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How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 10:48:44 AM   
mcease

 

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Status: offline 		Now that I am hooked and I am going to be building my own cellar I am just curious how many bottles you have in your cellar.  The number will obviosly change due to drinking some and purchasing more, but on average how many bottles of wine do you own?  As a beginner I have about 10 bottles and growing
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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 10:59:19 AM   
NiklasW

 

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Status: online 		Watch out...I went from 30 bottles to 180 in a little over a year. The absolute worst report in CT is the "Purchases over time" report. It really gives one a sinking feeling in the stomach...  Especially when you look at the average price per bottle over time! 

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 11:11:55 AM   
Serge Birbrair

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mcease

As a beginner I have about 10 bottles and growing


In today's world the number of bottles one has is correlated firmly to one's ability in keeping the job.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 11:43:42 AM   
kelpcowboy

 

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quote:

As a beginner I have about 10 bottles and growing
quote:

ORIGINAL: mcease

As soon as you go from bottles to boxes you'll know you have gone round the bend


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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 12:43:18 PM   
mcease

 

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quote:



As soon as you go from bottles to boxes you'll know you have gone round the bend



Haha Very True!

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 12:44:31 PM   
rjonas

 

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Joined: 11/5/2006
From: Newcastle, WA
Status: offline 		It is definitely an incidious and addictive hobby.. not to mention expensive... but FUN!!, especially with the help of CT.

I started seriously collecting only in the last few years... Went relatively quickly from about 60 bottles to 250 and then got a new 600 bottle cooler last year that is now 85% full...

The trick then becomes balancing storage space between the bottles that you want for relatively short-term consumption and the bottles that you want to cellar for several years.

Kelp is correct.. I find myself most often buying ~3 bottles of any particular wine; 1 to be able to try in the short-term and a couple to hold or to pull out at dinner parties etc... There are quite a few people who buy by the case, multiple cases most of the time... I'm glad I don't have to pay their Visa bill!!!

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 1:38:36 PM   
pbm

 

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ORIGINAL: mcease

Now that I am hooked and I am going to be building my own cellar I am just curious how many bottles you have in your cellar.  The number will obviosly change due to drinking some and purchasing more, but on average how many bottles of wine do you own?  As a beginner I have about 10 bottles and growing


You'll never have enough. Ever. Never ever.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 1:50:14 PM   
J2K

 

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From: Pittsburgh, PA- U.S.A.
Status: offline 		Here is your access link for bottle amounts by user. You can type in any user on the left search field.
http://www.cellartracker.com/list.asp?O=Bottles%2BPending%20DESC&table=Users
Big Brother is watching........

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 1:51:07 PM   
superbarre

 

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From: Leuven, Belgium
Status: offline 		went from 50 or so to 500 this summer...

< Message edited by superbarre -- 10/7/2008 1:12:50 AM >

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 2:25:05 PM   
Hollowine

 

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ORIGINAL: mcease

The number will obviosly change due to drinking some and purchasing more, but on average how many bottles of wine do you own? 


AhHa! That was the part of the equation I was missing, I wondered why the cellar kept growing...

I remember the 10 bottle days (two '94 OpusOne, couple of '92 and '94 Silver Oaks, a Grgich Hills or two and a bottle of Vintage Port). It seemed I was in control. Yes, I was experimenting, but then who wasn't, it was the mid 90's? A couple friends were into Bordeaux; it happened innocently enough, I was over for a visit and they broke out a Clerc Milon. Then came the Lynch Bages. Before I knew it I could name the 2nd label of each of the 1st Growths. I bought Parker's Bordeaux and subscribed to Wine Spectator. I started to make errors, I mispronounced Viognier at a party and one summer weekend I had a glass or two of Beringer White Zinfandel. My buying had risen to two bottles a week.

Next Week - The Australian Years (aka Do Teeth Whitening strips really work?)

Have fun mcease, it's a wonderful hobby!



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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 3:13:09 PM   
Pavie Princess

 

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From: The Big Easy, New Orleans
Status: offline 		i got about 1/3 of all my cellar loaded on CT......................collecting is addicting for sure.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/6/2008 4:42:39 PM   
Serge Birbrair

 

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From: Boca Raton, Florida
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pavie Princess

i got about 1/3 of all my cellar loaded on CT......................collecting is addicting for sure.


Sweetheart, how many of those bottles were bought by:
you?
your husband?
your relatives who left you inheritance?


Please tell us more about the passion of the folks who left your husband their cellars...I am all ears.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/8/2008 5:15:49 PM   
kelpcowboy

 

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Status: offline 		I am waiting for the time when the spouse insists that I take up with a woman on the side and go a little easy on the wine buying.  We were at a restaurant recently when a rep from a local distributor came over to our table to say hi and talk wine.  I might be spending too much time on this "hobby".  My only hope at this point is that the cellar will see me through old age.  Lord knows I can't buy a case of plonk with what my retirement is now worth.  Thank you Wall Street.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/8/2008 9:14:11 PM   
mjobtx

 

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Status: offline 		I buy only enough to replace what I consume or gift which ranges between 150 - 200 bottles per year.  I am a piker compared to many of you.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/9/2008 3:37:21 AM   
stephori

 

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From: Paris or Reims
Status: offline 		I have begun buying wine during spring 2007, and now I have around 200 bottles for an average consumption of 60 bottles per year.

In order to limit my purchases, I have a fixed amount of money per month, but as I am completely addicted, I' m currently buying bottles for June 2009...

I have bought lots of vintage champagnes and I will be able to taste throughout their aging.

Mixing your purchases for short, middle and long term consumption is not always easy.

Does anyone know how to find how many bottles you can drink per year ? I already know the Linear/ Drinkability report but I would like something summed per year like :

2009 : 45,6 bottles
2010 : 56,8 bottles
2011 : 67,6 bottles


(Sorry, for my english, just got 915 at the Toeic test)

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/9/2008 4:19:01 AM   
pjaines

 

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Status: online 		Stephori,

Bienvenue a Cellartracker.   Votre Anglais est tres bon.

For the reporting of your wine, you can look at your cellar and report either by Drink Starting date or Drink By date.

http://www.cellartracker.com/list.asp?table=Pivot&Pivot1=BeginConsume&Pivot2=iWine

http://www.cellartracker.com/list.asp?table=Pivot&Pivot1=EndConsume&Pivot2=iWine

Et voila!!



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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/9/2008 5:58:01 AM   
NiklasW

 

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Status: online 		Or even more simple:

http://www.cellartracker.com/list.asp?table=Pivot&Pivot1=BeginConsume

which gives bottles per year just as you wanted stephori!

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/9/2008 6:07:40 AM   
scottr1968

 

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From: Virginia
Status: offline 		Like a fish, my wine collection seems to grow to the size of its environment. 

When I picked up a cooler that holds around 380 bottles, I thought that would suffice for years (my previous cooler held 100).  About 6 months later, it was full.  I tried the philosophy of "drink it quick to make room" - but alas, I could not consume it fast enough to stay ahead of the incoming flow.  The cases started to stack up outside the cooler.  So I laid out the design for a 1,500 bottle cellar (hating to see all those cases sitting on the basement floor outside of a controlled environment).  But then I realized, if I built it, they would come, and I really couldn't afford an additional 1,100 bottles of wine this year.  So I shelved the plans, and just this week was able to get the last bottle off the floor and into the current cooler. 

It takes a lot of self-contol, focus, and determination to stay within the confines of the cooler, but I will get by, and replace only what I drink.  Now I must run because I have 3 cases I ordered that I am picking up Saturday, so I have some drinking to do...

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/9/2008 7:00:19 AM   
pjaines

 

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Status: online 		"Build it and they will come" - I love that quote in regards to your wine cellar.



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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/9/2008 7:44:49 AM   
rbazinet

 

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From: Toronto, Ontario
Status: offline 		I am another example of what you will hear, over and over.  I picked up a 110 bottle cellar.  I now have 108 bottles in the cellar, 14 pending and a handful of my day to day wines on a rack beside it.  It just happens.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/9/2008 8:44:07 AM   
Bill

 

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From: EU
Status: offline 		Thank you Niklas and pjaines for those links.
There is even much more possible than I know of.

And it can give very special results....
When following the link without being logged in, it shows all the community wines.

One of them:
2074 - 512 wines.........
it is this wine:
N.V. Arcus (France, Midi)
 
I am still in doubt if I will add him as my favourite TN writer.

Cheers,
Bill.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/10/2008 12:17:31 AM   
Colonel Lawrence

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: stephori

Does anyone know how to find how many bottles you can drink per year ?




A difficult question.
If it had been per day I would have recommended the test many of us use:
when you can't stand up any more - you're full.
I guess you'd have to do this for 365 days and add up the numbers?

Just joking (I hope).

L.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/10/2008 2:06:21 AM   
stephori

 

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From: Paris or Reims
Status: offline 		Hi Colonel,

I meant " the number of available bottles to drink".

Don't have enough bottles for a year long test.

Maybe I should ask a beggar...

Thanks for your answers but they don't answer my question, they just give me the number of bottles by drink soonest and drink latest. 

I' m gonna try to explain it more clearly :

For example you have 10 bottles of wine 1 you want to drink in 10 years and 5 of wine 2 you want to drink in the first 5 years.

From year 1 to year 5, you have 2 bottles to drink per year, and 1 bottle to drink from year 6 to year 10. I would like to get the red numbers for my whole cellar.

Did you get it ???

Thanks in advance

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/10/2008 3:44:48 AM   
nwinther

 

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From: Denmark
Status: offline 		I have a few hundred bottles and seem to have the same problem as Scott.

I keep my wine at my parents house as they have an old place from 1872 with near-cellar conditions in some of the oldest parts of the house (1m. thich walls, a near-constant temperature and such).

But boxes and crates have started cluttering the room severely so now my dad decided to graft a system of shelves into the inside walls for storing the wine. Hopefully this will result in better accessability and systematics. Bloody hard to stack and restack crates to get to the bottom, then realizing that the wine is in some other case.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/11/2008 8:29:49 AM   
PSirah Tampa

 

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Status: offline 		I too have a problem.  I am addicted to purchasing (and consuming) nice wine.

My collecting began about 16 years ago; I found a wine I liked and bought a couple more.  As finances allowed I filled one, two , three boxes.  I wasn't serious back then, but I was getting the bug.  After a few years I bought a computer inventory program, started traveling to various Wine Countries, and subscribed to Wine Spectator.  My boxes filled up a closet and I realized I needed to do something.

About 12 years ago I rented 2- 8 case lockers at a local ABC liquors for my best bottles.  The lockers filled up quickly; I realized this would not be a good long term plan.  I had developed the taste for wine with some age on it; mature vixins.  Ten years ago I built my first cellar in the house to hold 600 bottles.  I really thought that's all the wine storage I would ever need.

I consume around 350 to 400 bottles per year (including my wife's consumption, party's, etc.).  A 600 bottle cellar won't allow me to drink mature wine very often.  The bug had completely hit me around 7 years ago, and extra boxes of wine inthe cellar created complete gridlock.  I was not capable of getting into the cellar for much of anything.  When boxes started piling up in closets I realized I needed to do something again.  By then I had about 1,000 bottles of wine in the house.

Two years ago I built a new cellar to replace the first.  I designed it to hold 1,400 bottles; surely that would be large enough!  When I completed the cellar and moved in all my wine I had empty bins!  I was so pleased all my wine had a proper resting place.  The problem, however, is that it sent a signal to me that I could start buying wine again.  Last year I bought 650 bottles and consumed 370.  This year I'm on a similar pace.  My 1,400 bottle cellar now has 1,760 bottles in it; I have a gridlock problem again.

To make matters worse, I have around 8 cases of Futures that should be delivered within the next few weeks.

One can only consume so much wine and stay healthy.  I'm slowly figuring out how addictive this hobby can be.  There's always a 96 point something or other out there that seems too good to pass up.  I just need to learn to take a pass.   But then again, 1,760 bottles really isn't that much.  It's really only a 5 year supply at the rate I drink it.  Most of my collection needs 5 to 15 years of cellaring anyway.   What I really need is a larger cellar...... I better get busy!

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/11/2008 2:10:03 PM   
pbm

 

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Status: offline 		PSirah, I suspect I'm not the only one who wishes they had your problem.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/12/2008 12:42:37 AM   
Colonel Lawrence

 

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From: Arabia
Status: offline 		Just over three years ago I got the collecting bug, had the drinking bug a lot earlier.
Seemed that buying wine was better than buying shares.
Decided to buy twice as much wine as I'd ever need and to sell half at double the price I paid (hence drinking for free!)
Now if I'd only known what would happen to stocks I would have bought only wine!
Now have a cellar (professionally stored) of 450 cases of Bordeaux red (claret to the Brits).
Have already sold some at gains of +46% to +96%: not the target, but not shabby.

The collecting became serious when I stopped buying bottles and bought cases.
I had always been fed up drinking a great wine I'd bought and not being able to replace it.
As I started with vintage 2000 my short term challenge is finding things to drink until they are ready.
As pbm said - not a bad problem.

L.

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/12/2008 3:24:07 AM   
pjaines

 

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From: London
Status: online 		This thread is starting to sounds like a self-help group - "At first it was just one or two bottles, but then it got out of control and now I find myself doing it all the time"

The problem I have is that this website and forum is self-perpetuating the problem - I get people like Wrighty sending me emails positively INSISTING I buy a particular wine.  The next thing I know I have wazzed another £600 on wine in the morning before I have even started work and I have to go home and tell the wife and kids that we are eating dry bread and water for the next 4 weeks.



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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/12/2008 3:39:10 AM   
Colonel Lawrence

 

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Status: offline 		Remind her you could have bought AIG stock instead.
AND let her have bread and wine once a week ;)

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RE: How many bottles do you have? - 10/12/2008 4:58:44 AM   
Wrighty

 

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Status: offline 		Paul,

You must have said to the kids by now "would you jump of a bridge if he told you to?" does the same apply to wine recommendations? If the suggestions are so compelling I'll be more selective - and will leave the stock recommendations to others

Wrighty

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