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| Community Tasting Notes (average 88.1 pts. and median of 90 pts. in 18 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by Cailles on 12/28/2023 & rated 80 points: 12x Bordeaux 1983 vs 1993: All wines tasted single blind. Not decanted. As anticipated, the 1983 vintage prevailed in our comparative tasting, scoring 8 to 2 wins against the 1993 vintage, with two ties. The structured, classic ’83s exhibited greater depth and harmony compared to the ‘93s, which tended to be simpler, sometimes slightly green and dry, or at their best, fresh and light. However, in both vintages, aside from a few notable labels, many wines were evidently beyond their peak. The standout was, unsurprisingly, the Margaux (94pts). Tasting the some of the same ’83s a second time a few days later with decanting showed a marked improvement, highlighting the need of aeration.
TN: The nose is dominated by raisiny and soy sauce notes with a hint of herbs, signaling a wine that's definitely past its peak. This theme continues on the palate, making it not particularly enjoyable to drink. Generous 80pts for an intact structural frame. The 1993 (91pts) is clearly the better wine. (654 views) | | | Tasted by sirpat00 on 11/20/2023 & rated 81 points: Bordeaux 1983 vs 1993 face-off: Slight maggi notes and beef juice, but otherwise still present red cherry fruit and hardly notable aging notes. The palate already reminiscent of vinegar for a large part. A rare instance of the ’83 losing out to the ’93. (477 views) | | | Tasted by Sean Tay on 3/1/2023 & rated 90 points: Medium nose with note with earth, barnyard, toast, spices. Medium acidity and tannin. Declining, drink now. Drank from magnum. (730 views) | | | Tasted by ljl on 8/24/2022 & rated 98 points: This wine was perfect. Showed age on appearance. Led and cedar nose. Beautiful fruit on the palate with dominance of cherry. Also cedar and caramel. I decanted the wine but it immediately was ready to drink. (926 views) | | | Tasted by Sean Tay on 5/11/2021 & rated 92 points: Medium nose with note with green, mint, red fruits, slight spices. Medium acidity and tannin. Declining, drink up. (1657 views) | | | Tasted by ljl on 9/3/2020 & rated 92 points: Slight browning. Aroma of graphite, cedar, wet leaves and leather. Dark cherry and tart plum. Opened up with more fruit after about one hour. (1652 views) | | | Tasted by kenv on 3/23/2017 & rated 88 points: WCC Saint Estephe Blind Tasting (Provence Restaurant, Albany, NY): Big, smoky black cherry nose. Smooth, fully mature. Lovely, but drink up. [My last bottle!] (4381 views) | | | Tasted by jgh123 on 10/5/2014 & rated 86 points: Nice old claret. Drink up (5191 views) | | | Tasted by Javachip on 11/20/2011 & rated 90 points: Top shoulder fill. Allowed to breathe in bottle one hour before tasting. Clear medium blood-garnet red with brick rim. Mature, elegant bouquet of cigar box, red currants, exposed mud flats, dried cranberries. Seamless, wonderfully balanced old claret. No idea why this bottle showed so much better than another bottle 22 months ago from the same source. This bottle seemed more youthful and well-preserved. (7294 views) | | | Tasted by Javachip on 1/14/2010 & rated 84 points: Base neck fill. Decanted and served. Clear light-medium mahogany-ruby. Mature bouquet of pine forest, leather, bloody roast beef, stewed rhubarb and tomato. Light, smooth, refined on the palate. Should have used this for cooking, and the cheap supermarket wine for drinking, instead of the other way around. (6866 views) | | | Tasted by rpk835 on 8/13/2006 flawed bottle: Cork was bad. Wine was drinkable but past maturity. (7523 views) | | | Tasted by rpk835 on 8/12/2006 flawed bottle: Cork was bad. Wine was past maturity. (6120 views) | | | Tasted by La Cave d'Argent on 3/11/2003 & rated 70 points: Cork fragmented, requiring decanting through unbleached coffee filter. Bright disc. Light-to-medium garnet/amber with orange rim. Clean nose, showing moderately intense earth, spice box, tobacco and light rubber. Medium-bodied on the palate, with melted tannins and similar flavors as for the nose. Short, rubber-laden finish. This wine is drinkable at this point, but there is no fruit and it offers no special enjoyment. It has likely been in decline for several years. (3687 views) |
| Château Calon-Ségur Producer website - Read more about Chateau Calon SegurRed Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)
History of Bordeaux
History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification
"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanMédoc Vins du Médoc (Conseil des Vins du Médoc) - Read More about the Medoc
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The eight precisely defined appellations of the whole of the Médoc (from Blanquefort Brook to the north of the Bordeaux built-up area, almost to the Pointe de Grave) may claim the Médoc appellation. But there is also a specific territory in the north of the peninsula which produces exclusively wines with this appellation. In the great majority, the Médocs come from the north of the peninsula. The great individuality of this region is that the number of vines has increased more recently here than elsewhere, apart from a few isolated spots where vines have grown for many years. Today, the size of the small estate has brought about the development of a powerful co-operative movement. Four co-operatives out of five belong to the group called Unimédoc which ensures aging, bottling and marketing a large proportion of their wines.St. Estèphe Read more about St. Estephe and its wines Whereas the first activity recorded in Saint-Estèphe goes back as far as the Middle Bronze Age, the first vines date from the Roman Occupation. But it was the Bordeaux merchants who by aging and selling Saint-Estèphe wines themselves were largely responsible for this appellation's fame. And in the nineteenth century, noted for its prosperity, the great estates of today were created. The movement continues today with the merging of small estates.
A land of great wines, Saint-Estèphe is situated almost in the centre of the Médoc, close to the Gironde Estuary. The appellation is equidistant from Bordeaux and the Pointe de Grave.
The beds of soil are characterized by their remarkable diversity, the result of their undulating relief and excellent drainage. Quartz and well-rounded pebbles mingled with light, sandy surface soil are found everywhere, giving the wines a distinctive finesse. And the subsoil is made up of the famous Saint-Estèphe limestone, which outcrops on the west of the commune.
Tasting
Thanks to ideal conditions of climate and geology, Saint-Estèphe wines are characterized by their sturdy qualities and robust constitution. Accordingly, they can be laid down for a very long time while yet preserving their youth and freshness. Distinguished by a subsoil which is more clayey than that in the other communal appellations which lie by the river, the wine here attains a distinctive individuality : a very rich tannic structure, a fine deep red colour and an exceptional backbone with aromas of great finesse.
Production conditions (Decree dated September 11, 1936):
In order to have the right to the Saint-Estèphe appellation of controlled origin, red wines must:
- come from the communes of Saint-Estèphe, "excluding any parcels in that area which are situated on recent alluvium and sand on impermeable subsoils",
- satisfy precise production conditions : grape-varieties (Cabernet-Sauvignon, Cabernet-Franc, Carmenère, Merlot Noir, Petit Verdot, Cot or Malbec), minimum of sugar (178 grammes - 6.27 oz. - per litre of must) degree (an acquired 10°5) base yield (45 hectolitres per hectare). |
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