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 Vintage2008 Label 1 of 8 
TypeWhite - Off-dry
ProducerFrançois Chidaine (web)
VarietyChenin Blanc
DesignationLe Bouchet
RegionLoire Valley

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2012 and 2026 (based on 10 user opinions)

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 91.7 pts. and median of 92 pts. in 96 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by Vinsant on 6/27/2015: Perfect fair for CR Salmon and risotto. Apple cider, quince, gravel, mead, and chalk on the nose and palate with a light layer of wool over the top of all. In a great place but has some life left. Sweet, savory, and salty all at once. (230 views)
 Tasted by Charlie Carnes on 5/17/2015 flawed bottle: Advanced; really bad. (674 views)
 Tasted by atl10trader on 4/3/2015 & rated 95 points: Luscious. Conversation stopper. Beautiful full mouth richness finishes a glazed pear butter citrus peel symphony of flavors. Deep golden hue. The wine excites all the senses. I must find more. (812 views)
 Tasted by moveablesirkus on 11/28/2014: can't say much has changed since the last bottle (early 2014). the acid has held up well, it still has the 'wool' nose, something that I often mistake for TCA. nice wine. (1156 views)
 Tasted by vino vidi vici on 9/23/2014: Paola's house - New Orleans (1634 views)
 Tasted by Frank Murray III on 9/13/2014: In looking at the last 3 notes below, all 3 talk about the acidity, 2 about how the acidity is lessening. This isn't the case in the bottle I just opened and poured to my glass. There is indeed acidity so not sure what's driving the difference in opinion about the acidity but it's one of the intriguing things I find in how the same wine (bottle variation aside) can appear different for tasters. For context, I have this wine chilled and my palate is clear, no food (yet) with this wine. As I said in my summer 2013, this is such a great drink of chenin. This bottle shows a couple of flavor markers that I didn't call out last time so either age is adjusting the wine or may palate is sensing different things today. Pineapple, green banana, lime, a squeeze of honey and still good mineral and acidity. Inside of all this is some sweetness but it's lower register and offset by the other flavors I mention, mainly the lime. It's just frigging hot here in Orange County this weekend and I look forward to having more of this later by a pool and some good conversation and bbq'd salmon. Drink window? No fade here, just pushing right along. (1938 views)
 Tasted by John Nezlek on 8/31/2014 & rated 88 points: Not much acidity here. No real oxidization, although not fresh. Part of a larger meal, so my impressions are not that string. Not at all sweet. (1708 views)
 Tasted by vino vidi vici on 8/14/2014: Has slimmed down with time. Still has gentle flavors - honey, pineapple, green melon, wool. But the acid has begun to fade, and it doesn't shimmer like it used to. It's too bad, cause that's one of the thrilling qualities of a Chidaine. (1699 views)
 Tasted by moveablesirkus on 8/9/2014: start to drink these up. acid is still there. nice lemon, honey note. but flavors are leaning a bit too heavily towards those oxidation notes for my taste (1447 views)
 Tasted by Seafoam Manor on 7/2/2014 flawed bottle: This had previously had two glasses Coravined from it and it seemed much worse for it. It came across totally out of balance and tasted like the clear part of separated pineapple juice. I don't recall if this was a bad bottle from the start or if it may have turned after the first half was extracted. (1205 views)
 Tasted by Dale M on 5/14/2014 & rated 93 points: Terrific yet once again. At once sad this was my last bottle, but thrilled with the experience. This wine has it all, and would pair with a very wide array of cuisine. (1586 views)
 Tasted by Pknut on 4/23/2014: Three years since my last bottle. This has lost a lot of its baby fat from then. Curious showing. Touches of Chenin wool on a light frame that seems to give the suggestion of a syrupy sweetness, but although there is sweetness here, it's not actually syrupy and the sweetness seems to be swimming amidst this steely acidity in an almost yin-yang like dance. That is way too poetic for a wine that I don't think is especially profound. It's good, but I've had better Chidaines. Perhaps more time in the cellar? This showed best on the third night. (1719 views)
 Tasted by mike l. on 12/8/2013 & rated 92 points: Opened up after a half hour or so to something really special. Lush rich mouthfeel with very balanced palate. Quite good. (1944 views)
 Tasted by christophee on 12/7/2013 & rated 88 points: Clear and lite in the glass. Closed nose of calcium, flowers and citrus. Light body with citrus, flower, melon and slate on the plate. Not delivering the focus and acidity of previous tastings. Improved from 84 to an 88 after opening. Med-short finish. Last bottle and one of a 15 bottle flight at an amazing dinner. Was seriously outclassed by the food and most of the other bottles. Still a solid QPR. (1864 views)
 Tasted by vindictive on 11/20/2013: excellent Vouvray - residual sugar, lovely nose - really should put this down as the acidity should hold it for a long time (1685 views)
 Tasted by chablis28 on 11/18/2013 & rated 92 points: Delicious with depth and energy. (1881 views)
 Tasted by moveablesirkus on 9/28/2013: a really pretty wine--classic honeyed notes, white flowers, some baked apple on the end. just a touch of sweetness. nearly at its peak? (1718 views)
 Tasted by Charlie Carnes on 8/17/2013: This is good. There are hints of lime, tangerine peel, honey, and, beeswax. Tart and succulent, this has a nice feel in the mouth and a refreshing swallow.

So I revisit this for a couple of days and I couldn't help to notice a slight hint of oxidation/advancement. Mind you this was at the end of exactly three days. So it did get a heavy dose of air though it was re-corked with no gas. It seems to me it should have held up better. Just putting it out there because my first bottle was ridiculously advanced. (1631 views)
 Tasted by BradKNYC on 6/20/2013: A night of Bordeaux as Tom Reddick pays a return visit to NYC. (Le Philosophe.): Suzanne was a sweetheart for bringing this wine as it's one of my favorites from '08. This one took a little while to get going, initially showing surprisingly soft acid structure. With air, however, it picked up and was its usual vivacious and enthralling self. Still youthful with quince, apple, chalky mineral and acacia. Moderately sweet, but balanced perfectly. There's just so much thrill factor and personality to this wine. It paired wonderfully with the frog leg, maitake and sunchoke appetizer. A/A-. (2257 views)
 Tasted by qryan on 5/27/2013 & rated 89 points: Ripe and complex -- but a little rich and lacking focus. I haven't been a able to recreate the magic of my first bottle. (1793 views)
 Tasted by Frank Murray III on 5/11/2013: Damn this is drinking great. Lime peel, tangerine, great acidity that marries well with the fruit and finishing minerality. Drank over dinner @ R and D in Newport, had the spinach omelette and taboulleh, then the carrot cake. Maybe this sounds strange but I tell you, this Bouchet was lights out good with these pairings. No rush to drink my last 2, as this is great now and with the fresh acidity, it will live for a while more. Love Chidaine. (2051 views)
 Tasted by BradKNYC on 2/19/2013: Bo ssam and vino with a visiting John Tomasso. (Christine & Marty's.): Always a great way to kick off an evening. I've loved this wine since release and while showing a little more coyly than most of the other bottles I've had, it's still shows that electric personality and vivid quince, citrus and crushed white gravel profile with a smattering of yellow and white flowers. Brilliant acidity balances out the 19 g/l residual perfectly. This bottle sees the fruit just a little less full and the structure a bit tighter, so it could be that the wine is starting to shut down. While it may make some sense to start keeping ones hands off these for awhile, it's still lip smackingly good. Solid A-. (2527 views)
 Tasted by Grill Factor on 1/12/2013 & rated 95 points: Serious minerality on the nose. Sea shell and salty sea air with a bit of lemon. The minerality follows through on the palate with blue stone and chalkiness. The mouthfeel is impressive and the fruit is simply outstanding. Tropical fruits like pineapple and mango with a bit of honey and lemon. Sweetness stopped short by the impressive acidity. This went well with salads and charcuterie to start the meal and then with a selection of cheeses to finish the meal. Extra points for the versatility. (1838 views)
 Tasted by Jubby on 1/12/2013 & rated 93 points: An outstanding example, great nose of creamy tropical fruits, and a finish of sweet mango, amongst others. Makes a great aperitif, would work well with mildly spiced Asian food. We tried it with a blue cheese, which worked surprisingly well. A little sweet for my personal taste so give thought to pairing and occasion, nonetheless a simply outstanding wine that will age for many years yet. (2071 views)
 Tasted by BernieMSY on 1/10/2013 & rated 94 points: Wonderful. A slight tang offsets the sweetness. Really nice (1801 views)
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Professional 'Channels'
By Chris Kissack
Winedoctor, January 2011
(François Chidaine Vouvray Le Bouchet) This cuvée is generally sweet, demi-sec or moelleux, and is sourced from 50-year old vines on clay-limestone terroirs. In this vintage it has 19 g/l residual sugar. Very fresh and open in terms of style, with a touch of aniseed and liquorice here, also fennel maybe. It has a lovely style, soft and supple, polished off with oak, although there is a fine substance and depth to it as well. There are polished and golden-honey fruits, giving the wine a very supple style, delicious and rather caressing. Underneath a fine core of acid. Impressive.  18 points
By Gary Vaynerchuk
Wine Library TV, Interesting Whites With Huge Scores, Episode #953 (11/22/2010)
(Francois Chidaine Vouvray Bouchet) #1; COLOR-medium golden; NOSE-quite tight; more minerality; a little lemon peel; also some Crème Fraiche; a little almond shell; PALATE-this wine is complex; makes my mouth water; I love the acidity; this is food friendly and makes me want to eat; I love this peachy freshness coming through; beautiful guava and kiwi flavors that are singing on the mid-palate; this is SPECTACULAR wine; very flinty and chalky; GREAT structure; well made; seamless; long finish; juicy; creamy; delicate; powerful; this is SPECTACULAR; this is dry with so much fruit that there's a hint of sweetness; there's a beautiful honey component; it' thick; has great viscosity and mouthfeel; great balance; a nice citrus punch; almost like pineapple juice; this is world class; tastes like a rock wrapped in lemon peels with pineapple juice squeezed on top; Delightful and Delicious; love the minerality; love the fruit; love the tropical flavors and love the mouthfeel; DS-95; GV-93+  93+ points
By Chris Kissack
Winedoctor, February 2010
(François Chidaine Vouvray Le Bouchet) This cuvée is generally sweet, demi-sec or moelleux, and is sourced from 50-year old vines on clay-limestone terroirs. A fresh and ethereal character on the nose, citrus and cream, and a much firmer style than the two Montlouis demi-secs in this vintage. Notes of stone, lightly sprinkled with flower petals. Firm, beautifully textured, vibrant and tingly. A vigorous wine with wonderful character and great potential.  17-18+ points
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François Chidaine

Producer website

Louis Dressner: In the village of Husseau, François Chidaine has worked alongside his father Yves for many years on two independent estates. François has strong feelings about viticulture, and works his vines the old-fashioned way, but does not want any mention of organic viticulture on his bottles although he is certified organic. He writes: “Wine is born from the vine, not from artificial skills of re-creation in the winery. It is sufficient to start modestly by working the soil.”

Retail website
Chidaine is considered to be one of the great wine-makers in the Loire. His wines show a combination of finesse, minerality and power which we only encounter in the great wines of France. This is due to a number of factors, not least of which is his commitment to working the soil of his vineyards, and lowering yields below fifty hectoliters per hectare (3.5 tons per acre). The wines are only minimally chaptalized, and sugar is never added to a wine which is destined to have residual sugar (i.e. Les Tuffeaux, Clos Habert). The wines often ferment very slowly, sometimes all winter, in Chidaines cold limestone cellars, and this makes for complexity in the wines which is unattainable through faster fermentations. Slow fermentations also allow the wine-maker to postpone adding sulfur to the wine because of the continual, anti-oxidant blanket of CO2 produced, thus lowering the total amount needed in the wine.

Chenin Blanc

Varietal character (Appellation America)


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Loire Valley

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