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| Community Tasting Notes (average 91.2 pts. and median of 91 pts. in 31 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by LukesVather on 2/12/2024 & rated 92 points: Best fit between acidity and sweetness. Spätlese at its best. (341 views) | | | Tasted by NoTrollingerPlease on 6/5/2022: Lunch (Schwarzwaldstube, Tonbach): Menu wine pairing: Very fresh and youthful bottle. Wonderful integrated, ripe but electrifying acidity that balanced the residual sugar well. Very delicious and joyful to drink. 91 (1336 views) | | | Tasted by vintage_whine on 2/16/2022: a little disappointing, felt heavier, without the brilliance of a great wine from this producer or even a great Saar Riesling from a cooler vintage. fruit and tartness were all there, golden tones to the apricot and black currant, but it was pretty 1-D (1067 views) | | | Tasted by burgund on 10/21/2021 & rated 91 points: Qiute yellow, orange peel in nose, medium lenght (1227 views) | | | Tasted by PeterMole on 9/15/2020: Cork wet, through. Complex nose, melon, white fruit. Fuller than 2009. More acid? More balanced than 2009. Very good. After 2 hours in bottle less acid, more flat, a bit sweeter tha before. This was my favorite amut now 2011?ong opening, b (1925 views) | | | Tasted by NoTrollingerPlease on 7/24/2020 & rated 90 points: 10 years after Riesling tasting - 2010 (Restaurant Holz und Feuer, Kirchheim, Germany): *** brief impression from tasting event, no detailed tasting note ***
Glass: Gabriel Standard and Sophienwald Bordeaux
Popped and poured. No notes taken. 90+ (2373 views) | | | Tasted by JesperR on 6/20/2018: Bottle 2 of 3. 4 yrs since last. I can remember thinking this was a complete and utter wonder upon release. I'm no longer so sure about that. This came out very austere, even a bit clumsy, almost disjointed, unbalanced at the very least. Agree with last taster RolfT. Seemingly no faults, but even so, judgement reserved. (2998 views) | | | Tasted by RolfT on 5/5/2018 & rated 88 points: Still very sweet, but with austere acidity, yet feels unbalanced. Slight oxidative note makes me wonder about its long term potential. (2455 views) | | | Tasted by m_arcon on 5/27/2017 & rated 90 points: Keller Open Afterparty (Weingut Keller): From Magnum. Very ripe in style. Yellow stone fruit, a bit of vanilla and honey on the nose. Ripe and unusual sweet for a Zilliken from this cooler vintage. David Rayer from Mosel Fine Wines who was sitting next to me, told me that the 2010 from Zilliken are in a kind of a "down phase" at the moment. Would give it 5-10 years. (3022 views) | | | Tasted by Stevelayden on 3/27/2016 & rated 94 points: AP 8 11. Wonderful Spatlese from a phenomenal vintage. Lower acid than I would expect from this vintage, but superbly well integrated. Almost overripe fruit, but very clean and no trace of botrytis. Barely any secondary characteristics yet (compared to the Donnhoff 2010s) and tastes like it could have been made yesterday. Beautiful! (3135 views) | | | Tasted by NoTrollingerPlease on 3/6/2016 & rated 89 points: Hmm, strange. To be honest not my wine even if I adore Mr. Zilliken. Lacks of complexity and length. Quite ripe notes. Bad phase? Maybe, but my last 2010 bottles were the same. Really good wine, but nothing special and not worth the price tag. Will se what the next bottles were telling. (2808 views) | | | Tasted by RolfT on 12/14/2015 & rated 92 points: Nose is like a dry but rich GG with lots of minerality remeniscent of the Volxem wines I've tried.
On palate, distinct fresh peaches. The 2010 acidity cuts through the (almost) auslese sweetness like a knife - great balance and integration despite the piercing acidity of vintage - light with a long lemony finish. Has the slightest greenish hint which agressively tickles your throat - but this will fade with some more time in cellar.
You can enjoy this now or store and wait 5-10 years for it to slim down a bit. (2373 views) | | | Tasted by RolfT on 6/1/2015 & rated 93 points: This is not a dessert style sweet wine. This is a very refreshing and extremely delicious wine with lots of acidity that perfectly balances with the sweetness. A huge eye opener for me with regards to sweet wine. (2554 views) | | | Tasted by Herschel Krustofski on 9/15/2014: Nice. Feels sweeter than usual. Perhaps could use a bit more depth/complexity to stand up for the sugar.
[J&B German Riesling tasting] (2343 views) | | | Tasted by hajoha on 4/6/2014 & rated 90 points: Noe grønt og umodent til å begynne med, men legger på seg og kommer seg veldig etter en stund i glasset. (1843 views) | | | Tasted by kandyman on 8/22/2013 & rated 93 points: Phenomenal balance of acidity, tropical fruit and minerality. Elegant and balanced. (2091 views) | | | Tasted by EndreS on 7/21/2013 & rated 90 points: Typisk mosel-spätlese. Eple, lime, og floralitet. Nydelig sødme og herlig - men ekstremt tydelig - sitronsyre hele veien - spesielt tydelig i finish. Flott balanse, til tross for årgangstypisk syre. Svært bra lengde. Fyldig og fin munnfølelse, men lett - tilnærmet "vektløs". Delikat. (1719 views) | | | Tasted by Nomen Nescio on 7/9/2013 & rated 94 points: Out f-ing standing en varm sommarkväll i juli. Väl kyld med en gnutta restsötma passade bra som rent kontemplationsvin. Intensiv doft och smak. Så gott till lite jordgubbar och lantchips (gräslök/peppar). Varför varför varför har jag bara en kvar... (1754 views) | | | Tasted by Jasper Hofman on 5/27/2013 & rated 93 points: Drop-dead-gorgeous. So pure and fresh with razorsharp but precise Saar acidity, delicate noble rot and greath length, tastes almost dry despite high residual sugar. This one will last for decades I assume and I could recommend all riesling lovers to buy & stock this wine. (1338 views) | | | Tasted by torciaumana on 8/3/2012 & rated 90 points: Giovanissimo, una spremuta di agrumi con acidità e residuo zuccherino perfettamente bilanciati (1808 views) | | | Tasted by -E- on 1/31/2012 & rated 91 points: Lys strågul med grønnskjær. Søtlig duft av Hylleblomst, lime og toner av stikkelsbær. Glatt og Leskende i munnen med en saftig frukt. Spiss og intens syre som balanseres flott av en tilsvarende høy sødme. (98g/l ) Flott, lang syrlig ettersmak. (1462 views) | | | Tasted by Biggsy on 7/4/2011 & rated 91 points: Pale lemon yellow. The nose is lighter and more mineralic than the Ockfener Bockstein. Pure and vibrant with sweet, ripe fruit. The entry is full of peach, pear and apple fruit which becomes richer and more tropical with a luscious mango and papaya note on the finish. Lovely. (2050 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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JancisRobinson.com (9/15/2014)
(Forstmeister Geltz Zilliken, Saarburger Rausch Riesling Spätlese Saar White) Subscribe to see review text. | By Joel B. Payne
Vinous, January/February 2012, IWC Issue #160
(Forstmeister Geltz-Zilliken Saarburger Rausch Riesling Spatlese #8) Subscribe to see review text. | By Jean Fisch and David Rayer
Mosel Fine Wines, Vintage Report 2010, Review by Estate - Part I, Issue #16 (7/1/2011)
(Geltz-Zilliken Saarburger Rausch Riesling Spätlese) Login and sign up and see review text. | By Jancis Robinson, MW
JancisRobinson.com (6/15/2011)
(Forstmeister Geltz Zilliken, Saarburger Rausch No 8 Riesling Spätlese Saar White) Subscribe to see review text. | By Michael Schmidt
JancisRobinson.com (4/29/2011)
(Forstmeister Geltz Zilliken, Saarburger Rausch Riesling Erste Lage Spätlese Saar White) Subscribe to see review text. | By John Gilman
View From the Cellar, Mar/Apr 2011, Issue #32, The 2010 German Vintage: High Sugars, Higher Acidity and the Lowest Yields in Recent Memory
(Rausch Riesling Spätlese AP #8- Weingut Geltz-Zilliken) Login and sign up and see review text. | By David Furer, CWE
Sommelier Journal, April 15, 2012
(Weingut Forstmeister Geltz-Zilliken Riesling Spätlese Saarburger Rausch Erste Lage) A contradictory wine, with a simultaneously intense and restrained, mineral nose. The palate is understated and tightly wound, but the closed finish hints at a plethora of buried fruit flavors. Great aging potential; needs at least five more years of aging. The Saar: Forging Its Own Path |
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#2014 Vintage Notes:
2014 Vintage Report by Terry Theise
2014 Vintage Report by Wine Spectator
"My gut still tells me the Saar (and to some extent) the Ruwer are better overall in 2014 than the more storied areas of the Mosel proper, but those that spent the requisite time living in their middle-Mosel vineyards made some of the most electric and "feathery" Riesling in a long time (maybe the finest in 20 years - yes, it's true!)" - Jon Rimmerman (Of course only a very short historical memory would call the Saar and Ruwer less 'storied' than the middle Mosel - jht)Mosel Saar RuwerStarting in 2007 the German wine authorities have changed labeling laws to rename all of the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wines to just "Mosel." This puts this and other database driven sites in a difficult spot, as millions of old wine label reflect the former labeling. As described here, CellarTracker has elected to remain with the old labeling for a number of years to avoid confusion. At some point we will switch over to just "Mosel" but not for a few years at least.
Mosel WeinKulturland (Moselwein e.V.)
Detailed geographical information at weinlagen.info
#2018 Vintage Notes:
"Acid levels are relatively low throughout Riesling-growing Europe (acidification will once again be permitted in Germany – no surprise, as that’s been the case in eight of the last 10 vintages); but because malic acid was baked off or degraded by relentlessly balmy weather means, what acid remains is overwhelmingly of the efficacious tartaric sort. Extract levels are low, as one would anticipate from a growing season during which relatively little moisture was coursing through the vine’s roots and shoots. [...] Everyone is astonished how there could have been so much juice despite the drought." - David Schildknecht
"2018 is a homogenous vintage with a very high general level, below which it seldom falls [...] It leads with blossom. It is perhaps 80% delicious and 20% fascinating." - Terry Theise
#2017 Vintage Notes:
"not so friendly towards light wines" - Milkmansteve
#2016 Vintage Notes: "Overall, 2016 is a charmer of a vintage with much immediate ripe and fruity appeal, not unlike 2011 (in fresher) or 2007 (in lighter). However, 2016 is far from being homogeneous, in fact it is composed of a mosaic of vintages, a result of the freakish growing conditions. Hidden inside the vintage, there are true gems with the balance of 1997, one of the best vintages ever, 2002 or even 2008. The bulk of the harvest was brought in with refreshingly moderate sugar levels. Overall, the Saar and Ruwer produced slightly fresher wines than the Middle Mosel but there are great differences between Estates. The good harvest conditions allowed for some Auslese, little BA and even TBA wines, but some remarkably pure and fruity Eiswein.
In general, 2016 offers the opportunity to acquire Riesling with great immediate ripe appeal: The vintage is a true charmer. At the top, 2016 is one of the most exciting and elegantly balanced vintage since the 1990s and well-worth stocking up for cellaring! In particular, we urge our readers to literally plunge onto the finest Kabinett and Spätlese: These are some of the most exciting and classic we have ever tasted. 2016 looks also set to become a major vintage for dry Riesling, provided the aromatics are not overripe. Lovers of dessert wines will find much to love in 2016 as the Auslese are pure and the Eiswein are gorgeously fruity. They should however also keep an eye open for the remaining stunning noble-sweet wines from 2015 which are still available here and there." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 36, July 2017
#2014 Vintage Notes:
"The heterogeneity of the 2014 vintage carries over onto the aging process. The top wines start to close down, as one would expect from these wines which are a remake of those from the 1990s. The wines affected by gin, saffron and mushroom flavors are still comparatively open and offer a not unattractive Scheurebe styled fruit opulence. We would opt to drink up these lesser wines except for the odd bottle and bury the little treasures of the vintage deep into the cellar." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 30, March 2016
#2013 Vintage Notes:
"The fruity-styled 2013 wines have firmed up significantly since last year and start to show signs of closing down, making the underlying acidity seemingly sharp and out of balance. The better dry wines have come out of their early armor of smoke and tannin but the acidity may prove quite challenging. Quite frankly, except for some smaller bottlings, this is a vintage to lay down and wait." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2012 Vintage Notes:
"The 2012 wines have put on some flesh and go through a 'fattier' phase which is not unlike what the 2007 went through at the same period. However, the zestier acidity cuts through this 'weight' and makes the wines thoroughly enjoyable at this early stage. In particular the fruity Kabinett and Spatlese as well as the off-dry and dry wines offer much pleasure. We expect these wines to close down over the coming year or two. Enjoy while it lasts!" - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2011 Vintage Notes:
"A bit to our surprise, the 2011 wines have shut down and go through a quite difficult and muted phase now. Their low acidity combined with their maturity makes them feel rich, opulent and often bulky, and thus not really enjoyable. We expect that these will need at least a decade to integrate their sweetness and gain in harmony. The only exception is the dry wines, whose low acidity makes for great food companionship." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2010 Vintage Notes:
"After a mellower period in 2012, many 2010 wines have firmed up and developed a stronger smoky side. However, most continue to shine through their fruit opulence, structure and deliciously zesty but ripe acidity. This suits in particular the off-dry bottlings, which have more charm than the legally dry wines. Will these wines close down? Actually, the softening acidity makes us wonder now but it also provides further evidence that these wines will turn out harmonious after all." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2009 Vintage Notes:
"Most 2009 wines have closed down, which accentuates their round and soft side forward. Many can still be quite enjoyable but the times of primary fruit with its attractive aromatic expression and a generous acidic kick are now over. Except for the dry wines, we would definitely recommend keeping your hands off any bottle in your cellar and possibly buying more wines from this vintage on the market as these are true gems in the making." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015 |
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