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| ||Tasted by THT on 3/7/2015 & rated 92 points: Magnifique bouteille qui m'a fait peur au début car bouchon très difficile à extraire. Il était en miette et j'ai du carafes. Le vin d'abord d'une couleur légère, tuilee, a pris de la profondeur avec le temps. Superbe vin à maturité, bien qu'il en ait encore sous la pédale. Cèdre, épices, cuir, mais avec encore du fruit. Le corps est d'une grande classe, à la fois fondu mais encore de la puissance. Superbe ! (1565 views)|
| ||Tasted by fatfishzsy on 2/28/2015 & rated 89 points: 香气中有一丝果酱，酸度不错，有后香，单宁高，紧致，酒体重。 (1594 views)|
| ||Tasted by SimonG on 1/14/2015 & rated 92 points: St Emillion First Growths (Chez Bruce, London): A touch more mineral on the nose than the Angelus. Mid weight and nicely rounded. Fully mature and maybe even losing its fruit slightly. Damp earth. Fresh and quite minerally. Very drinkable. **** (1880 views)|
| ||Tasted by DAN BAILEY on 1/14/2015: Immediately softer, more supple entry but still rich, dark, coffee notes fading to a very slightly dry finish. Really quite lovely! (1719 views)|
| ||Tasted by MEKWINE on 1/14/2015 & rated 90 points: chez Bruce, 1st growths, Saint Emilion. Surprisingly good and beyond expectations. Minerals and undergrowth, hints of soft, ripe fruits and a medium to long finish. (1665 views)|
| ||Tasted by alexdoug on 12/29/2014 & rated 94 points: Mis en carafe pendant 4 heures. Nez incroyablement vivant. |
Corps superbe, compléxité toujours présente. Long et puissant à la fois.
Un réel plaisir. (511 views)
| ||Tasted by RussK on 10/25/2014 & rated 90 points: Russk K&A's Group at Vienna Cafe. Still tight. Not sure why every goes nuts about these. (747 views)|
| ||Tasted by Flavito on 7/26/2014 & rated 95 points: Perfectly mature, velvety and elegant, from the good old days of the Valette family. Nothing to do with the recent crap that they turn out! (1021 views)|
| ||Tasted by red_man on 5/26/2014 & rated 94 points: good level (lowermost neck) and excellent cork, kept in air-conditioned cellar since purchase at release, some brown at rim, fine, classy nose, palate has class, strength, lovely fine fruit flavour, great length and balance, so good that stopped drinking it with dinner and just savoured it alone after, at its peak, nothing to be gained by further cellaring but certainly not over the hill, may depend on cellaring conditions but this bottle was just lovely and still has remarkable power (1085 views)|
| ||Tasted by sdprod on 4/23/2014 & rated 85 points: Agree with Kriz. probably well past its peak.|
Had a distinct watery magenta color upon decanting, clouded up significantly as well.
Thankfully smell and taste were not as bad as appearance - which frankly appalled me
Wine was reasonably complex for its age and showed better over a couple of hours.
Thankfully I only had one bottle
Certainly drinkable but nothing special (1213 views)
| ||Tasted by Kriz on 3/22/2014 & rated 80 points: 2 cm below cork and slightly brown. On the nose green tones, vegatables and smokeyness. Hard and green on the palate. Not very nice and far over it's peak. Where I doubt if the peak was that high... I'm sorry to say but it's worse than I expected when I saw the other notes on CT (1237 views)|
| ||Tasted by Goldstone on 10/14/2013 & rated 89 points: Drank between three of us over a Churchill cigar on the deck of NiQ's new house on the Peak. Popped and poured then drank over a long leisurely conversation. Colour is deep and opaque ruby red but with a bit of dustiness hanging in there. Nose is classic and fully mature St. Emilion.....captivating intitially but well short of mesmerising. Palate was full, rich and laden with ripe belly-filling black and red fruits that is so typical of the 1989 vintage. This trupmpter only plays one tune, which is disappointing because there are a lot of notes hidden in there. Disappointingly short on length and resonance for what you would expect from the vintage. Overall, this came across as a rather over-mature 1989 Bordeaux of its class...which I'd put down to the individual bottle. Would love to try again because there was a lot there hidden away. But need to bear in mid that this is a vintage long before Gerard Perse elevated the estate. Thanks NiQ! (1818 views)|
| ||Tasted by Wine_lvr on 4/19/2013 & rated 87 points: Bordeaux 1989 Horizontal Tasting (Zurich): Oxidative and herbal notes, tobacco. Acidity is present. Despite some present and pleasant fruit, all is a bit short and simple. Past its peak. (2790 views)|
| ||Tasted by W&FS Cellar Chair on 5/7/2012: B: Excellent ripeness and extract. Among the most powerful Pavie in two decades. Tasted at the winery 3/15/1990 (3213 views)|
| ||Tasted by Brsed on 4/14/2012 & rated 92 points: At Goosefoot - no formal notes. I have not owned this bottle from its "birth" so I was nervous. No need though, it was terrific. Incredibly silky with cherries and a touch of earth and spice. (3120 views)|
| ||Tasted by Educated Palette on 11/21/2011 & rated 92 points: Wine was slightly cloudy with a medium + intensity. Garnet coloer with a brown water rim. The nose had a surprizing medium plus intensity primarily tobacco and leather but some fruit. It was fully developed but not pass its peak. On the palette there was black cherryand plum, tobacco, leather, and a hint of chocolate on the finish. The acidity was still remarkable on this wine ad the tannis were silky and well intergrated. Overall an excenllent wine delightful to concume! (3696 views)|
| ||Tasted by PinkMoonWinery on 9/16/2011 & rated 89 points: Great wine at the loser's place (Otti this time) (Winterthur): Chocolate powder, Warm nose, leather, forest wood some orange zest a bit rough on the edges but very good in general. (3750 views)|
| ||Tasted by llew on 8/7/2011 & rated 88 points: swell (2829 views)|
| ||Tasted by Khamen on 12/11/2010 & rated 90 points: No mistaking the warm chocolatey ooze of a big right-banker here. I don't mean big in terms of an extra-ripe/over-extracted merlot bomb however as the fruit here is actually remarkably demure. What it does posess is a full-bodied, creamy palate and some plump but healthy fruit. I hate to say it as it sounds a litte derogatory for a PGCC from a good vintage but the word that springs to mind is "charming". (2993 views)|
| ||Tasted by Rupert on 6/8/2010 & rated 89 points: Chateau Pavie vertical 1959 to 2006 (Institute of Directors, London): Less on the nose than the 90, but rich, exotic (again) and substantial and altogether rather better, though still not very exciting (3875 views)|
| ||Tasted by Jeff Leve on 6/14/2009 & rated 88 points: The perfume of tobacco, spice, earth, and truffle was a pleasure to smell. But the wine was simple, lacking the same level of depth, excitement, and intensity found in the wines made at the property today. This bottle was served to me blind by Jean-Luc Thunevin. After tasting the wine and expressing my thoughts, Jean-Luc called 89 Pavie, “a wine of terroir”. I asked if that was good or bad in this case. With his impish grin, he slyly smiled and said “both’. (3181 views)|
| ||Tasted by vespasian on 5/13/2009 & rated 92 points: Dense core - garnet/ruby with a slight orange rim; Sweet cedar on nose with chocolate, smoke and wood spice; On palate underlying core of dusky plum fruits. Good weight and lovely texture. Finishes with cocoa powder. Licorice and Anise also. Aging nicely and potentially could be better in 3-5 years. (3607 views)|
| ||Tasted by Mark on 1/4/2009 & rated 94 points: This is the oldest Pavie in my collection and was purchased at teh KaDeWe store in Berlin and brought back in my carry on luggage. Outstanding bottle that has done very well over time. Very good on open, but an hour in the decanter really made this bottle shine. Clear tobacco and leather, smoke and spice, after an hour, the nose developed further and the wine became fatter sweater and more round in the mouth. Drank well for three hours then began to deteriorate rapidly. Don't over decant this, let it stand an hour then enjoy. (3740 views)|
| ||Tasted by vespasian on 12/19/2008 & rated 94 points: Ruby/garnet core fading to a garnet rim with slight bricking. Extremely complex on the nose. Black olives, soy, smoky sweet spice, cherry fruits - it really is incredible. Medium bodied on the palate - delicious continuation of the complexity on the nose. Outstanding hedonistic wine. Beautiful drinking now. (3709 views)|
| ||Tasted by tendring on 11/27/2008 & rated 89 points: Still quite red, but showing age.|
Plenty of development on the nose, some unspecific fruit.
Delicious, reasonable balance (a little clouded), good in the mouth and great length. (3643 views)
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Winedoctor, February 2001
(Chateau Pavie St Emilion) A deep mahogany red. Delightful and elegant fruit. Rich palate, with a creamy texture, an elegant vein of tannins, and good balanced acidity. A superb, structured wine. Ready for drinking now. 18 points
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Saint Emilion Grat Classified Growth, Classified Growths, Grands Crus Classes, GCC
In 1954, while the "Graves" growths had just published their own classification, the wine syndicate of Saint-Emilion, composed by wine growers, brokers and wine traders with the approval of the INAO - Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (A.O.C), decided to work on a classification for the wines of Saint Emilion. Initially, four grades were defined. These were reduced to two - First Great Classified Growth (A and B) and Great Classified Growth - in 1984.
As of Medoc's 1855 historical grading, the Saint-Emilion Great Classified Growth classification is not only based on qualitative criteria by tasting the wines on a ten years period previous to the assessment, but also on commercial considerations such as:
- sales price levels
- national and international commercial distribution
- the estate's reputation on the market
Properties who don't manage to join the club of about sixty Classified Growths are given the denomination of Great Growth ("Grand Cru"), while the remaining wineries of the A.O.C are simply reported as "Saint-Emilion". It is to be noted that the owners must officially apply to appear in the official classification. Thus for example the famous Chateau Tertre-Roteboeuf, whose quality and reputation would easily justify to be listed among the First Great Classified Growths, does not appear here by the will of its owner, François Mitjaville.
The Saint-Emilion Great Growth classification was revised in 1969, 1985, 1996 and 2006. The only two guaranteed vintage (A.O.C) who can apply to the classification are the "Saint-Emilion Grand Cru" and "Saint-Emilion" areas.
By grading 61 properties, the 2006 revision confirmed many growths from the former classification, but also caused a number of surprises and a few inevitable disappointments. Many observers thought that the impressive progression of Perse's Chateau Pavie since 1998 would be rewarded by an upgrade into the First Great Classified Growths (A) category, but finally such was not the case.
Among the estates promoted to the First Great Classified Growths B category are Chateau Troplong-Mondot and Pavie-Macquin, whose efforts made since the Nineties fully justify their new grade. It should be noted that no First Great Classified Growth was relegated to the lower Great Classified Growth class.
Promoted growths from the status of Great Growth ("Grand Cru") to Great Classified Growth ("Grand Cru Classe") are: Chateaux Bellefont-Belcier, Destieux, Fleur Cardinale, Grand Corbin, Grand Corbin-Despagne and Monbousquet.
The demoted growths from the status of Great Classified Growth to Great Growth are: Chateaux Bellevue, Cadet Bon, Faurie de Souchard, Guadet Saint-Julien, La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Belivier), La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Moueix), Lamarzelle, Petite Faurie de Soutard, Tertre Daugay, Villemaurine and Yon-Figeac. If the recent samples of some of the above mentioned properties may justify their current downgrade, there are great chances that estates like Bellevue, Tertre Daugay or Yon-Figeac will be upgraded to their previous rankings by the next revision in 2016 as the progresses noted after 2000, but not entering in the range of vintages (1993 - 2002) appointed for the criteria of selection for the 2006 classification, are noticable.
The two following estates have completely disappeared from the Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classification: Curé-Bon-la-Madeleine (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Canon) and La Clusière (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Pavie).
Finally, no estate considered as "garagiste" has integrated the classification. Valandraud, Mondotte, Le Dome, Bellevue-Mondotte or Magrez-Fombrauge have, for the least, the potential to be ranked as Great Classified Growths. In sight of the very fine quality reached by the above mentioned estates in recent vintages as well as all the innovative wine making methods used by the "garagistes", it remains to be seen whether the authorities will dare to cross the line in 2016..?
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