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Beer versus wine - 7/26/2008 1:27:28 PM   
pjaines

 

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Status: offline 		I was looking at my fridge the other day and realised there were 4 bottles of beer that had been there for about 6 months and I never felt the urge to touch them.  My house can be full of 12 types of beers and I never have the interest to touch them.  12 types of wine on the other hand is a different matter.  Why is this?  I rationalised this to myself that a when you buy beer X you always know what it will taste like and there is no mystique to it.  When I buy a wine it is like a discovery (vintage, region etc etc) and a more inquisitive process, hence why I can happily not drink beer for months on end but find my interest piqued as soon as I see a bottle of wine I have never had.

What say you, fellow CT'ers?

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/26/2008 2:32:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Since becoming more involved in wine, I find the beer tends to sit untouched in my fridge for long spells too, even the intriguing belgiques. As much for any other reason, I´m afraid of what happens when I step on the scale after drinking them.


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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/26/2008 3:17:57 PM   
fingers

 

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Status: offline 		Copy that, Paul.  The only time I'm grabbing beer nowadays it's either with German sausage and sauerkraut or Mexican food.  However, there are some whites that go pretty nicely with the Mexican dishes and if it not for the sauerkraut, I'm still drinking reisling with German dishes.    

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/26/2008 3:26:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just threw away maybe a case and ahalf  of miscellaneous beer left over from football tailgaters and such.  Figured it had been sitting around to long and I would start fresh this football season.  Seems folks were drink more wine and less beer last year.

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/27/2008 2:48:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Beer has it's place as a thirst quencher in our house. Going to sauna (most Finnish homes have a sauna) without a beer is kind of sacrilegious, at least for me. I've tried wine once, and it just doesn't do the job. I do try to find those special microbreweries that are popping up even here in Finland!

PS the place for an ice cold beer is after the sauna, not IN the sauna!


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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/27/2008 6:26:18 AM   
Maestro

 

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Status: offline 		I usually don't drink beer and I don't bother about it.

I do however, succumb to one temptation: "Weißbier"

I have learnt to drink it while skying in Austria and doing work in Bavaria. I don't drink it often, but in the summer I usually consume a couple of Weißbier bottles every month. But that's only for the summer, or if I am visiting Bavaria or Austria.

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/27/2008 7:25:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hardly buy beer these days, will have a few Becks in the UK this summer and a few Weißbiers in the sports bar watching the soccer/football this season but apart from that, few and far between.

Maestro - I'm convinced Weißbier is essential when on a German diet, it seems to replace the veg!

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/27/2008 9:13:26 AM   
Serge Birbrair

 

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Status: offline 		I used to drink much more beer before wine hobby went "full bloom". Microbreweries, Belgians, they all good and once in a blue moon I get myself a bottle at the restaurant.

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/27/2008 5:21:55 PM   
smahk

 

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Status: offline 		Yep - beer here too is left uncomsumed. I gave the  last leftovers to some construction workers putting the final touches on my cellar.

Even with mexican I have been justifying something from south america........or even a riojas!

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/27/2008 8:27:19 PM   
J2K

 

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Status: offline 		I don't buy much beer either. If I do it sits around for weeks unless beer drinkers come to the house. During the summer, especially golfing on a hot summer day, I will get the craving for a beer. Last week I drank some Becks which I haven't had in a long time and it was good! But now I can go another two months without wanting a beer (until football season).

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/27/2008 8:46:41 PM   
cgrimes

 

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Status: offline 		I bought a 12-pack of Belgian ales and it sat for 12 months in the fridge before being consumed by someone else.  I think I had 2 of them.  Used to drink alot more beer, but obviously that has changed.

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/27/2008 8:51:45 PM   
zippz

 

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Status: offline 		With exception to some of the states microbrews, I find north american beers a bit of a bore...
most taste and look like piss.
Not that i have ever tried piss before for reference, though i would imagine.

It's europe where they make real beer. 
If it's the story behind the label that is part of the turn on for you,
then consider the cultivation/selection of hops/barley and complexity in process/brewing
as a kin to what takes place at a vineyard/winery.

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/27/2008 9:02:42 PM   
Serge Birbrair

 

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Status: offline 		CG, every time we are at the place which serves mussels in various sauces with decent Belgian Beers list -
I'd rather go for it than wine. I think I had beer in my fridge 4-5 times in my life though.

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/28/2008 4:17:43 PM   
mocamro

 

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Status: offline 		I guess I'm the only one, but I drink lots of beer...everything from Bud and Tecate to the Belgins to the CA micros (good thing Firestone is min. down the road)...and when faced with free wine vs. free beer, I always take the free beer. Free wine is easy to find, free beer however...

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/28/2008 5:43:27 PM   
J2K

 

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ORIGINAL: mocamro

. Free wine is easy to find, free beer however...


.....and where do you live? How do get free wine??? And what kind of wine is it??

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/28/2008 5:52:51 PM   
cgrimes

 

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ORIGINAL: Serge Birbrair

CG, every time we are at the place which serves mussels in various sauces with decent Belgian Beers list -I'd rather go for it than wine.


Hmmm...I'll have to try that sometime.  I tend to eat mussels with a white Burg (but then again I'll drink a white Burg with nearly anything )

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/29/2008 2:30:13 AM   
pjaines

 

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Status: offline 		I can vouch for the superb mix of Belgian beers and moules frites.  The Belgians might be a boring lot, but when it comes to their beer they know their stuff.  Beware the 14% ABV stuff though.  You end up in the gutter crying like a baby after that stuff.

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/29/2008 4:09:58 AM   
ROEL

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks Paul, you've done wonders for my self esteem just there. At last one thing I can be proud of !

Roel

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/29/2008 4:37:02 AM   
pjaines

 

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Status: offline 		Roel, I tell you, I am 100% convinced the Belgian are crazy.  My wife is from just across the border in Lille and half her family is Belgian.  They always turn up with loads of bottles of strong beer I have never heard of and insist that I drink them.  Usually they just line up 8 bottles and say "Et voila !" and expect me to try all of them within 30 minutes. 

For me Belgian beers are simply the best in the world.  Especially when you have all those special glasses to drink them in. 

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/29/2008 7:27:37 AM   
ROEL

 

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Status: offline 		I can live with that. Crazy sounds better than boring (and is more appropriate as well, to be honest)

Happy to see you've come to like belgian beers! What's your favourite so far?
I'm not a beer expert myself, even though I appreciate many of them a lot (especially those with a distict personality, and there's plenty of those around!).
And that's part of the fun (as with wine); you might have to taste quite a number of them before you can identify which type represents your "sweet spot". It's a hugely diverse landscape with big differences in quality and quantities produced (ranging from microscopic to industrial, with the large breweries not necessarily producing the lesser qualities).

Obviously beer is less flexible than wine when it comes to matching it to food (though you are right about the moules frites), but it's more versatile than most people think. I occasionally replace a bottle of white or even red by a Trappist or Gueuze with a meal. 

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/29/2008 7:33:20 AM   
pjaines

 

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Status: offline 		Roel,  Duvel is my favourite although that is more down to it being widely available in the UK and also on sale on the Eurostar.

When I take the Eurostar to the in-laws in Lille I always say London to Lille is a "3-Duvel journey", which means by the time I get to see the crazy, complaining mother-in-law in Lille I am feeling very happy with life and can ignore her.

To be honest I cannot remember all of the names of the Belgium beers I have had, but all I remember is to avoid Kriek.

As for the Belgiums being boring - that is the standard  national stereotype of you guys over here in UK.





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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/29/2008 7:35:53 AM   
cgrimes

 

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/29/2008 7:52:25 AM   
ROEL

 

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Status: offline 		Paul,
Good medicine works wonders .  I'm sure Craig would confirm.
As for the Kriek; there are a few decent producers, but I doubt whether their products are available abroad.

From the more widely available beers, my favourites would be first of all Corsendonk Agnus, then Westmalle Dubbel & Tripel, and Hoegaarden Grand Cru (not the regular one).

Roel

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/29/2008 8:04:30 AM   
cgrimes

 

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ORIGINAL: ROEL

Paul,
Good medicine works wonders .  I'm sure Craig would confirm.


It sure does--more enjoyable, healthier, and better than a Valium.  It also helps nurture a certain cortical deafness that helps with parents

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/29/2008 6:05:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mocamro

. Free wine is easy to find, free beer however...


.....and where do you live? How do get free wine??? And what kind of wine is it??


J2K...I'm ITB, so free wine finds its way to me...as to what kind of wine it is, well its free

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RE: Beer versus wine - 7/29/2008 8:17:23 PM   
J2K

 

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ORIGINAL: mocamro

quote:

ORIGINAL: J2K

quote:

ORIGINAL: mocamro

. Free wine is easy to find, free beer however...


.....and where do you live? How do get free wine??? And what kind of wine is it??


J2K...I'm ITB, so free wine finds its way to me...as to what kind of wine it is, well its free



I hear ya!!

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RE: Beer versus wine - 8/1/2008 8:12:33 AM   
superbarre

 

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Status: offline 		nice to see some fellow country men from Belgium here... and where do they all gather, in the beer topic.

Anyway, I'm new to this forum. Hi you all

to be on topic: Mostly, I drink wine with my meals (or I just drink wine), but some dishes require beer, like the moules or other typical Belgian dishes. A lot of them are made with beer actually. My favourites: the classic Duvel, the "best beer of the world" Westvleteren is very good, but impossible to get by because of this title. A very good replacement for that is Rochefort. But actually, there are too much to sum up.


And the rest of the time, I just drink Stella, or it's superior Jupiler.

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