gentle velvety finish. So mature and evolved it was, I thought it might be late 80's, Margaux region maybe? It was thus a mild and pleasant shock to see what it was.
Perhaps ours was not your average bottle, but I'm sure this is not how good old RP saw this wine unfolding 20 years later! (2149 views) | | | Tasted by benny on 12/31/2022 & rated 95 points: Popped and poured. Very elegant wine. Sorry my last bottle. (1952 views) | | | Tasted by SCM Fan on 11/18/2022 & rated 90 points: No decanting, poured with some Holy Grail Upper Prime Picanha steaks. The excellent beefiness on these steaks compliment the aged Pavie through first two glasses wife and I shared. Unfortunately, the wine did get tired quick, which was disappointing to us. Lovely mature BDX wine though I fear the first few years this wine was stored at an indiscriminate off site storage where temperatures were in the 70's. This probably did this wine no favors. Cork was excellent. Just wine felt "tired". (2148 views) | | | Tasted by AdinG on 9/9/2022 & rated 94 points: Tasting well. Still tight . Velvety flavor with nice pepperary secondary tones. Think it can still cellar for 10+ years. (2638 views) | | | Tasted by napasoutherner on 9/3/2022 & rated 94 points: Beautiful wine . Lots of depth, currant, cigar box flavors. Long fonish (2587 views) | | | Tasted by wineappellation on 7/16/2022 & rated 94 points: 13.5%abv. Tasted blind. Intense with evolving complexities. Unmistakenly a high quality Right Bank, rich yet precise and elegant no sign of overripe fruits. Well absorbed oak. Arrays of black and red fruits, some graphite, wet earth, sweet spices and toast. With more air and swirling some leather and coffee notes. (3182 views) | | | Tasted by soyhead on 7/8/2022: 2 separate bottles made it to the table (impressive coincidence), and it was very interesting to assess the bottle variation. The wine bought on release was fresher that that most recently acquired at auction. Both mainly showed gobs of fruit with the telltale Pavie coffee signature. My palate has change over the past fifteen years, and while I was less bowled over than I might have been, I still find this to be a sexy Bordeaux. (3126 views) | | | Tasted by snaff on 6/13/2022 & rated 94 points: Fresh herbs and dark berry notes on the nose. A massive powerful wine presenting tobacco and tar with rich dark fruits, green pepper and a stiff set of tannins that linger. Delicious and great with food after an hour or so of air but still quite tight and not fully integrated. Give it a few years. (2899 views) | | | Tasted by dbg on 5/10/2022: Cellared since release, perfect cork and fill. Dark red/purple to rim. Cassis, plum, prunes/raisiny notes. Full bodied, jammy, over-ripe. The 3 years since I opened the prior bottle have not been kind to this wine. Enjoyable as a Napa-esque cocktail wine, it’s now teetering on the brink of flabbiness, but for the substantial tannins holding it up. Not sorry I don’t have any more. (2642 views) | | | Tasted by AjitK on 3/4/2022 & rated 95 points: This was a terrific bottle of wine. First and foremost, it is in a really good place right now (March 2022). Plenty of primary (deep, rich black and blue concentrated, ripe fruit), secondary (delightful bitter herbaceous notes like organo and marjoram), and some tertiary notes (emerging after 3 hours of decant with musky forest floor and leather). The nose was just WOW / Intense and rich. what stood out even more than the gorgeous bouquet was the mouthfeel - unctuous full, thick body. To me, this was a delightful wine and the Wine of the night (with other heavy hitters like 2001 Yalumba Octavius and 2009 Duhart Milon to compete with). I didn’t start of in a Parker or Robinson Court before enjoying this wine, but am squarely in the RP/WS (JS reviewed) perspective of this being a terrific wine, worthy of the flagship effort by a cherished st. Emilion winery. I can’t believe JR would give this a 12/20. That’s just nonsensical. Now, at $400 it’s not a value wine by any stretch but a very strong, elite offering. The tanin levels indicate another 10 years ahead of it, easily. (3254 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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Vinous, A Century of Bordeaux: The Threes (Aug 2023) (8/1/2023)
(Pavie Pavie Red) Subscribe to see review text. | By James Suckling
JamesSuckling.com (3/29/2018)
(Château Pavie St.-Emilion, Red, France) Subscribe to see review text. | By Julia Harding, MW
JancisRobinson.com (3/21/2013)
(Ch Pavie St-Émilion Red) Subscribe to see review text. | By Chris Kissack
Winedoctor, March 2013 (3/1/2013)
(Château Pavie St Emilion Red) Subscribe to see review text. | The World of Fine Wine, December 2007, Issue #18
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Vinous, May/June 2005, IWC Issue #120
(Chateau Pavie Saint Emilion) Subscribe to see review text. | By Jancis Robinson, MW
JancisRobinson.com (4/7/2005)
(Ch Pavie St-Émilion Red) Subscribe to see review text. | By Stephen Tanzer
Vinous, May/June 2004, IWC Issue #114
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The vineyard on weinlagen-infoRed Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)
History of Bordeaux
History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification
"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanLibournais Libournais (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux) - Read more about St. Emilion and its wines - Read more about Pomerol and its wines
Saint Emilion Grat Classified Growth, Classified Growths, Grands Crus Classes, GCC
In 1954, while the "Graves" growths had just published their own classification, the wine syndicate of Saint-Emilion, composed by wine growers, brokers and wine traders with the approval of the INAO - Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (A.O.C), decided to work on a classification for the wines of Saint Emilion. Initially, four grades were defined. These were reduced to two - First Great Classified Growth (A and B) and Great Classified Growth - in 1984.
As of Medoc's 1855 historical grading, the Saint-Emilion Great Classified Growth classification is not only based on qualitative criteria by tasting the wines on a ten years period previous to the assessment, but also on commercial considerations such as:
- sales price levels
- national and international commercial distribution
- the estate's reputation on the market
Properties who don't manage to join the club of about sixty Classified Growths are given the denomination of Great Growth ("Grand Cru"), while the remaining wineries of the A.O.C are simply reported as "Saint-Emilion". It is to be noted that the owners must officially apply to appear in the official classification. Thus for example the famous Chateau Tertre-Roteboeuf, whose quality and reputation would easily justify to be listed among the First Great Classified Growths, does not appear here by the will of its owner, François Mitjaville.
The Saint-Emilion Great Growth classification was revised in 1969, 1985, 1996 and 2006. The only two guaranteed vintage (A.O.C) who can apply to the classification are the "Saint-Emilion Grand Cru" and "Saint-Emilion" areas.
By grading 61 properties, the 2006 revision confirmed many growths from the former classification, but also caused a number of surprises and a few inevitable disappointments. Many observers thought that the impressive progression of Perse's Chateau Pavie since 1998 would be rewarded by an upgrade into the First Great Classified Growths (A) category, but finally such was not the case.
Among the estates promoted to the First Great Classified Growths B category are Chateau Troplong-Mondot and Pavie-Macquin, whose efforts made since the Nineties fully justify their new grade. It should be noted that no First Great Classified Growth was relegated to the lower Great Classified Growth class.
Promoted growths from the status of Great Growth ("Grand Cru") to Great Classified Growth ("Grand Cru Classe") are: Chateaux Bellefont-Belcier, Destieux, Fleur Cardinale, Grand Corbin, Grand Corbin-Despagne and Monbousquet.
The demoted growths from the status of Great Classified Growth to Great Growth are: Chateaux Bellevue, Cadet Bon, Faurie de Souchard, Guadet Saint-Julien, La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Belivier), La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Moueix), Lamarzelle, Petite Faurie de Soutard, Tertre Daugay, Villemaurine and Yon-Figeac. If the recent samples of some of the above mentioned properties may justify their current downgrade, there are great chances that estates like Bellevue, Tertre Daugay or Yon-Figeac will be upgraded to their previous rankings by the next revision in 2016 as the progresses noted after 2000, but not entering in the range of vintages (1993 - 2002) appointed for the criteria of selection for the 2006 classification, are noticable.
The two following estates have completely disappeared from the Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classification: Curé-Bon-la-Madeleine (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Canon) and La Clusière (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Pavie).
Finally, no estate considered as "garagiste" has integrated the classification. Valandraud, Mondotte, Le Dome, Bellevue-Mondotte or Magrez-Fombrauge have, for the least, the potential to be ranked as Great Classified Growths. In sight of the very fine quality reached by the above mentioned estates in recent vintages as well as all the innovative wine making methods used by the "garagistes", it remains to be seen whether the authorities will dare to cross the line in 2016..?St. Émilion Grand Cru Les Vins de St. Émilion (Syndicate Vitocole de Saint-Emilion) – Read about St. Emilion
Vins de Bordeaux:
Grape Varieties: Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot
Soil: Sandy soils with alluvial gravel deposits
Surface Area: 4,160 ha |
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