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CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/19/2008 3:24:24 AM   
NiklasW

 

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Status: offline 		Maestro, Colonel and I have exchanged a few PMs about the possibility of holding a satellite CT meeting on this side of the Atlantic on September 6th. We have agreed that London would be a good central place for this, easy and cheap to get to from around Europe. We three at least are ready to be there, but we think there are two things necessary to make it work: a) more people and b) a live link up to Seattle so that we can virtually meet our fellow CTers in North America!

So, I'd just like to open up the discussion for any Europeans out there who might be interested in joining in. Perhaps the most pressing thing is whether there is any Londoner here who would be interested in helping out with practicalities? If we could get together a maximum of 20 people, perhaps a more informal meet at somebody's place would be possible? Any other ideas? We also have to take into account the time difference (8 hours), so we would actually be starting after midnight just to be in synch with the North Americans (unless we start earlier and are in very jolly mood by the time they start in NA ).

Ideas? Interest?
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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/20/2008 6:36:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like we'll need to work to keep this request near the top of the Posts.
Perhaps a hint at the wines possible would do the trick?
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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/20/2008 8:43:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi folks, it would be great if a European contingent self-organized around the same time. I am not entirely sure if a video-conference would add much--but I tend to be skeptical of such technology. if folks really felt that was a big part of the attraction then of course we could bring a laptop and try to get a linkup going. There are plenty of UK folks on CellarTracker.

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/20/2008 9:53:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess my first post was kind of lame, inviting myself to somebody else's place... but really, since the party would begin after midnight anyway, all we need is a place with an internet connection. No catering, no special organisation, nothing but a place to gather, meet each other and say hi to those in Seattle (and taste some nice wines from our cellars!). I was also thinking of something simple like a skype connection rather than some more complicated technology. I would be happy to host in Finland, but this ain't the most central place in the world, especially since I live a couple of hours drive from the closest big airport!

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/21/2008 9:12:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Are we going to be left out guys (Maestro, Niklas)?
Sadly little interest in our plan so far
What about Seattle?
Never been there, heard it rains a lot - just like London.
They had the worst (well almost) film named after it - feeling tired already*.
A Skype link to them was rather more humble than I imagined.
I'm for a preview in London (I provide the great wine, then catch a direct flight to Seattle?): my place = 1 hour outside London.
They should be able to pick us up - a big bus, with spitoons perhaps?

L.


That's "Sleepless in Seatle" for those lucky enough to miss it.

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/21/2008 10:36:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have been entertaining the idea of going to Seattle (have been there many times before and I love the place -- I also like the wine country in the state of Washington). I even found cheap tickets. But the prospect of 13 hours on the plane (one way) for a very short trip is putting me off a bit, as I need to be back in Europe on Monday.

The European parallel event would suit me better if there was more interest, but I agree, very quiet so far...

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/21/2008 11:40:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Traveling to Seattle from anywhere other than Vancouver or Portland is best only done if you can tack on some time. Just such a long way to go...

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/22/2008 3:29:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Don't give up on London just yet. I'm trying to arrange things to join you over there in September, but can' give a firm confirmation for now.... Will keep you guys posted though. 

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/22/2008 3:59:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Would be good if we could make it work.
Sort of David and Goliath, Kings Xerxes & Leonidas, Little and Large, Morecambe and Wise (we'd have to be the one with short fat hairy legs though).
Now if we choose the battlefield I'd suggest Bordeaux 2000 as our ὅπλα (hoplites); Maestro will know something devastatingly Italian to bring; and what is it from NiklasW - something from Alko? 
Do you know any Lap Reindeer herders?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1439923?dopt=Abstract
Obviously from Belgium we'd need some beer (see adoring posts on Belgium beer which have slipped onto CT).
Getting interesting?
L.
 
 


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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/22/2008 4:13:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Colonel Lawrence

(...)Maestro will know something devastatingly Italian to bring; (...)




I just loved the expression "devastatingly Italian". That will become an instant stock phrase for me.

As in:
Q:How does Nebbiolo taste when it is good?
A: Oh, quite special, in a "devastatingly Italian" way, y'know...

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/22/2008 5:43:27 AM   
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As long as you recognise that I meant it in the less formal way of “overwhelming”,
e.g. devastatingly beautiful,
rather than your more familiar Latin “devastates” to lay waste.
Hey and all this from someone who only speaks two languages - English and American.

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/22/2008 7:16:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Colonel Lawrence

 
As long as you recognise that I meant it in the less formal way of “overwhelming”,
e.g. devastatingly beautiful,
rather than your more familiar Latin “devastates” to lay waste.
Hey and all this from someone who only speaks two languages - English and American.



Oh, don't worry, I saw it as a compliment. I know you meant "devastating" in the most "Italian" way...

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 5/22/2008 11:11:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Colonel Lawrence

what is it from NiklasW - something from Alko? 
Do you know any Lap Reindeer herders?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1439923?dopt=Abstract
Getting interesting?
L.


That would be Koskenkorva then, but maybe I'll bring something French and red in colour rather! Hey, are there any other potentially interested people out there like ROEL? I have yet to tell my wife about a possible weekend in London tasting wine...she will probably flip when I do!

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/4/2008 7:38:42 AM   
Colonel Lawrence

 

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We need some support for a London gathering, it's not so much fun drinking alone.
L.

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/5/2008 3:17:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi guys,

I’m interested as well, but I probably won’t know before the second week of July if I will be able to make it that weekend.
If Niklas brings some reindeer (beautiful food!) which definitely matches with good nebbiolo it will be hard to resist.
Hope it’ll work out.

Bill.

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/11/2008 2:26:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		We're still a few short and that's if all five of us make it.
So what about you folk:
GintsO        Latvia, Jūrmala
kingbing    London, UK
lozatron     London
nettl           Leicester, UK
nwinther    Denmark
paul d         UK
Ricardo      Ascot, UK
stcksplt1      Ireland
stephori     Paris or Reims


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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/16/2008 12:40:07 AM   
Colonel Lawrence

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ROEL

Don't give up on London just yet. I'm trying to arrange things to join you over there in September, but can' give a firm confirmation for now.... Will keep you guys posted though. 


Seeing you on line - any news?

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/16/2008 4:02:36 AM   
ROEL

 

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just taking in some of my daily CT medicine and checking whether there are any new potantial candidantes for London. Always fun to see what's going on, even more so since things have become a little more lively. 

Concerning the London sattelite; my participation depends on a business event that I have to attend, and that is planned for the week-end of September 6-7 or 13-14. Decision on the date is mid-July. Pushing for the second of course, but not in my hands.

If I manage to get to London, I'll be sure to throw in a couple of Gueuzes, along with my share of reds and/or whites. Come to think of it, I'll start sampling tonight!

Roel

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/16/2008 4:24:50 AM   
Colonel Lawrence

 

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Status: offline 		Pushing for 6th,7th don't you mean??????????????
Don't get confused by our American cousins putting their days and months back to front.
The event is Friday 5th Sept and Saturday 6th Sept.
If it actually goes ahead I can be available a day or two either side of that date as well.
Hey maybe we start our event early and keep going longer.
I've got quite a lot of stuff to try:
New World one day, Old the next, with the play offs on the third!
Hope you're on for it - you may be the deciding body.
L.

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/16/2008 4:57:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		You're right of course. I just keep thinking of week-ends in terms of saturday-sunday. Anyway, it's an entire week-end on or off for me, depending on this decision due mid-july.

I could propose some older spanish wines (younger ones as well, but you'd be more likely to come across those on another occasion), some Tokaji (reductive vs oxydative?), and a mixed bag of rhone / bordeaux with some nice bottles waiting to be uncorked. Also have a couple of skeletons in the cupboard (or should I say "potential surprises"? There's a thread on that somewhere...), but I'll spare you those

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/16/2008 5:54:59 AM   
Rak

 

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Status: offline 		Hello Colonel Lawrence,

This sounds most tempting ('I can resist anything but temptation', Oscar Wilde). I can't commit to this at this stage but one never knows....

Happy drinking
Rak


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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/16/2008 6:46:20 AM   
Colonel Lawrence

 

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Status: offline 		Some wine (sort of) related quotes:

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars"

"I have often observed that in married households the champagne is rarely of a first-rate brand"

"Work is the curse of the drinking classes of this country"

"The English have a miraculous power of turning wine into water"


Let's hope London in September comes off.










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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/16/2008 7:12:33 AM   
Rak

 

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Status: offline 		Splendid quotes Colonel.

Vaguely recall Wilde's; 'I believe that alcohol, taken in sufficient quantities, can produce all of the effects of drunkedness'.

and 'Let us have wine and women, mirth and laughter,
Sermons and soda-water the day after'

Perhaps not unsurprisingly the latter comes from Don Juan!

R



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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/17/2008 3:29:33 AM   
Colonel Lawrence

 

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Status: offline 		Once more unto the bar, dear friends, once more,
Or close the door up with our empty bottles!
In Seattle there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility,
But when the North Sea blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger:
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the Cabernet,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favored rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect:
Let it pry through the purple of the wine
Like the brass cannon; let the nose o'erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a gallèd rock
O'erhang and jutty his confounded base,
Swilled with the wild and wasteful Riedel.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Suck hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height! On, on, you noble Trackers,
Whose wine is fet from acres of blessed,
Vines that like so many 1st Growths
Have in these parts from morn till even drunk
And washed their Riedels for lack of dregs.
Dishonor not your mothers; now attest
That those whom you called fathers did beget you!
Be copy now to men of grosser liqors
And teach the Seattlelites how to drink! And you, good trackers,
Whose wines were made in Europe, show us here
The mettle of your vineyard. Let us swear
That you are worth your breeding; which I doubt not,
For there is none of you so mean and base
That hath not noble lustre in your eyes.
I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips,
Straining upon the start. The game's afoot!
Follow your Eric; and upon this charge
Cry 'God for Larry! London and Cellar Tracker!'

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/17/2008 4:07:47 AM   
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Back to the coal face....

R

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/17/2008 8:25:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rak


and 'Let us have wine and women, mirth and laughter,
Sermons and soda-water the day after'

Perhaps not unsurprisingly the latter comes from Don Juan!

R


Actually, that quote is from Byron.

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/17/2008 8:37:46 AM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Juan_(Byron)

And while we're on poetry, and women, and wine:

The 'Wine, Women & Song' hendiatris is quite popular across cultures.'Wein, Weib und Gesang', in German, 'Vin, kvinnor och sång' in Swedish, we have 'Kabab, Sharab aur Shabab' (meat,wine and beauty) in Urdu, and of course 'Sur, Sura, Sundari' (music,wine and woman) in Hindi. Interesting isn't it that the Konkani word for local alcohol is 'sur' and the consumer is a 'surant'. Language is a wonderful thing. Keep in mind also the famous beer slogan seen on T-shirts, 'Pretty women make us buy beer. Ugly women make us drink beer!' or the even more snide but meaningful, 'Beer makes ugly womenbeautiful!'. But I am going astray. Where were we?
The origins of the phrase are unclear but it is popularly attributed to Martin Luther, German theologian and reformer (1483-1546 ) whoapparently said, "He who loves not wine, women and song - remains a fool his whole life long." Some academics on the other hand identify the originator as the German poet Johann Heinrich Voss (1751-1826).Let's just say some German coined it.
Quotes about alcohol abound, but let me concentrate on some more famous quotes around the same theme of Wine, Women and Song - or atleast two out of three. Johann Wolfgang Goethe, German (again!) poetand philosopher, (1749-1832) once was asked, which three things he would take to an island. He stated, "Poetry, a beautiful woman and enough bottles of the world's finest wines to survive this dry period!" Then he was asked what he would leave back first, if it was allowed to take only two things to the island. And he briefly replied,"The poetry!" Slightly surprised, the man asked the next question,"And Sir, what would you leave back if only one was allowed?" Goethe thought for a couple of minutes and answered, "It depends on thev intage!"
Ben Jonson, an English playwright, (1573-1637) made his choice clear in 'To Celia', "Drink to me only with thine eyes, And I will pledgewith mine; Or leave a kiss but in the cup, And I'll not look forwine." What a loser! Omar Khayyam, a Persian poet (1048-1122), wanted it all, "Here with a Loaf of Bread beneath the Bough, A Flask of Wine, a Book of Verse -and Thou; Beside me singing in the Wilderness - And Wilderness is Paradise enow."
Lord Byron, English Poet (1788-1824) too did not compromise in 'Don Juan', "Let us have wine and women, mirth and laughter; Sermons and soda-water the day after." Robert Louis Stevenson, a Scottish author(1850-1894) put it quite simply, "Wine is bottled poetry."
full text:
http://www.edson.in/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56:Wine,%20Women%20and%20Song.In%20vino%20veritas%20:%20In%20wine%20there%20is%20truth,%20cecil%20pinto&catid=37:general

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/17/2008 9:19:08 AM   
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Additional info on the Stevenson quote:

"When Robert Louis Stevenson honeymooned in the Napa Valley in 1880, he described the efforts of the local vintners to match soil and climate with the best possible varietals. 'One corner of land after another.... this is a failure, that is better, this is best.  So, bit by bit, they grope about for their Clos de Vougeot and Lafite...  and the wine is bottled poetry.'"

(K.Zraly - Complete Wine Course 2008, p45)

New World appreciation in 1880.  What's taken you so long, Colonel?  (sic) 
 
California would have beaten France sooner if not for Volstead, right?

Another notable quotable from RLS,  "A good bottle of wine, like a good act, shines ever in the retrospect"

I think Mr Stevenson was a CTnophile

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/17/2008 11:20:36 AM   
Colonel Lawrence

 

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As I am finding now, it is much harder to track down and buy great Aussie wine that has future potential (aging and appreciation),
at good prices (i.e. best in the world).  Bordeaux was an easier place to start and luckily I did it a while back.  Increasingly I expect my future purchases to be New World (and Spain/Italy) and my sales to be Bordeaux, until they have a good vintage and price it right.
L.

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RE: CT weekend satellite in London? - 6/19/2008 4:50:34 AM   
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And Cellar Tracker shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that drinks his wine with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That drank with us upon September 5th.

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