2002 Château Pavie |
| Vintage | 2002 |  | |
| Type | Red | ||
| Producer | Château Pavie (web) | ||
| Variety | Red Bordeaux Blend | ||
| Designation | n/a | ||
| Vineyard | n/a | ||
| Country | France | ||
| Region | Bordeaux | ||
| SubRegion | Libournais | ||
| Appellation | St. Émilion Grand Cru | ||
| UPC Code(s) | 071570014704, 071570016548, 1040000102483, 3277035162127, 3364420026529, 3700218269721, 4000098548176, 721713845107, 829190101096 |
| Drinking Windows and Values |
| Drinking window: Drink between 2010 and 2024 (based on 30 user opinions) | |
| Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Pavie on the Wine Market Journal. |
| Community Tasting History |
Community Tasting Notes (average and median of 93 pts. in 130 notes) | |
| Tasted by Preed on 8/21/2023 & rated 93 points: Wow. What a lovely Bordeaux especially given the vintage. Lovely pencil and tabacco flavours. Enjoy if you have it. (826 views) | |
| Tasted by acyso on 4/14/2023 & rated 88 points: St. Emilion night (Chicago, IL): Surprisingly good, especially for the washout vintage. I guess not being able to push the ripeness as hard as possible meant that the estate could try and produce something a little more elegant. And for the most part, they succeeded. The oak still shows a distinct coconut/vanilla/lactone thing, and the palate is relatively hollow. But there's good acidity and grape as opposed to oak tannin. Drinks like a very nice bistro wine. (1889 views) | |
| Tasted by NickP on 4/9/2023 & rated 89 points: At end of life. Not what I was hoping for rather thin and flat. Not much on the nose and somewhat acidic. Some fink which was interesting but not enough to overcome the other aspects that were not great. I hoped for more (1146 views) | |
| Tasted by beej on 10/2/2022: Drinking beautifully w many years of accessibility ahead. (1616 views) | |
| Tasted by Jeff Leve on 10/18/2021 & rated 94 points: Fully developed, the wine is quite mineral-driven on the nose and palate, where you find strong oceanic, salty notes that combine with the concentrated, layers of sweet, ripe, black and red fruits, licorice, smoke and dried flower nuances. Decanted about 30 minutes prior to sering seemed to do the trick. (4241 views) | |
| Tasted by davidsm on 4/3/2021 & rated 92 points: This doesn’t need much time at all - 30 minutes of air in the bottle. Already lost a bit after being open 90 minutes. In a nice place with a great nose and mouthfeel but honestly a bit underwhelmed. (2337 views) | |
| Tasted by hprphf on 3/26/2021 & rated 91 points: Good for vintage, bit thin, woody nose. 91 (2241 views) | |
| Tasted by mjf@ulkner on 5/23/2020 & rated 93 points: Deep purple, heavy sediment. Short decant. Ripe plum and black raspberry fruit. There is a hint of tobacco and green peppercorns on the finish. Still a bit angular, this softened a bit as the evening went on. Very good now- plenty of stuffing for further evolution. (3199 views) | |
| Tasted by Mathijs81 on 2/9/2020 & rated 92 points: Little less intense then my previous bottle. But still a great wine. No need to hold. Drink now. (3058 views) | |
| Tasted by hkbbmytvsuper on 12/31/2019 & rated 93 points: Tasted on 12/31/2019 (coravin) and finished the rest on 1/18/2020. Smell nice but initially taste sour (as with all quality wines), probably need 4 hour decant to show. The wine (after decanting) has a dominant green plant smell, with a sweet, very rich taste and silkiness mouthfeel. Classic. (2607 views) | |
| Tasted by jmcnewjersey on 9/30/2019 & rated 95 points: Nice green vegetal notes on nose and palate. Awesome full-bodied wine with dark fruit and rich tannins. Within the past year, have enjoyed both the 2001 & 2002; however, a bottle of 2003 was an OTT hot mess. (Sept. 28, 2019 at West Branch Angler Resort) (2672 views) | |
| Tasted by peternelson on 2/23/2019 & rated 94 points: Soft, elegant, still with structure though, good purity, not too much herbal/tobacco, just right, beautifully balanced; Heritage Auction Blind Tasting at Jean-Georges Vegas after party (3254 views) | |
| Tasted by rogerr on 10/12/2018 & rated 96 points: In a beautiful spot right now. Great upon open and deepend in complexity sipping over a 2 hour dinner. (2884 views) | |
| Tasted by MC2 Wines on 6/24/2017: More and more I'm finding myself intrigued by some of the higher end bordeauxs - esp from the right bank. I don't know that this was a great year, but this was a great wine. Opened and decanted for a few hours and then drank over the course of maybe 5 or 6 hours with some very stiff competition. This more than held it's own (I think for some it was even WOTN). Some more herbal and earthy notes, but also good darker, maybe less ripe black fruits. Very strong combination. (4911 views) | |
| Tasted by Lype on 3/15/2017: Really full bodied, big and bold, oaky, needs years of cellaring to show its best. (2088 views) | |
| Tasted by Mathijs81 on 3/3/2017 & rated 92 points: Still very young, so give it couple of hours in the decanter for sure ! Upon uncorking and decanting, an amazing aroma filled the living room. Spices, abundances of deep dark fruits, pepper, woody, burnt meat juices, etc. Again, this is why I like Pavie and why I buy their wines !!! Mathijs (5026 views) | |
| Tasted by Jeff Leve on 1/29/2017 & rated 94 points: One of the top wines of this cooler vintage is rich, concentrated and loaded with ripe, black cherry, licorice, dark chocolate, cedar and wet earth. The tannins are soft, the finish is long and the aromatics are complex. For those that find Pavie too much for their delicate senses, this is a good vintage to explore, due to its cool, weather characteristics. (5593 views) | |
| Tasted by Burgnick on 1/19/2017 & rated 93 points: This is by far my favorite pavie at this point of time. It definitely needs a 90 mins decant. In a difficult 02 vintage, the wine truly stands out. Cassis, sweet black fruit, ink and perfume on the nose. The palate has depth and weight despite the weak vintage. There are a lot of underlying substance and complexity in this wine. Palate is juicy and big with balanced fruit and the right bank elegance. I feel like this has a better balance than the 98 pavie. 93+ (4861 views) | |
| Tasted by kenthargis on 10/9/2016 & rated 92 points: This was a nice bottle, especially given the terrible vintage. Definitely noticed the softness and plum of the merlot. In a very good spot. Went well with steak. No need to wait any longer. Full-bodied without being too much. (4947 views) | |
| Tasted by rogerr on 12/29/2015 & rated 95 points: Wine is drinking beautifully now and has many more years of interesting development. Silky tannins, still vibrant fruit, interlaced with pleasant tertiary flavors of a maturing wine. (4670 views) | |
| Tasted by davidsm on 11/9/2015 & rated 92 points: I know a lot of people think this is ready to drink but this bottle clearly wasn't ready. Even after a few hour decant the wine was holding back a lot and very tight. Much better day 2 and clearly has the stuff to be outstanding but not going to touch another bottle until 2017. (4237 views) | |
| Tasted by Burgnick on 10/7/2015 & rated 94 points: Wow! This is very good, much better than the 02 margaux I tried last week. Popped and poured..this is ready for business. The nose had truffle, black fruit, cigar box, vanilla, cedar wood and licorice. Palate had good depth with beautiful black fruit emerging with hint of truffle and caramel. This is drinking nicely now. (4686 views) | |
| Tasted by Jeff Leve on 9/4/2015 & rated 94 points: 2 hours of air brought out the chocolate covered, black cherries, truffle, licorice, cigar box and floral notes. Soft, smooth and round, but lacking the volume and opulence found in the top vintages, this is really drinking well. While 2 hours of air brought the wine around, after 4 hours of air, the wine lost its edge. This is for drinking now and over the next decade or so. (5066 views) | |
| Tasted by Rezy13 on 8/18/2015 & rated 91 points: Tuesday Night Double Blind $60+ (Bin 75): Dark garnet core with crimson rim; cigar, leather, menthol, Bordeaux funk, round, plum, ripe cherry and currant, some green; nice richness, spicy, red fruit, some leather, firm tannin, tar, cigar, high toned finish, alcohol stands out a bit; still youthful; one of the better '02 Right Banks, others really liked though I felt it lacked some definition due to the modern winemaking. (4561 views) | |
| Tasted by JHalvorson on 5/7/2015 & rated 95 points: We brought this bottle to La Belle Ve for your 38th anniversary. They decanted it for us. We enjoyed a glass of Chardonnay while we gave the Pavie some time to open up. The first taste was of dark cherry with hints of a forest. The last glass was very close to perfect wine. (3016 views) | |
| Tasted by Lord Rayas on 10/18/2014 & rated 94 points: drinking very well now. rich and velvety, but in a much more restrained style than 00 or 03. definitely one of the better 02s I'v tried. (3953 views) | |
| Tasted by jnewman77 on 9/27/2014: This is really outstanding. The nose has dried plum, black currant, saddle leather, earthy and savory notes, hints of vanilla, and some dried floral scents. The palate is lovely with loads of flavor and complexity and an almost tension like feel. This is just beginning to show signs of maturity but has years to develop yet. (3606 views) | |
| Tasted by Jeff Leve on 8/26/2014 & rated 93 points: Floral, earth, cherry blossoms, licorice, black raspberries, smoke and a faint whisper of oak in the background open to a soft, dusty, olive tapenade and plummy palate. This is probably at or close to its peak. No hurry to drink it, but it's not a wine to lay down for decades. I decanted this about 2 hours before consumption. The olive component became stronger as the night wore on. My instincts say, this wine might be better with a short decant, or popped and poured and allowed to develop in the glass. (4406 views) | |
| Tasted by CR lawrence on 7/21/2014 & rated 93 points: Very nice wine. Deep garnet, aromas of forest floor, tastes of dark berries, black currant, blackberry, blueberry, with hints of fig, mushroom, coffee, black pepper and chocolate. Just now coming to full bloom. (3778 views) | |
| Tasted by WojoWineCave on 6/21/2014 & rated 95 points: 20 Year Anniversary Party at the Lake; 6/21/2014-6/22/2014 (Our lake house): I like all pavie wines. This vintage is drinking much better than the famed 2005. Just so well made. Rich but not over extracted. Tannins present but well integrated. Some earth but no funk. Guests really enjoyed this high quality St Emillion. (4221 views) | |
| Tasted by sshayfin on 3/27/2014 & rated 91 points: clean red color with brown at the edges. med-high intense red fruit, earthal aromas with a hint of oxidation aromas. dry full body, high tanins, med acidity with black frit flavours. complex, at the pick. (1140 views) | |
| Tasted by WKC on 2/11/2014 & rated 93 points: First try of a Pavie and was not disappointed. Popped and poured expecting tannins to be harsh. Medium intense, herbaceous, fruity aromas in the glass. Tannins were surprisingly soft with minimal airing. Finish was complex with decent length. Got better as night wore on. Would love to try this estate again in this and other vintages. (3315 views) | |
| Tasted by Colima74 on 9/24/2013 & rated 94 points: Smooth tannins, a hint of stems that adds to the complexity. Still on its youthful side but approaching a more mature stage with secondary flavors beginning to emerge. Really tasting great at lunch today. (4147 views) | |
| Tasted by peterchoy on 8/18/2013 & rated 93 points: Appearance: Bright and clear, this wine is of deep ruby color, with legs. Nose: Clean, the nose shows medium (+) intensity aromas of black fruit such as blackberry, blackcurrant and cherries, sweet spice of cloves, oak notes of cedar, kernel notes of dark coffee, maturity notes of truffle and wet leaves, mineral notes of earth. The wine is developing. Palate: Dry, it has medium acidity and medium (+) tannin of ripe and velvety texture. The alcohol level is medium (+), with a medium (+) body, showing medium (+) intensity flavors of black fruit such as blackberry, blackcurrant and black cherry, oak notes of cedar, maturity notes of tobacco, sweet spice of cloves, kernel notes of chocolate. The wine has a medium (+) finish. Conclusion: Very good quality St-Emilion with good intensity on the nose, showing a wide range of complex aromas, the wine is robust with good structure, yet still having the finesse and elegance, with a palate showing smooth tannin. The flavors are similarly interesting with also good concentration, with the main critics being the alcohol level is a bit too warming. Finishing with a good length, the wine is ready to drink now though can benefit from further ageing of another 5-7 years. (4059 views) | |
| Tasted by dcwino on 4/25/2013 & rated 90 points: I have enjoyed the 02 Pavie in the past. This bottle just simply didn’t show well yet it was a sound bottle. Black fruits, very ripe, a hint of port, bitter chocolate, caramel and noticeable cedar note coming from oak. Ripe fruits give the impression of highly concentrated wine yet the middle palate is hollow. The finish shows noticeable dry tannins. I hope this will come together. (4889 views) | |
| Tasted by km5 on 2/20/2013: awesome at la sirene...thanks john again and again and again ! :) (4856 views) | |
| Tasted by Tim Heaton on 2/14/2013: Opened Thursday for Friday dinner service. Opens tight, dark garnet toward purple. Shut down pretty hard, as suspected, but if it sits in the decanter for the next 24 hours (at 57F), it might be ready - more ready than when I opened it, anyway. Wasn't giving up much first, but after an hour, the ounce I poured off in a glass began to slowly unwind. Iron, fig paste, espresso roast, snap peas, red currant, freshly picked raspberry, pipe tobacco, and cranberry. I have no illusions, this will be bursting at the seams come dinner time tomorrow. Full bodied, with sufficient acids and very fine-grained tannins. For an '02, all I could ask for from the vintage. Rolland inspired wines are always guilty pleasure, this will be no different. 14,0% abv, drink thru 2026, about a finger's worth of very fine sediment. (4868 views) | |
| Tasted by Jeff Leve on 1/25/2013 & rated 94 points: There are some nights when a bottle of Pavie is all that will do. This was one of those nights. Still dark in color, blackberry, blueberry, earth, truffle, kirsch liqueur, licorice, smoke and a hint of espresso bean with dark chocolate made the perfume come alive with little effort and perhaps 30 minutes in the decanter. On the palate is where its star shines brightly. It's the perfect balance between thick and concentrated meshed against opulent, velvet textures. This is like drinking pure pleasure. If you get hung up on modern, vs traditional styles, perhaps this is not your thing. But if you look at wines as a vehicle for pleasure, this is a nice way to go. It's young, but starting to open. Drink it, or wait a decade. (4658 views) | |
| Tasted by StainedGlass on 10/19/2012: What a disappointment. Cork was intact and the color looked fine, but the fruit was thin and faded. Drinkable but oak, spice and acid prominant with little fruit to provide a counterbalance. I wasn't sure if it was in a dumb phase, or maybe a little cooked, though other tasting notes here seem to have made similar observations. (4531 views) | |
| Tasted by godx on 9/17/2012: La Commanderie de Bordeaux à Vancouver - 2002 Horizontal (Blue Water Cafe): Medium red. At first this was quite shy on the nose and wasn’t giving up much. As it opened in the glass notes of tobacco, riper dark fruits, oak and hints of coffee. Smoothest wine of the flight on the palate and also the ripest and most forward with a heavily extracted but not over-the-top profile. As other tasters stated, this was far less Pavie-like than other modern vintages which is a good thing in my mind. It’s full and rich and smooth on the palate with just a touch of roasted fruit coming through but you really have to look for it. I voted this as the best of this flight at this point and thought it was excellent. But as it sat in the glass (about an hour later) it started showing off-putting roasted notes on both the nose and palate. Not sure where this is going. Judgment reserved. (4412 views) | |
| Tasted by KeithAkers on 9/17/2012 & rated 87 points: A small 2002 Bordeaux Retrospective (Maude's Liquor Bar, Chicago IL): nose: oak is certainly there with tones of creosote, dark red fruits, dark cherries, some floral tones and coffee grinds as well. While the oak is upfront, things were more in place together for me. Still, oak influences are the dominant tones with some fruit as well. taste: full bodied with chewy tannins, but they aren't truly overpowering. The tones of coffee grinds, dark red cherries, smoke and some dark red fruits are a bit brutish and bigger right now. overall: The oak is certainly there, as well as some extraction, but it does come off as working together. I'm not sure how this will develop and where it will go. (5174 views) | |
| Tasted by tooch on 9/17/2012 & rated 84 points: 2002 Bordeaux - 10 Year Retrospective (Maude's Liquor Bar - Chicago, IL): Seemed to be in a weird spot with the oak really showing through. The fruit was a bit dim, thin and acidic and wasn't a great match at the moment for the smokey, toasty oak. Will time reveal elegant fruit? Or will this just fade away? (4856 views) | |
| Tasted by amgryger on 7/23/2012: NY/NJ Offline at Beacon 7.23.12 (Beacon, NYC): Rich aromatics on the nose of ripe cherry, cassis, vanilla and oak. Similar profile on the palate with medium to full body, medium acid and medium high tannin structure. Long finish. Nice stuff. (5224 views) | |
| Tasted by dcwino on 4/1/2012 & rated 96 points: GJE CRD 2008 and EP 2011; 3/29/2012-4/4/2012 (Bordeaux, France): It is start to soften, gain density and complexity yet it still shows more primary than the 00 and the 01. Dark fruits, cassis, allspice and bitter chocolate. Perhaps the biggest surprise. (7170 views) | |
| Tasted by soyhead on 3/24/2012 & rated 91 points: nose - cedar, asian spice, per miguel smells like an earthy cave mouth - quite spicy, juicy red and dark fruit, with fine tannins on the finish. Still with plenty of years ahead of it. (4580 views) | |
| Tasted by clairenclarence on 3/23/2012 & rated 93 points: its definitely a nice wine.but i hve tasted a poyferre 04 a few day ago.i wud say tat the pavie 02 is definitely a overprice wine incomparison to the poyfeere04. i find tat the poyferre 04 is slightly better in structure than the pavie 02 but yet its much cheaper than the pavie 02.but i wud stil gve 93 pts coz its rather close to the poyferre tat i hve drnk few days ago which i hve nt update here in cellar tracker.overall comments:try if u r willing to xplore.if nt save the $ for poyferre 04.much more value for $ (4683 views) | |
| Tasted by DonalOB on 3/18/2012 & rated 93 points: Right-bank Bordeaux tasting (Watson's, Hong Kong): Complex nose and palate of various fruits and a little oak. Good acidity on this. The tannins were very smooth. This seemed to be just moving into tertiary flavours. One to watch. (5400 views) | |
| Tasted by Hawk94 on 1/23/2012 & rated 95 points: What a fantastic wine! Classic Bordeaux! Fabulous bouque with cherry, strawberry, blue berry, a bit of smoke. Smooth mid palate with drak fruits, dates, hint of jam, expresso, racy, tender, and juicy. Long lasting finish. Drink very well now and should be drinking well for next decade. (4987 views) | |
| Tasted by Jeff Leve on 1/8/2012 & rated 95 points: Blackberry liqueur, smoke, truffle, stone, earth, caramel, fresh herbs and a faint hint of espresso bean make up the perfume. On the palate, concentrated flavors of fresh black raspberry, bitter chocolate, Maraschino cherry flavors unfold with luscious, rich, sexy textures. This is a great place to catch this wine. It should deliver pleasure and continue to expand for at least another 10-15 years. This is much better than the last bottle I opened and both were from the same case! (5634 views) | |
| Tasted by cliffkol on 12/21/2011 & rated 94 points: amazing as always. 2 hr decant. Gail: classy, sophisticated. (5291 views) | |
| Tasted by Wine Sparty on 12/8/2011 & rated 91 points: Decanted for 90 minutes before drinking with grilled pork chops. Aroma has a bit of mustiness to it, but has some tobacco, mushroom and wood smell, as well as blueberry and blakcberry. On the palate, mushroom comes through, as well as the tobacco. The fruit is quite restrained in the taste, but still has the dark fruits in the background. Still quite a bit of tannin on it, even after 2 hours in the decanter. There seemed to be a tartness that developed on the finish after 3 hours, almost like tart cherries. Very enjoyable wine, but the finish that developed did make me wonder about where this is heading. (5545 views) | |
| Tasted by km5 on 11/5/2011: Ecstasy...awesome (5778 views) | |
| Tasted by raginbajan on 10/8/2011 & rated 91 points: Maybe the bottle, but this was not consistent with my prior experiences with this wine. Disappointed (5769 views) | |
| Tasted by Jeff Leve on 8/16/2011 & rated 92 points: This opened with a quiet nose of truffle, smoke, minerality and spicy black raspberries. Lush, plush and sensuous on the palate, most of the tannin has been resolved. The wine finished with a soft, spicy, licorice and spicy, black cherry finish. Each bottle has its own personality. Some are going to be better than others .I tend to think this was not a correct bottle as I've had this wine before and its shown better. I'm going to need to open another in the near future to discover if it was this bottle, or the specific vintage that has not developing as well as expected. (6477 views) | |
| Tasted by slaughterer on 7/3/2011 & rated 97 points: The ectsasy of everything cherry. Cool, limestone, beautiful. Can tell it never spent a second in a damp, fungal basement. (6725 views) | |
| Tasted by happytom on 6/19/2011 & rated 94 points: Opened. nose of barnyard and wet earth; rather funcky. taste of cedar and very dry cigar box. no fruit at all. came back 2 hours later and what an evolution. totally agree with soyheads review dated12-21-10. Great Wine. It took us on a great journey while preparing dinner and dining. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. (6515 views) | |
| Tasted by danielk168 on 5/13/2011 & rated 91 points: Decanted half and left the rest in the bottle, agree with most of the descriptions but somehow, it did not click tonight. Perhaps it was because the 02 Sassicaia opened together did so well as to overshadow the Pavie. 2 hours into dinner, it started to come together but the floral tones was a bit subdued to my liking, fruits were hitting high notes. Need to tasted again and focus more. (6795 views) | |
| Tasted by King Cab on 5/1/2011 & rated 93 points: Threw this into a bbq mix where many a Napa Cabs were served (as well expected of me), and oh yeah... I had wrapped it in foil. Let's have some fun. Opened at 1pm. Served at 5. Initially this showed some reddish fruits of raspberries and red currant with a hint of strawberries. I spent a few minutes with it right after pop and thought to myself how it fit into my expectations of what I thought it should taste like according to others notes and conversations about Pavie in general, this being my second Gérard Perse era Pavie. This was Bordeaux, and a real nice Bordeaux indeed. By time served it was fun to watch the group taste and guess and much more of the same. Someone said Napa Cab right off the bat, others guessed mid nineties Napa Cabernet. Color was a pretty hue of carmine with burnt-umber edges and transparent throwing a slight/fine sediment. The crowd looked toward me suspiciously. I said nothing. It had real nice purity with a tremendously expressive midpalate with an almost pinot-like mouth feel. There was some nice hints of cedar and spice-box with tobacco, lite-soy sauce, and smoke. What I really loved was that strawberry note, and this in particular combined with some damp cellar floor, earth and a very real 'Regal-ness' told me we were firmly right of the Gironde. Someone said 2002 or 2003, I nodded yes. OK, time for a hint: It is a Bordeaux varietal other than Cabernet Sauvignon. Someone said it was not Merlot; sleuth-Nano needed another pour (or two) and Cheryl who knows me all to well said 'Somebody had to have gifted you this wine Mike', to which I gave a BIG grin; they were onto me and it was time to reveal my one and only bottle of Bordeaux to a boisterous and laughing crowd. I liked this one alot. (thanks Sax!) (7142 views) | |
| Tasted by EMichels on 5/1/2011 & rated 92 points: Tastes of early 90's California cabernet; Color and nose show age (4784 views) | |
| Tasted by km5 on 2/25/2011 & rated 95 points: Beautiful brilliant gem like color and love at first taste...rich nose, enjoyable tannins, perfectly balanced, solidly structured wine with depth, complexity and finish that goes on. Kept drinking better through the night. Easily WOTN for me. Can't imagine what the 2000 bottle would taste like. (7063 views) | |
| Tasted by S. Lorin on 2/20/2011 & rated 95 points: brilliant wine in an off year - perfectly characteristic of St. Emilion with dark fruit, smoke, earth and limestone - young but perfectly balanced with an elegant, lingering finish (7207 views) | |
| Tasted by dcwino on 2/16/2011 & rated 93 points: good showing, excellent concentration while maintaining freshness. Blue fruit still primary. (7288 views) | |
| Tasted by tooch on 2/15/2011 & rated 90 points: First Growth Dinner (plus some La Mission) (Ruths Chris - Washington, DC): Compared to the elderly wines from Bordeaux drank alongside this, it's easy to consider my perception of this to be flawed. I did however, find it to more enjoyable and restrained than I had imagined it being...so that's a good thing. Very deep nose of cherry tobacco, cassis, smoke and vanilla. Palate was concentrated was bright with there was a freshness to it that seemed to hold any overblown fruit or alcohol in check. Overall I was impressed. (8079 views) | |
| Tasted by JOsgood on 12/25/2010 flawed bottle: Another corked bottle from JJ Buckley. (7321 views) | |
| Tasted by soyhead on 12/21/2010 & rated 92 points: This is my 5th bottle of this and it keeps getting better. Need to try hard to hold off on the remainders. Huge fruit and raspberry on the nose. Mouth showing a big fat wine with great minearlity and still considerable tannins. Secondary flavors include licorice and maraschino cherry. Delicious fruit forward wine with good complexity that will clearly improve with bottle age. (7243 views) | |
| Tasted by cliffkol on 12/12/2010 & rated 94 points: decanted 1 hour. A beautiful, wonderful wine. Served with rack of lamb and was amazing. True to its reputation and expectation. (7241 views) | |
| Tasted by SJC on 10/31/2010 & rated 94 points: Still a bit young but terrific wine. Dark red/maroon color, dark chocolate nose and taste, almost sweet upon tasting, full body, will do better with some time but great drinking now. No signs of tannins or any significant need for decanting. Had it immediately upon opening and, while it did have more finesse later on, it was wonderful to have right out of the bottle (8000 views) | |
| Tasted by c.chew on 10/9/2010 & rated 94 points: delicious and great for the price. (7629 views) | |
| Tasted by dcwino on 9/16/2010 flawed bottle: Great texture and concentration but ever so slightly corked. (7183 views) | |
| Tasted by raginbajan on 7/10/2010 & rated 94 points: Excellent (7376 views) | |
| Tasted by markelee on 5/22/2010 & rated 92 points: Color: Dark purple with a hint of brown rim Nose: a tad closed, but after 45 minutes of decanting, nice dark fruits, notes of earth, leather and a nice subtle hint of barnyard and tobacco. Palate: Similar to nose, beautiful black plum with other dark fruits, notes of cedar, and a smooth finish with very sweet tannins. Not a typical Bordeaux, which is not surprising for a Pavie. Much more New World in its character, though still clearly terroir driven. Well balanced, well integrated. For this bottle, it surprised me to be a bit closed, but otherwise, it is a very drinkable wine and still very enjoyable. My expectations were higher, admittedly, which is probably reflected in my score, but no doubt, this is a phenomenally made wine that will last a generation. Personally, I will wait 6 months or a year to open my next bottle, and hope to enjoy it even more than I did this bottle. But again, it is very enjoyable now. (7401 views) | |
| Tasted by danibus on 5/8/2010 & rated 92 points: My first Pavie. Mixed feelings. Excellent heady wine. You can taste the attention to detail, with the dark fruit, earth, meat, a little barnyard, and tobacco. First class all the way. While Napa-esque, I've not had a better Napa for this price. Its just that at this point in my wine evolution, I much prefer classic Bordeaux. I'm glad I have only a few bottles in my mini-vertical. Maybe I should trade them in for good Medocs that I'd enjoy more. (7354 views) | |
| Tasted by europat55 on 5/1/2010 & rated 93 points: WOW! Incredible nose! High complexity, very good balance, long finish. I want to taste over multiple days to see how it evolves... I'm planning to drink this bottle over multiple days to see how it evelves and I can tell you that it is extremely difficicult to resist finishing the bottle on day one. This is my first experience with a Pavie and I'm amazed to see how much it can deliver from an 'off' vintage... I can only imagine what the experience can be with a premium vintage! 93 pts now and definitely 95+ in 5-10 years. I'm really glad that I have a few more bottles in the cellar. (7156 views) | |
| Tasted by thirstyman on 4/15/2010: Open and decanted. Wonderful nose. Ready to drink. Dark fruit and a bit of earthyness with a hint of sweet tannin left on the finish. 90-92 (7240 views) | |
| Tasted by doctoroflaws on 4/3/2010 & rated 95 points: Drinking so, so well now. Nose is lovely. Tannins are almost gone, silky finish. Wonderful wine that drinks well now since 2002 is an off year in Bordeaux. (7345 views) | |
| Tasted by viking60 on 3/28/2010 & rated 93 points: At St Jacques in Raleigh. This is why Bordeaux will always beat Cali in off years. Barnyard nose, but def dark fruit, terrior driven. On the initial, Coffee and Leather and milk chocolate, balance was perfect, acid was nice, cut throw a orange merlot sauce like a laser! Tannins were sweet very tame and the finish was silk! Nice bit of vannilla. Wine was very feninine. This why I love Pavie, In big years 00, 03, 05 very big and broad, and in off years totally different, feninine and supple. Drinking great now! (7081 views) | |
| Tasted by pian0_player on 2/24/2010 & rated 94 points: Excellent wine, and my fist Pavie. Not quite sure what all the controversy is all about? Wonderful Bordeaux nose of barnyard, dark fruit, chocolate, and coffee. Excellent complexity and depth with a lingering finish. I cant wait to try this wine in a great vintage. Probably could benefit from another few years in the bottle, but is drinking well now. Lovely. (7215 views) | |
| Tasted by Niagara on 1/31/2010 & rated 89 points: Better on the nose (though with strong alcohol scent) than on the palate, where though it has ample dark fruit, it seems unbalanced and lacks depth. Tasted blind. (7247 views) | |
| Tasted by Millercg68 on 1/23/2010 & rated 94 points: WOW! Incredible nose! Highly complex, balanced, with a 60 second finish. Thank goodness I have one left. This is still young and hugely powerful, but is drinking extremely well right now. (6961 views) | |
| Tasted by thirstyman on 1/20/2010: nothing formal - nice with an hour in the decanter. Dark fruit with a hint of vanilla. (6696 views) | |
| Tasted by soyhead on 11/16/2009 & rated 92 points: Decanted for 6+ hours nose- nose - dark cherry, roasted coffee, mint, toasted oak mouth - dark fruit, followed by prominent espresso on the midpalate. The tannins have a nice texture and coat the palate. The wine has a lengthy and dry finish. I'm seeking out but not really finding the 'minerality'. Oddly I though this went better by itself than with the pesto pasta. (6717 views) | |
| Tasted by Niagara on 10/21/2009 & rated 88 points: Good nose of tobacco, leather, and cedar shavings. Big and round on the palate, with a bit of residual sweetness. Lots of fruit, but not nearly enough to obscure the high alcohol, particularly on the finish: As the fruit died away, the alcohol emerged as a significant component of the aftertaste, almost like spirits in the back of the throat and up the nose, finally leaving behind a slight yet very unpleasant suggestion of rubbing alcohol. Must say the experience was a bit of a disappointment from a wine of this reputation and price. (6981 views) | |
| Tasted by peblin on 9/26/2009 & rated 92 points: Pavie Vertical: Opaque, red color. Blue, vanilla fruit with deep roasted notes of oak and popcorn. Also a nice flowery touch. High alcohol. Powerful taste with high acidity. Somewhat sweet, round fruit. (8194 views) | |
| Tasted by goofy Yno on 6/14/2009 & rated 94 points: decanted/consumed over 2.5 hours. powerful nose with layers of black fruit/blackberry/cinnamon. served warmer than I like, complex mouth with long finish. after two hours evolving nose with coffee, smoke, tobacco. layers of fruit in the mouth. young and powerful (7134 views) | |
| Tasted by Tim Heaton on 6/9/2009: Decanted 4 hrs, a thing of beauty as it unfolded in the decanter. Very powerful nose of red and black fruits, pencil shavings, graphite, dark spices and vanilla. The palate had too many layers of fruit to count yet the acidity was somehow able to wash down the sheer size of this wine. A true bargain at this price. (7144 views) | |
| Tasted by craiglpalmer on 5/15/2009 & rated 95 points: Decanted for 3 hours but probably not long enough as it kept getting better and better as time passed. Inky black color. Fantastic nose of minerals, earth, ripe berry and cocoa. Great mouth feel with firm, integrated tannins. Elegant wine -- no fruit bomb - with classic right bank minerality layered with black, vibrant fruit and smoke. Finish goes on and on. Great wine that is drinkable now yet will continue to improve for a long time. (7384 views) | |
| Tasted by soyhead on 4/26/2009 & rated 92 points: Decanted 3 hours. Beautiful perfumed nose of cocoa. Mouth - very silky and round, decent fruit structure but then a gorgeous chocolate and cocoa midpalate. Almost tastes like a dessert, but fully dry. Went best with some medium strength cheeses. Far from a fruit bomb, and not appealing to those in the group looking for a fruit driven wine. This was ultimately a very classy cuvee. (6916 views) | |
| Tasted by dannyk8232 on 4/25/2009 & rated 95 points: Really opened up after about 90 minutes in the decanter. A deep, dark purple in the glass. Very expressive nose with a bit of barnyard funk, black fruit and smoke. Rich plum, cassis and a meaty element keep evolving through the midpalate and long finish highlighted by fine, prickly tannins. Very complex with many, many layers and tremendous balance. I am glad I have one more, as it will most definitely benefit from a few years in bottle. 40+5+5+19+18+8=95 (6766 views) | |
| Tasted by Tim Heaton on 12/24/2008: I drank this over 3 nights. The first night it was all about terroir - a muscular, intense nose of saddle leather, meat, tobacco leaf and vanilla bean. Stunning on the nose, the palate was a bit tight. On night 2 the wine decided to play a bit dumb: the nose had retreated to become very subdued and the palate was not really giving up any fruit. Night 3: friggin' stunning, on the nose and the palate. If you've got a few, don't wait too long to open one - it's very, very pleasurable, and worth every cent. Drink through 2022. Approx $105, 14% abv. (7197 views) | |
| Tasted by the godfather on 11/30/2008 & rated 93 points: suprisingly accesible, more leather and tobacco than I would have expected but also plenty of fruit and lovely perfume. (6863 views) | |
| Tasted by JOsgood on 11/30/2008 & rated 93 points: Not as wow as the first bottle of this wine that I consumed but more elegant. Decanted for close to two hours and still slow to come around. Lots of leather and secondary earthy notes. Very looong finish. Will hold my remaining bottle for some time. (6771 views) | |
| Tasted by the godfather on 11/29/2008 flawed bottle: son of a _____, corked! (5843 views) | |
| Tasted by JOsgood on 11/28/2008 flawed bottle: First bottle of 3 from JJ Buckley and it was corked. (5636 views) | |
| Tasted by rogerr on 11/15/2008 & rated 93 points: Very dark, dusty, cedar trunk nose. Decanted 2 hours - needed more. Smooth. (5815 views) | |
| Tasted by psi on 11/4/2008 & rated 94 points: I seldom taste Bordeaux of this caliber and I acknowledge that this first-time experience in itself risks boosting my enthusiasm... But... what a wine. Extremely elegant, massive but lean nose of crushed minerality, right bank terroir, white smoke and spice. Vibrant and soo elegant fruit on the palate, earthy minerality with silky and integrated tannins. Wonderful mouthfeel with incredible depth and a very long finish. This is a stunning wine and a big achievment for the vintage. And it is drinking beautifully right now. (5815 views) | |
| Tasted by soyhead on 10/30/2008 & rated 92 points: only seemed to be opening up after 4 hours. Probably drinking this too early. (5540 views) | |
| Tasted by mmyette on 10/27/2008 & rated 93 points: Utterly smooth, and drinking very well right now. Nose of crushed gravel and ripe berry fruit. Taste was complex and layered, with a medium body, and cedar, creme-de-cassis, slight brown spice notes, earthy mineral, and healthy acid. Tannins were silky, and finish was moderate, with lingering blackberry. Very nice wine for the vintage. (5543 views) | |
| Tasted by JOsgood on 9/25/2008 & rated 97 points: My first taste of Pavie and wow, I was blown away. This is the SQN of the right bank! Black as night with a massive nose. I couldn't keep my nose out of the glass. Very powerful on the palate while maintaining a perfect balance. Vibrant fruit, new oak and earthy notes. Superb mouthfeel. Long, long finish. I kept saying OMG. Incredible stuff. (5882 views) | |
| Tasted by soyhead on 9/3/2008 & rated 93 points: nose - smokey, beef jerky, red pepper (see below), plum. Mostly oak derived aromas. My dad thinks it smelled a bit like shoe polish. "if I smelled this at the shoe stand, I would think its a good shoe polish" mouth - a touch thin with vegetal notes. Complex. Juicy red fruit, strong tobacco notes. Good acidity. Good tannins. Well balanced (exactly what everyone else has said no?). I have a second bottle which i will hold onto for 5 years and retry. (5531 views) | |
| Tasted by Totatalitarian on 6/13/2008: A beast…in a good way. Someone referred to its “dark perfume,” which will stick with me. (5536 views) | |
| Tasted by grrrpor on 12/18/2007 & rated 94 points: drank with Andrew, Mark and Anne no notes - other than we decanted for 3-4 hours and all REALLY enjoyed it (6319 views) | |
| Tasted by vanpe003 on 12/15/2007 & rated 92 points: Wow!!! Quite dark visually. Popped/poured. Initially quite smoky on the nose. This move back a bit, with a sweet if dark perfume on the nose becoming more evident. Smokiness continues on the palate, along with a variety of savory flavors. This has a tremendous amount of depth, but other than that does little to remind me of New World. This is meatier, gamier and more savory while at the same time less oak / vanilla. Nevertheless, it packs a wallop! Decant for 3-4 hours before serving. Update: 2/3 of a btl day 2, no refrigeration. Meat and tomatoes with eucalyptus and cedar on the nose. Palate remains rich, with a lot of tannins and wood on the finish. I'm looking fwd to trying this one again 3-4 years from now. (5984 views) | |
| Tasted by LPskeleton on 6/2/2007 & rated 93 points: Amazing balance between old world style and new world fruits. For an off vintage I really enjoyed this. A aromatic plethora of tobacco, black cherry, bell peppers , licourice and blackberry pie. On the palate beautiful layers peel themselves away second after second, revealing a silky texture and deep dark earthen coated fruits (6761 views) | |
| Tasted by MTC on 3/12/2007 & rated 94 points: Dark fruit. Good tannins. Smooth. (7178 views) | |
| Tasted by plitton on 2/28/2007 & rated 93 points: Sam's Wine Bordeaux Night; 2/27/2007-2/28/2007 (Chicago): Velvety with a little edge to it. It's a big mouthful of fruit with good backbone. Needs to age for several more years before trying again. (7369 views) | |
| Tasted by jjoyce on 2/8/2007: WLTV North Jersey Off-Line at Basilicos: Aerated the heck out of this. The fruit really never made its way out, but I did finally get some smoke on the nose. The taste was very closed, but there was some great structure there with the oak and small hints of other flavors. I can't score this now, but I know this is going to be really yummy in about 10-15 years. (6416 views) | |
| Tasted by paulst on 7/15/2006 & rated 88 points: Austere and lean black currant medium finish. (6697 views) | |
| Tasted by archer752000 on 7/15/2005 & rated 94 points: Dark, black-ruby color. Very fresh and open nose of chocolate, tobacco, red pepper and vanilla pudding. Tannins are thick and rich, yet very friendly at this time. Balance and refinement in every sip. May be the wine of the vintage for me. (7152 views) | |
| Tasted by mdstenner on 6/18/2005 & rated 92 points: Dain Wines Barrel Samples (and others) (Springfield, MO): Surprisingly open and generous. Heady aromatics, strong flavors. Will be really good in 6-8 years. (8003 views) |
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Château PavieProducer website - Read more about Chateau PavieThe vineyard on weinlagen-info 2002 Château PaviePremiers Grand Cru B70% Merlot 20% Cabernet Franc 10% Cabernet Sauvignon Red Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico. FranceVins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings 2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest" 2019 vintage reports 2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage." 2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.com BordeauxBordeaux Wine GuideVins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux) History of Bordeaux History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification "2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson "2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman "The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson "2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson "In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon Rimmerman LibournaisLibournais (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux) - Read more about St. Emilion and its wines - Read more about Pomerol and its winesSaint Emilion Grat Classified Growth, Classified Growths, Grands Crus Classes, GCC In 1954, while the "Graves" growths had just published their own classification, the wine syndicate of Saint-Emilion, composed by wine growers, brokers and wine traders with the approval of the INAO - Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (A.O.C), decided to work on a classification for the wines of Saint Emilion. Initially, four grades were defined. These were reduced to two - First Great Classified Growth (A and B) and Great Classified Growth - in 1984. As of Medoc's 1855 historical grading, the Saint-Emilion Great Classified Growth classification is not only based on qualitative criteria by tasting the wines on a ten years period previous to the assessment, but also on commercial considerations such as: - sales price levels - national and international commercial distribution - the estate's reputation on the market Properties who don't manage to join the club of about sixty Classified Growths are given the denomination of Great Growth ("Grand Cru"), while the remaining wineries of the A.O.C are simply reported as "Saint-Emilion". It is to be noted that the owners must officially apply to appear in the official classification. Thus for example the famous Chateau Tertre-Roteboeuf, whose quality and reputation would easily justify to be listed among the First Great Classified Growths, does not appear here by the will of its owner, François Mitjaville. The Saint-Emilion Great Growth classification was revised in 1969, 1985, 1996 and 2006. The only two guaranteed vintage (A.O.C) who can apply to the classification are the "Saint-Emilion Grand Cru" and "Saint-Emilion" areas. By grading 61 properties, the 2006 revision confirmed many growths from the former classification, but also caused a number of surprises and a few inevitable disappointments. Many observers thought that the impressive progression of Perse's Chateau Pavie since 1998 would be rewarded by an upgrade into the First Great Classified Growths (A) category, but finally such was not the case. Among the estates promoted to the First Great Classified Growths B category are Chateau Troplong-Mondot and Pavie-Macquin, whose efforts made since the Nineties fully justify their new grade. It should be noted that no First Great Classified Growth was relegated to the lower Great Classified Growth class. Promoted growths from the status of Great Growth ("Grand Cru") to Great Classified Growth ("Grand Cru Classe") are: Chateaux Bellefont-Belcier, Destieux, Fleur Cardinale, Grand Corbin, Grand Corbin-Despagne and Monbousquet. The demoted growths from the status of Great Classified Growth to Great Growth are: Chateaux Bellevue, Cadet Bon, Faurie de Souchard, Guadet Saint-Julien, La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Belivier), La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Moueix), Lamarzelle, Petite Faurie de Soutard, Tertre Daugay, Villemaurine and Yon-Figeac. If the recent samples of some of the above mentioned properties may justify their current downgrade, there are great chances that estates like Bellevue, Tertre Daugay or Yon-Figeac will be upgraded to their previous rankings by the next revision in 2016 as the progresses noted after 2000, but not entering in the range of vintages (1993 - 2002) appointed for the criteria of selection for the 2006 classification, are noticable. The two following estates have completely disappeared from the Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classification: Curé-Bon-la-Madeleine (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Canon) and La Clusière (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Pavie). Finally, no estate considered as "garagiste" has integrated the classification. Valandraud, Mondotte, Le Dome, Bellevue-Mondotte or Magrez-Fombrauge have, for the least, the potential to be ranked as Great Classified Growths. In sight of the very fine quality reached by the above mentioned estates in recent vintages as well as all the innovative wine making methods used by the "garagistes", it remains to be seen whether the authorities will dare to cross the line in 2016..? St. Émilion Grand CruLes Vins de St. Émilion (Syndicate Vitocole de Saint-Emilion) – Read about St. EmilionVins de Bordeaux: Grape Varieties: Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot Soil: Sandy soils with alluvial gravel deposits Surface Area: 4,160 ha |