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| ||Tasted by EricLi on 5/24/2015 & rated 88 points: Still too young. (1407 views)|
| ||Tasted by WallNib on 5/18/2015 & rated 93 points: Great right out of the gate; quite expressive and lots of range and length. It shut down hard after about two hours in the decanter. Might be wise to hold (or suck it down). 92+ (2218 views)|
| ||Tasted by JonnyG on 4/28/2015 & rated 93 points: A delicious, inviting wine, bursting with layers of flavor: deep, red fruit; pepper; forest floor; some floral notes; and lush tannins. That said, I cannot see scoring this in the mid-high 90's as some have done, not for my tastes, which makes this an interest wine with which to calibrate palates. Did seem to close down a bit after 90 minutes or so. (3717 views)|
| ||Tasted by jaumealaska on 3/8/2015 & rated 92 points: Opened the second bottle a year after my first and similar notes. Kirsch and garrigue to the nose, well integrated tannins and acid for balance--good finish. Drinking very well now. Has more body than the 2009, much better balance and integration than the 2012. (4967 views)|
| ||Tasted by Cgallivan on 2/9/2015 & rated 95 points: Was excited to try and it didn't disappoint! I decanted for 3.5 hours and it paired wonderfully with cilantro maple pork tenderloin. |
Typical CDP fruit with a little bit of tar. Long graceful finish! Going to hold the next bottle for another 5-8 years minimum. (5450 views)
| ||Tasted by austinbeeman on 1/7/2015 & rated 98 points: One of the best Young Chateaneufs I've ever tasted!|
This has all of the amazingly sexy fruit of the 2009, but elevates to another level with strong serious framing tannins. Red fruits dominate with serious purity and black fruits slide in to add complexity. This is a beautiful long-lasting C9.
$89.99 OH retail
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| ||Tasted by Golfpixel on 12/27/2014 & rated 79 points: Spivey not amooth (4920 views)|
| ||Tasted by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy on 12/24/2014 & rated 91 points: Decanted for nearly four hours before drinking. Translucent dark purple in color. Musky scent at opening, but this blew off with time. Also sour and spicy at opening, but the sourness subdued with time, leaving only the spiciness. Woody scent. Black pepper on the palate overpowering all other flavors, with an aftertaste of capsum. Seems very closed and made to last for quite some time. This was surprising, as every other 2010 CNDP I have had thus far has been very approachable. Best I not open the remaining bottle for at least 5 years. Will try this again tomorrow. (4695 views)|
| ||Tasted by iar on 11/28/2014 & rated 96 points: Better than I would have imagined. Great taste, perfect balance. I loved it! I wish that I purchased more than 2 bottles. (4851 views)|
| ||Tasted by EricLi on 11/26/2014: Still closed. The only improvement from 6 months ago is that strong fruit aroma starts to show after 1 hour decante, but it is still full of alcohol. 3 more hours in my glass and it gets a little more balanced. Not a bad bottle, it is just not a good drink window. (4269 views)|
| ||Tasted by wgmccallum on 11/19/2014 & rated 95 points: From memory last night. Intense complex nose of flowers, fruit and spices. Deep penetrating pure fruit on the palate with a nice acid frame, long fruit driven finish with floral notes resurfacing. 55+14+18+8. (4520 views)|
| ||Tasted by brown57 on 11/15/2014: Completely agree with ERICLI's comments below. This CDP was tight and closed for business even after a 3 hour decant. Surprising how little it is offering up this time. Should have known better but fortunately this was only a 375 ml bottle. Will forget about the others in my cellar and check back in a few years on this one. NR. (3995 views)|
| ||Tasted by Knfkwan on 10/20/2014: Dark color, typical CDP with bubble gum nose, full of cherry and sweet fruit. However, it is still too young where all the goodies not smooth out and well blended. Still feel the structure on palate but keep evolving for the 2 hours. I should keep the other 2 bottles not open until 2020. (4849 views)|
| ||Tasted by EricLi on 6/15/2014 & rated 90 points: Way too young to drink now. Glass decante an hour before it is even drinkable. A little earthy with smoke and spice. Structure is there, but it needs patience. (7800 views)|
| ||Tasted by richshoes on 4/12/2014 & rated 92 points: still a little young, but typical great Chateauneuf du Pape, layers of terror, smokiness, and spice (8587 views)|
| ||Tasted by d'Artagnan on 3/7/2014 & rated 94 points: Bu sur deux jours, le premier jour:|
Un nez qui sent les feuilles de laurier, la garrigue et la réglisse, avec aussi une fraicheur bien perceptible…même au nez!
La bouche impressionne par sa force tranquille. Une fraicheur typique (2010), une concentration et une opulence qui n’empêchent pas une certaine élégance, mais il est discret et fermé, il parait dur. De solides tanins montent la garde, emprisonnant les arômes. À revoir dans 5 à 8 ans!
Le lendemain: il est impressionnant! Bien ouvert, le tanins sont ronds et aimable. Réglissé, velouté, ample et rempli de belles promesses. Il vaut la peine de l'attendre. 94+ pts (9331 views)
| ||Tasted by Frijole on 2/15/2014: no tasting note (9374 views)|
| ||Tasted by jaumealaska on 2/14/2014 & rated 93 points: nice nose of spice and garriques, good round fruit and tannins have smoothed out, nice long finish. Had after a 2007 Guigal CndP and had a lot more going for it. Good drinking now and probably will do as well or better for another 5 plus years, maybe longer. But it was not too early to open it. (8596 views)|
| ||Tasted by Paco55 on 2/10/2014 & rated 96 points: Licorice, cherry and black fruit. Sweetness and power combine to make a superb CDP. True depth of flavour with wonderful balance makes this one top shelf wine to savour. I could wax lyrical for a long time on this but I will just sum up by saying that it is drinking beautifully now before the typical shutdown period hits and will come out the other side as a classic, complex amazing CDP - a must buy. (7186 views)|
| ||Tasted by Hawtdawg on 1/21/2014 & rated 93 points: Same notes from 01/14/14 (6928 views)|
| ||Tasted by Uncle John on 1/18/2014 & rated 95 points: I wanted to try one of these to see if I should buy a case as I did with 2007. So lets find out.|
Opened at 11.30 am to consume tonight . Initial impressions are amazing nose of sweet fruit and light spice. Bright amber color that is transparent when swirled with nice legs. Medium body with smooth mouth sweet fruit and not to heavy. Moderate balanced acidity with fine tannins that are hiding behind the fruit. The finish is balanced and so smooth it goes on and on.
Dinner at 7.30 pm. The wine opened up and became slightly more complex but the profile remained the same. Amazing young CDP that is drinking as well if not better young than the 2007. I can't believe how fine the tannins are and how great this shows at this point. Balanced and Beautiful. Going to buy a case soon. (6083 views)
| ||Tasted by BordeauxBuff on 1/2/2014 & rated 92 points: Tempted to sample this wine, I opened a bottle, but it was clearly way too early. This wine is at least 5 years away from being accessible. |
Massive tannins that fall in line with most CDP's from this vintage, there was a distinct barnyard smell and taste on the mid palate, which followed the wine throughout. Very traditional, old school CDP. Not my preferred style, but I believe this wine should be left down to rest so that it can further develop. (6012 views)
| ||Tasted by Jeff Leve on 1/2/2014 & rated 93 points: With ripe, juicy, red plum, black raspberry, pepper, earth and green olive notes, this full bodied, concentrated, beefy Southern Rhone has a lot to offer. With time, when the tannins soften and the wine evolves, this should offer a much better tasting experience. (6398 views)|
| ||Tasted by drwine2001 on 12/22/2013: Southern Rhone and Thereabouts (SF Wine Trading Company): Light red, paler rim. For its color, it packs surprising punch and weight. Backward but lush feel, brown spice, bark, rising tannins and a good dose of licorice toward the end. A very classic, restrained Vieux Telegraphe that needs plenty of time. (6108 views)|
| ||Tasted by joshwoodward on 12/20/2013 & rated 92 points: Fresh red fruit nose, medium body, slightly on the sweet side, medium structure. Quite primary still. Talc. (5438 views)|
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|By Josh Raynolds|
Vinous, January/February 2013, IWC Issue #166
(Domaine du Vieux Telegraphe Chateauneuf-du-Pape La Crau) Subscribe to see review text.
|By Jeb Dunnuck|
The Rhone Report, Issue #13 (10/1/2012)
(Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape La Crau Red) Login and sign up and see review text. 96+ points
|By Josh Raynolds|
Vinous, January/February 2012, IWC Issue #160
(Domaine du Vieux Telegraphe Chateauneuf du Pape La Crau) Subscribe to see review text.
|By Jancis Robinson, MW|
(Dom du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape Red) Subscribe to see review text.
|By Jeb Dunnuck|
The Rhone Report, Issue #9 (9/25/2011)
(Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape La Crau) Login and sign up and see review text. 93-96+ points
|By Richard Jennings|
(Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape La Crau) Dark red violet color; lifted, tart cherry, tart berry, licorice, garrigue nose; tasty, tart cherry, tart berry, licorice, garrigue, graphite palate; needs 4-5 years; medium-plus finish 94+ points (65% Grenache, 15% Mourvedre, 15% Syrah, 5% other reds) 94 points
Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Producer website - Read more about Domaine du Vieux Telegraph
Red Rhone Blend Read about the different grapes used to produce red and white Rhone wines
On CellarTracker, Red Rhone Blend is the term for a wine consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.
A 'food' wine. Lacking pretension and intended for local consumption with local cuisine. Lacks the 'high' notes on a Bordeaux, more earthy and sharper so often a better partner to meat dishes with a sauce.
La Crau On weinlagen-info
France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Rhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)
Southern Rhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Southern Rhone Valley
RP APPRAISAL OF SOUTHERN RHONE VINTAGES:
WA: 2011 88R / 2010 98T / 2009 93E/ 2008 86R / 2007 98E / 2006 92R / 2005 95T / 2004 88R / 2003 90I / 2002 58C / 2001 96T / 2000 98E
### 2005 ###
In southern Rhone, 2005 was a below average sized crop, because of continuing drought and the fact that there are so many old vineyards where low yields are the rule of thumb even in an abundant year. While 2005 is truly an excellent vintage in the south, I do not believe it is a compellingly great vintage, because it has more in common with beefed up, improved version of 1995 than with what I consider an irrefutably great vintage like 1998, 2001 or even 2000. Certainly the wines have plenty of structure and possess fresher, more vibrant acidities than most years provide. The top wines also display impressive levels of concentration. However all the 2005s tend to reveal a certain firmness, and if the grapes were picked too soon, or the vinification/upbringing were not carefully handled, there is a toughness and austerity to the tannins that ultimately will prove to be problematic. Nevertheless, there is an ocean of top wines.
### 2007 ###
The 2007 vintage in Southern France was wonderful. Here is what controversial Robert M. Parker (Wine Advocate Issue 179) said about it, “Throughout the southern Rhône, 2007 is the greatest vintage I have tasted in my thirty years working in that region. I think of 2007 as a hypothetical blend of an opulent, powerful, sumptuous year such as 1990, and a cooler draught vintage such as 2001. The cool weather and the remarkable three weeks of Mistral in September that concentrated the grapes without any spikes of high heat appears to have given the 2007s an aromatic dimension and freshness that I have rarely witnessed. Combine that with wines that are substantial, powerful, and relatively high in alcohol, with super depth of fruit! These are very aromatic wines of great concentration, freshness, laser-like focus, and amazing purity as well as depth. It is the vintage of my lifetime for this region, and I don’t say that lightly.”
### 2010 ###
Robert Parker, on the 2010 vintage:
"Some producers think 2010 eclipses 2007 because of the wines' vivid freshness and focus. Throughout the southern Rhône, the hallmarks of the vintage are very dense purple, sometimes even blue/black colors as well as higher acid levels that have not been seen since 2004 and 2001. In fact, 2010's paradox is that I can't remember a vintage so concentrated, powerful and rich that also has such zesty acidity. The 2010s will have significant aging potential, which is obvious in the level of tannins, but the tannins are sweet with exceptional elegance and finesse. The ratio of high extractive and phenolic skins to the juice has produced wines of extraordinary intensity, freshness, aromatic potential and obvious longevity. This is another great vintage that offers an embarrassment of riches for this region that has enjoyed a succession of extraordinary years."
### 2011 ###
- "has most Rhône vintners exceedingly optimistic for a third straight outstanding year…" -Wine Spectator
- "fans of fruit-forward, accessible wines will find plenty to like from '11, which looks to be an ideal candidate for restaurants as well as for wine lovers…" -Stephen Tanzer
- “we have got 2011 which is a combination of these two great vintages." -Michel Chapoutier on how 2011 is a combination of the 2009 and 2010 vintage
- The 2011 Southern Rhone Region was Rated 89-92 by Wine Spectator's Vintage Chart!
(By Wine Spectator
2011 Vintage Report: France
A first look at vintage quality in French wine regions, with eyewitness reports from growers and winemakers
Posted: November 14, 2011
The 2011 harvest has most Rhône vintners exceedingly optimistic for a third straight outstanding year, though a handful rued some late rains and heat that blemished what could have been a perfect growing season.
By Stephen Tanzer's International Wine Cellar
2011 and 2010 Southern Rhone Wines
By Josh Raynolds
"...fans of fruit-forward, accessible wines will find plenty to like from '11, which looks to be an ideal candidate for restaurants as well as for wine lovers who lack the facilities or patience for long-term storage.
Fans of graceful, fruit-driven Rhone wines will find plenty to like from 2011 and, as was the case in 2008, 2006 and 2004…"
Michel Chapoutier on 2011 in Rhone Valley: A detailed Early Report
26 Octobre 2011
The tastings of the 2011 vintage have recently given an opportunity for Michel Chapoutier to give his first impressions of the quality of this vintage for the appellations of the Rhone Valley. Prior to the presentation of each appellation, he noted that "after a warm and sunny 2009 vintage that resulted in the exuberance of grape varieties, 2010 was a fresher year with slow maturities which generally gave tense wines - to those who were able to wait for the phenolic maturity - some mineral wines, elegant with an outward expression of the soil, we have got 2011 which is a combination of these two great vintages. "
"This 2011 harvest in Rhone Valley was both early and late: a real paradox!"
By Wine Spectator’s Vintage Chart
Drink Rec: NYR
Description: Warm spring, but cool, wet weather in July and August led to uneven ripening; Indian summer saved the vintage. Grenache is light, but Syrah and Mourvèdre strong, so blending key; there will be some excellent wines, but heterogenous from domaine to domaine.)
Châteauneuf-du-Pape Châteauneuf-du-Pape Appellation - Read more about Chateauneuf du Pape
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"As I have written many times in the past, the sweet spot for drinking Châteauneuf du Papes is usually the first 5-6 years after the vintage. Then they seem to go through an adolescent, awkward, and sometimes dormant stage, only to re-emerge around year 10-12, where the majority of wines are often fully mature. The best of them will continue to hold on to life (but rarely improving) beyond 15-20 years. It is only the exceptional Châteauneuf du Papes that will evolve for 20-25+ years, and those are indeed a rarity. However, things may be improving dramatically in terms of the longevity of Châteauneuf du Pape, although Grenache-dominated wines, the vast majority of wines produced in the appellation, are wines that do not have the polyphenol (extract and tannin) content of top Cabernet Sauvignons, Merlots, or Syrah-based wines. Nevertheless, the younger generation in Châteauneuf du Pape has taken seriously the farming in the vineyards. There are more organic and biodynamically run vineyards here than in any other appellation of France. The yields, which were already low, are even lower today (20-35 hectoliters per hectare), and of course, the proliferation of top luxury and/or old-vine cuvées gives a significant boost to the number of wines that will evolve past 25 or 30 years. The advantage of these wines is their broad window of drinkability." ( Robert Parker )