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Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon - 11/14/2007 6:40:16 PM   
Schu

 

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Status: offline 		There are many entries for Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon and then a Signature version.  They are the same.

Some links:
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=264587 2004
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=219938 2004 Signature
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=397064 2005
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=418609 2005 Signature
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RE: Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon - 11/19/2007 10:00:05 AM   
Schu

 

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Status: offline 		any update?

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RE: Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon - 11/26/2007 9:18:35 AM   
Eric

 

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Status: offline 		It's not that simple. When I look at doing the merge, there are hundreds of collisions where the same person owns both wines. Not a good scenario to merge blindly. On the 2004 alone there are dozens of collisions and very different price points ($35 vs. $100). There must be confusion with some other wine in the lineup.

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RE: Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon - 11/26/2007 1:46:05 PM   
Schu

 

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Status: offline 		I can understand where someone would have purchases for 2 different.  In my case, when I entered the the 04's I put them into the non-signature designated version.  Not thinking about it one bit and didn't notice that there were 2 versions until I got my 05's and realized that there wasn't any 05 listed under the non-signature version, but found the correct version by searching for "2005 chappellet cab."  Just so you are aware, the Chappellet website lists only the signature and the more expensive Pritchard Hill.
http://www.chappellet.com/index.cfm?method=pages.showPage&pageid=273617eb-e600-7bac-c35c-aedb804c75ef

I fully understand if this cannot easily be done though.  No clue why someone would pay $100 for this wine... that must be a typo on their part.

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RE: Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon - 11/26/2007 9:07:45 PM   
iByron

 

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Status: offline 		While understanding the technical details of why it's a problem, it's probably safe to assume that these are, in fact, the same wine. Someone has uploaded identical labels to both "signature" and "non-sig" versions.

Chappellet sells the "Signature" Cab in a 750ml and a 1.5L Magnum. I'd wager that the people who paid $100 have magnums as they list for $115 on the Chappellet site. The 750ml lists for $46.

I find that people aren't all that careful about entering sizes, simply taking the default 750ml apparently without thinking. There are entries here for 750ml bottles of dessert wine that only comes in 375ml bottles (Bonny Doon Vineyard Le Vol des Anges for example). At the other extreme, Woot Cellars Polyphemus was only sold in a 1.5L yet 16 persons list having a 750ml. It wouldn't surprise me to find that some owners indicating $100 purchase of a 750ml actually have a Magnum and just didn't select. Maybe the default value should be "Select a size," which would be invalid and we would be forced to pick a valid value even for 750ml bottles.

Then there's also the problem of only one UPC per record when the record can support multiple sizes of the same wine (which will have different UPCs). I don't think that's at play here, but it could conceivably add to any confusion.

Byron

< Message edited by iByron -- 11/26/2007 9:20:49 PM >

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RE: Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon - 2/13/2008 9:43:53 AM   
Schu

 

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Status: offline 		Eric, can you move all my wine/notes/professional reviews from the 2004 non-signature to the 2004 signature?  I still maintain that these are the same wines, but since you cannot merge them please just move my entries.  I think it would be easier for you to swap the wine ID on my entries then for me to recreate the entries myself.  My user # is 9527.  Thanks!

EDIT: Forgot to throw in some links for you.
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=264587 2004
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=219938 2004 Signature

< Message edited by Schu -- 2/13/2008 9:45:29 AM >

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RE: Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon - 2/13/2008 11:45:22 AM   
Eric

 

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Status: offline 		Just propose an edit to the wine with your data, and then I can spin all of your data to the other wine using that.

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RE: Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon - 2/14/2008 7:44:48 AM   
Schu

 

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Status: offline 		Done.  Thanks!

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RE: Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon - 2/14/2008 8:56:28 AM   
Eric

 

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Status: offline 		all set

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RE: Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon - 7/28/2008 11:04:10 AM   
pkbackman

 

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Status: offline 		Is there really no way to fix this?  These are the same wine.  Right now the '05 vintage shows 187 bottles in stock of the non-Signature and 237 of the Signature.  The '04 vintage shows 444 non Signature and 271 Signature.  How do I choose which one I want mine to be?  They are the same wine!!!

On top of that... somebody has just started entering these as a new Producer="Chappellet".  That really needs to get fixed before this gets out of hand.  Thanks!

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RE: Chappellet Cabernet Sauvignon - 7/29/2008 1:01:45 PM   
Eric

 

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Status: offline 		OK, I merged these.

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