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 Vintage2005
TypeRed
ProducerBodegas y Viñedos de Murcia
VarietyRed Blend
DesignationSierra Carche
Vineyardn/a
CountrySpain
RegionMurcia
SubRegionn/a
AppellationJumilla
UPC Code(s)858828001248

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2010 and 2021 (based on 16 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Bodegas y Vinedos de Murcia Jumilla Crianza Sierra Carche on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 87.1 pts. and median of 89 pts. in 141 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by ctjared on 3/4/2015: not sure on this. strong tobacco notes, gamey. very different (577 views)
 Tasted by salil on 11/20/2014 & rated 50 points: Third Thursday blind tasting group - Mourvedre's (Mike's) (11/20/2014): Hands down, one of the worst wines I've ever tried. I hated this when poured blind. I tried revisiting it a few times later after it was unveiled to see if some redeeming qualities may have developed with air, but nope. To call this a mess is an undeserved compliment. This is a caricature of wine. The fruit's grotesquely ripe and candied, red fruited but with a strong confected and raisiny character, and there are strange oaky, burnt rubber, and plastic-like accents that only get worse with air. The palate is brutally tannic, extracted, and alcoholic, and the finish lasts far longer than I wish it would. My initial assessment of this was "DNPIM." I'm not yet sure why I revisited it, but DNPIM seemed like the right call. (1389 views)
 Tasted by indiscriminate palate on 11/20/2014 & rated 55 points: Mourvedre (TTTG blind tasting): Medium ruby color. On open, nose of ripe blackberry and dark cherry, herbs, and oak spice. Palate of oaky, roasted black fruit, and Twizzlers. Not much tannin, medium acidity, and a short-medium slightly bitter finish. Even 12 hours later, this was a ridiculously overdone, atrocious, overly extracted, horribly crappy wine. Despite the curiosity factor, well over half the bottle was left after the tasting. Without mincing words, it sucked.

For those for whom decoding the Sierra Carche saga is meaningful, this is bottle 18230 with back label code L-8114. I suspect that these codes only reveal different degrees of suck. Sadly, I suspect that this is a "good" bottle.

For science, I had a few sips two days later, alongside the bigger, richer, 2007 L'Aventure. The Carche was atrocious, undrinkable, and without a redeeming feature. No "standard" flaws, but if there were a "worst Spanish wine under $5" prize, this should win easily, were it not for the for the Jay Miller tax. (891 views)
 Tasted by GalvezGuy on 7/25/2014 & rated 86 points: Popped and poured. Decent nose of black fruit and anise. On the palate, black fruits, melted licorice, menthol, hints of red cherry. Short finish ableit balanced. Last bottle and glad of it, this never did get to anything but serviceable. (1257 views)
 Tasted by cobbpa on 3/9/2014: Used for cooking. Decent nose, fruity up front, short & poor finish. Not great. (1640 views)
 Tasted by jsherdc on 1/4/2014 & rated 91 points: Medium body. Very nice. This has aged well. 91/92 (1597 views)
 Tasted by ccotton8 on 4/22/2013: Bottle No. 13224, knowing the history of this wine and first had in 2007 upon release, I was a little curious as to where this wine was in it's life. The first day I only poured a glass and let the rest slow ox in the bottle. The first glass had a nice nose, with a nice mixture of red fruit and dried herbs. The palate: the good news is that most of the tannins have integrated and astringency is gone, the bad news it tasted like menthol cough syrup, it never changed after checking it for over an hour. I vacuumed sealed the bottle to see what it would be like on day 2.

Day 2, to be a captain obvious...oxygen changes a wine, in this instance it changed it in a way I wasn't expecting. The nose was the same with the red fruits and dried herbs but also got some smokiness...could have been my grilling shirt. The palate was actually structured and not a gloppy mess like on day one. The oxygen caused something to shed off to expose a nice balance of sweet tart acid. The red fruit was the main player all night long, I enjoyed this over several hours. I kept waiting for it to return to the state it was on day 1 but it didn't. Give this a good decant or slow ox it overnight like I did and I think you might pseudo enjoy this. It is by no means a spectacular wine, but it was a pretty wine once it lost it's baby fat. (2485 views)
 Tasted by Vinovelo on 4/1/2013: Perfect accompaniment to grilled leg of lamb with Easter dinner. Decanted for about an hour at which pint it was lush and full. (2394 views)
 Tasted by PSirah Tampa on 11/21/2012 & rated 93 points: This is starting to come together but still needs more time... complex! (2724 views)
 Tasted by NTR on 10/20/2012 & rated 85 points: L-8114 Continuation of the story...clearly not the wine that was presented to reviewers in 07 ( 96 JM, 92 RR)... It was a weak underperforming wine that would suggest a simple mass produced red. The only redeeming value of this wine is that it brings a great story. (2416 views)
 Tasted by cobbpa on 5/6/2012 & rated 79 points: Like a bad $6 Spanish blend...generic red fruit, thin, too tart & too short of a finish. Tried after decanting & corked for next day, but guess I just got one of the false bottles. (2953 views)
 Tasted by gwkozar on 2/18/2012 & rated 87 points: Boyyle # 08046. Decanted for2.5 hours. Great nose of dark plums, dried fruit continued to open for the next 90 minutes with spice. Palate was disappointing with muddled fruit and disappearing tannins. (2626 views)
 Tasted by katgod on 1/15/2012 & rated 93 points: This was bottle 14896 of lot L8113, as some others noticed this is a Bordeaux like wine in that it was dry but the tannins were very smooth and mellow. This had some burnt rubber on the nose initially but like many wines I like to give my wines a couple hours of air in a decanter or glass. The nose had dark strawberries, walnuts, caraway seed, and some tobacco. Palate had spice and nice acidity. I had one of these many years ago and enjoyed it also. I only recently heard about the problems with this wine and wondered if I would agree that it was bad, but fortunately both of these bottles were a great deal. I would gladly buy these wines again if they were available. (2964 views)
 Tasted by megropolis on 12/27/2011: Bottle 03195 of 20,000. Second bottle from 3 I bought before the scandal. Consistently excellent(93?) to my taste. In a blind tasking, I would guess it as modern style bordeaux from recent classic vintage more likely then wine from Spain. (2861 views)
 Tasted by GalvezGuy on 12/19/2011 & rated 87 points: Popped and poured. Nose of black fruit, leather, spice, tar. On the palate black fruit, leather, spice. Short but juicy finish. Nothing terrible about this, but nothing great either. I have had $10 Monastrells that provide more pleasure that this did. Drink or hold. (2777 views)
 Tasted by ctjared on 12/2/2011: Needs some more time. Nose is great, but a bit muddled still. (2757 views)
 Tasted by jsherdc on 8/4/2011 & rated 89 points: Nice Plum fruit. Medium body, very smooth and food friendly. 90 Day 1, was a bit boring day 2. (3605 views)
 Tasted by ParkHill on 6/15/2011 & rated 93 points: Surprise, surprise. Sort of undrinkable a couple years ago, the harsh has eased and intensity has become rich. Tarry, mouth-coating, good strong fruit which hides more than half of the tannins. Bottle 2298 of 20,000, if that helps anyone keep track. These better made Spanish wines really need five or more years before they ease into drinkability. I remember the 2004 Riojas that way, also. (3998 views)
 Tasted by tpspoon on 5/17/2011 & rated 88 points: Opened the first of 3 bottles with great trepidation. Would this be a bad one or a good one? Answer: neither. The wine matched up with some of Dr. Jay's descriptions, but not all. Pencil lead and tar? Yes. Structured, instense? No. Very much a medium-bodied wine, but pretty good flavor. Initial nose was more like paint thinner and didn't exactly "jump from the glass". The most notable shortcoming of the wine was its very short finish. But I did like it overall, and I enjoyed it more and more as I went on. I would have been pleased if I'd spent $15 - $20 on this wine but given I spent $30 and critical acclaim was so high, it was a bit of a (if not expected) disappointment. This doesn't have the stuffing to last much longer as Dr. Jay suggests, so I will drink up the rest within the next year or so. (4117 views)
 Tasted by sieraski on 5/16/2011 & rated 93 points: Fantastic. Rich with hints of tar and blackberries. (4037 views)
 Tasted by dlstrauss on 5/15/2011 & rated 89 points: was an 88 for the first hour or two and then the last glass was a 90. (4030 views)
 Tasted by BABLUES on 2/6/2011 & rated 80 points: tasted blind with 4 other Spanish wines. I thought I nailed this as wine of the night, but grossly missed it. I must have gotten the bad batch. still have one more and expect it to be as bad as this one. A shame!! (4712 views)
 Tasted by ecola on 2/3/2011 & rated 94 points: One of the best wine I have had. Aromas of smokey oak, pencil shavings, and tons of dark berries. The mouth feel is absolute silkiness. So smooth it is hard to describe. Full bodied dark berry flavors explode on the palate and leading to sweet tannins on the finish. The intensity and pureness of the fruit is perfectly balanced without being over the top. A true pleasure to enjoy. ($30) (4548 views)
 Tasted by Kirk Grant on 1/2/2011 & rated 84 points: Another Blind Sunday (Kirk's Apartment): Color: garnet
Smell: Pumpernickel bread, bloody meat, VA, nail polish, dark fruits,
Taste: dark fruits, blueberries, mocha,
Overall: heavy extraction, med body, med acid, med + fruit, a little astringent. (5174 views)
 Tasted by sstoloff on 12/14/2010 & rated 92 points: Guess I got a good one because this was fascinating. The nose kept revealing new layers: tar, menthol, licorice, mulberry bush, rosemary, violets, cola. Less on the palate, on first opening anyway--a couple more years of integration might help smooth the rough edges, though even then the action will be all up front. Overall, quite exciting. (4978 views)
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Professional 'Channels'
By Jeb Dunnuck
The Rhone Report, Bonus Reviews (9/29/2008)
(Bodegas y Viñedos de Murcia Jumilla Sierra Carche) Login and sign up and see review text.   92 points
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2005 Bodegas y Viñedos de Murcia Jumilla Sierra Carche

Varietals: 50% Monastrell, 25% Malbec, 25% Petit Verdot

Does your bottle not live up to its 96-point Wine Advocate (Dr. Jay Miller) score? See Sierra Missed - The Saga of Sierra Carche 2005 for info.

Red Blend

Red Blend is used for any combination of red grapes that does not fit into CellarTracker's preset blends (Red Bordeaux Blend, etc). Actual blend composition for a given wine should be entered under the per wine or per wine vintage wiki articles.

Spain

Vinos de España - Wines of Spain (Instituto Español de Comercio Exterior) | Wikipedia

Spain is the third largest wine producing nation in the world, occupying the majority of the Iberian Peninsula with vast diversity in climate, culture, and of course, wine. From inky, dark reds of the [Priorat] to dry, white Finos from Andalusia, Spain can easily boast of elaborating a wide variety of notable styles. Within Spain there are currently 62 demarcated wine regions, of which a handful have gained international recognition: [Rioja], Priorat and [Ribera del Duero]. Yet these regions are only a small sample of the high quality wines Spain produces. Regions such as Cava, Penedes, Somontano, Galicia, Rueda and Jerez are only a few of the numerous regions worthy of exploration throughout Spain. Spain can also lay claim to having the most land under vine in the world, growing up to, by some accounts, 600 indigenous varietals of which Tempranillo is their most well known. Other popular varietals include [Garnacha], Bobal and Monastrell for reds and for whites; the infamous Palomino Fino grape which is used in the production of sherry wine, Pedro Ximenez in Montilla Morilles, Albarino used in the creation of the bright, effervescent wines of Galicia, and Verdejo in Rueda. - Source: - Catavino.net

Spain is not in the forefront of winemaking for its dessert wines, other than for its sweet wines from Sherry country including the highly revered Olorosos and Amontillados. But apart from Sherry Spain has a range of styles of dessert wines, ranging from the those made from the Pedro Ximenez grape primarily in Jerez and Montilla-Moriles) to luscious, red dessert wines made in the Mediterranean from the Garnacha (Grenache) grape. Some good Moscatels are made in Mallorca, Alicante and Navarre. The northwest corner of Spain, Galicia, with its bitter Atlantic climate, is even making dessert wines, called “Tostadillos” in the village of Ribadivia (similar to France’s “Vin de Paille”). The Canary Islands have made interesting dessert wines for centuries (they are mentioned by Shakespeare, for example) and in recent years the quality of winemaking has been improved and the Canary Islands wines are being better marketed now. The winemaking styles for “Vinos Dulces” are also diverse, from “Late Harvest” (Vendimia Tardía) to “Fortified Wines” (Fermentación Parcial). Based on in-spain.info.

Murcia

Located in Southeastern Spain, the "lost" region of Yecla lies to the east of Jumilla and to the west of Alicante. Fortunately, this region was spared much of the wrath of the phylloxera plague, and many ungrafted and extremely old vines remain. The Yecla region’s progressive leader, Bodegas Castaño, has long been an advocate of the Monastrell varietal, also known as Mourvèdre. The varietal is best regarded for its influence on the wines of Châteauneuf-du-Pape where the terroir and climate is not dissimilar to that of Yecla. Both benefit from a very warm, Mediterranean climate with warm days and nights.

Jumilla

Jumillo DO (Wikipedia)
Appellation Location (Google Maps)
The authorised red grapes are the following:

Monastrell, Tempranillo, (known locally as Cencibel), Garnacha Tintorera, Garnacha, Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, Syrah and Petit Verdot (source=wikipedia, Jumilla)

 
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