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| ||Tasted by FransS on 9/28/2014 & rated 93 points: Twice, see my previous notes, I considered this wine as nearly too old.|
This time, we were invited by our friends Pieter and José (she is from '67), we have tasted two terrific bottles, the first, the '67 Fonseca's Pasmados and the second one, this Pavie. Everything in this wine was in the right place with the right components. The colour was ripe, but lively, the nose was also ripe but still fresh and deep and in the medium bodied taste there was no sign of decay. Creamy, some chocolat; an experience. (577 views)
| ||Tasted by FransS on 8/25/2014 & rated 88 points: Yesterday I have surprised a friend of mine (born in '67) with this wine. After popping the wine was light and brown coloured, but after an hour the wine has gained in depth and colour (brown rim and a sound core with some red in it), the nose was delicate with some sweet aspects (added sugar), in the taste some overripeness, but overall very nice, but past its prime. (662 views)|
| ||Tasted by FransS on 3/10/2013 & rated 87 points: Yesterday I thought that 75 points would be the maximum, but today I noticed a kind of resurrection. Now only at the end of the aftertaste some metallic taste shows age, but the wine has a nicely balanced taste, just enough body and a friendly, ripe bouquet. Once this wine was absolutely more convincing. Still this wine is nice to taste. (1994 views)|
| ||Tasted by City Wine Journal on 11/29/2010 & rated 90 points: Not on par with the 1966, but a captivating nose on opening, and still holding red fruit under the smoky leather and earth. A touch dirty, this bottle. But one of the better '67s still around. (3905 views)|
| ||Tasted by Tree512 on 4/13/2006 & rated 93 points: Almost identical to the bottle I opened two weeks earlier. Remarkably dark and rich for a wine of its age and vintage, with beautiful sweetness of fruit. I only have one more bottle, but it will certainly keep for a while. (6777 views)|
| ||Tasted by Tree512 on 4/1/2006 & rated 93 points: Sneaky and subtley delicious. Beautiful although small on opening, it broadend with exposure to air with beautful red fruits, loads of cedar and herbs, and a very balanced and long but soft finish. Extremely good for a 1967, continuing to show me that 1967s, especially on the right bank, certainly outperform most expectations. (6384 views)|
| ||Tasted by bacchus on 10/1/2004: this wine has so many memories attached. 1967 was the second commercial vintage of french wine in my tasting experience and pavie was one of the wines i studied in depth at the time. then there was the treacherous drive up the mountainside road with no guard rail, this being my first experience driving a stick shift. this bottle was purchased at a hublein auction in washington,d.c. from auctioneer, michael broadbent. the intention was to serve at the wedding of one of my children or perhaps at another significant family gathering. i brought the wine up from the cellar for my 60th birthday, only to find that the cork was inside the bottle and the wine was being contained by the metal foil. label staining indicated significant ullage. the bottle remained perhaps 80% full. i have hesitated posting this note since there were no other reviews available with which to compare. my impression, at the time, was that despite suffering significantly from the exposure to the air, some fruit had still been preserved, suggesting that an intact bottle would still offer significant vinous pleasure. what a thrill to see that my suspicions were correct as reflected in the recent note of another member. although 1967 was not considered to be a great vintage overall, the wines of st. emilion, and pavie in particular, obviously did very well. i have not entered a rating so as not to skew statistics but a sound bottle is surely worth at least 90 points. (6490 views)|
| ||Tasted by Anonymous on 12/28/1998 & rated 86 points: Pre Auction Wine Tasting w/ lots of Bordeauxs (NYC): Tasted from magnum. Medium red, with a garnet rim. Funky, mature Bordeaux nose. Slight volatility? Still alive, if a bit skunky. (4361 views)|
| ||Tasted by bacchus on 1/1/1976 & rated 92 points: another great bottle. (5344 views)|
| ||Tasted by bacchus on 1/1/1975 & rated 92 points: oh to be young again. this was delicious. how wonderfult to see notes from 2006 indicating that the wine is still alive. (5653 views)|
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Saint Emilion Grat Classified Growth, Classified Growths, Grands Crus Classes, GCC
In 1954, while the "Graves" growths had just published their own classification, the wine syndicate of Saint-Emilion, composed by wine growers, brokers and wine traders with the approval of the INAO - Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (A.O.C), decided to work on a classification for the wines of Saint Emilion. Initially, four grades were defined. These were reduced to two - First Great Classified Growth (A and B) and Great Classified Growth - in 1984.
As of Medoc's 1855 historical grading, the Saint-Emilion Great Classified Growth classification is not only based on qualitative criteria by tasting the wines on a ten years period previous to the assessment, but also on commercial considerations such as:
- sales price levels
- national and international commercial distribution
- the estate's reputation on the market
Properties who don't manage to join the club of about sixty Classified Growths are given the denomination of Great Growth ("Grand Cru"), while the remaining wineries of the A.O.C are simply reported as "Saint-Emilion". It is to be noted that the owners must officially apply to appear in the official classification. Thus for example the famous Chateau Tertre-Roteboeuf, whose quality and reputation would easily justify to be listed among the First Great Classified Growths, does not appear here by the will of its owner, François Mitjaville.
The Saint-Emilion Great Growth classification was revised in 1969, 1985, 1996 and 2006. The only two guaranteed vintage (A.O.C) who can apply to the classification are the "Saint-Emilion Grand Cru" and "Saint-Emilion" areas.
By grading 61 properties, the 2006 revision confirmed many growths from the former classification, but also caused a number of surprises and a few inevitable disappointments. Many observers thought that the impressive progression of Perse's Chateau Pavie since 1998 would be rewarded by an upgrade into the First Great Classified Growths (A) category, but finally such was not the case.
Among the estates promoted to the First Great Classified Growths B category are Chateau Troplong-Mondot and Pavie-Macquin, whose efforts made since the Nineties fully justify their new grade. It should be noted that no First Great Classified Growth was relegated to the lower Great Classified Growth class.
Promoted growths from the status of Great Growth ("Grand Cru") to Great Classified Growth ("Grand Cru Classe") are: Chateaux Bellefont-Belcier, Destieux, Fleur Cardinale, Grand Corbin, Grand Corbin-Despagne and Monbousquet.
The demoted growths from the status of Great Classified Growth to Great Growth are: Chateaux Bellevue, Cadet Bon, Faurie de Souchard, Guadet Saint-Julien, La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Belivier), La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Moueix), Lamarzelle, Petite Faurie de Soutard, Tertre Daugay, Villemaurine and Yon-Figeac. If the recent samples of some of the above mentioned properties may justify their current downgrade, there are great chances that estates like Bellevue, Tertre Daugay or Yon-Figeac will be upgraded to their previous rankings by the next revision in 2016 as the progresses noted after 2000, but not entering in the range of vintages (1993 - 2002) appointed for the criteria of selection for the 2006 classification, are noticable.
The two following estates have completely disappeared from the Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classification: Curé-Bon-la-Madeleine (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Canon) and La Clusière (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Pavie).
Finally, no estate considered as "garagiste" has integrated the classification. Valandraud, Mondotte, Le Dome, Bellevue-Mondotte or Magrez-Fombrauge have, for the least, the potential to be ranked as Great Classified Growths. In sight of the very fine quality reached by the above mentioned estates in recent vintages as well as all the innovative wine making methods used by the "garagistes", it remains to be seen whether the authorities will dare to cross the line in 2016..?
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