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Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas vrai... - 11/20/2008 2:32:11 PM   
Maestro

 

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Status: online 		Anyone spends time chasing the Beaujolais Nouveau?

I used to buy a bottle of the best one just to have an idea about how the growing season might have been in Burgundy, but found out that there is really no correlation between Beaujolais Nouveau's vintage quality and what you can expect from serious wines in the region. So I can't be bothered anymore.

The only thing that is charming is the idea that the wine was actually a bunch of fresh grapes a few weeks ago. But it is more mental innuendo than an actual degustative pleasure.

And of course the hype is pathetic.
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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 2:41:12 PM   
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Anyone spends time chasing the Beaujolais Nouveau?

I used to buy a bottle of the best one just to have an idea about how the growing season might have been in Burgundy, but found out that there is really no correlation between Beaujolais Nouveau's vintage quality and what you can expect from serious wines in the region. So I can't be bothered anymore.

The only thing that is charming is the idea that the wine was actually a bunch of fresh grapes a few weeks ago. But it is more mental innuendo than an actual degustative pleasure.

And of course the hype is pathetic.


One of my most memorable wine moments occurred when a friend of mine proudly gave me a bottle of 8yr old BN he had been saving for a special occasion.  It was certainly special...

No, as much as I love French wine, even some Cru Beaujolais, I don't get into this annual marketing campaign.  After all, if there were no hype, who would drink it?

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 2:44:03 PM   
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One of my most memorable wine moments occurred when a friend of mine proudly gave me a bottle of 8yr old BN he had been saving for a special occasion.  It was certainly special...



I hope he served some fresh green salad, on which you could sprinkle the BN together with some olive oil and pepper...

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 2:46:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		One of the local wine shops is having a tasting of the Beaujolais nouveau this evening.

I'll pass. While it's a good excuse for a party, the payoff by the wine is minimal.

At least to my palate.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 2:49:30 PM   
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One of my most memorable wine moments occurred when a friend of mine proudly gave me a bottle of 8yr old BN he had been saving for a special occasion.  It was certainly special...



I hope he served some fresh green salad, on which you could sprinkle the BN together with some olive oil and pepper...


It wasn't even worthy of my salad.  I just have to laugh...I'm looking now at a Fat Bastard Chardonnay from 2001 which a patient of mine gave me as a gift because he knows I love wine.   It's the thought that counts...

We should do a thread or a virtual tasting of wines like this sometime.  Most of us have at least one hanging around the cellar.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 2:54:33 PM   
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We should do a thread or a virtual tasting of wines like this sometime.  Most of us have at least one hanging around the cellar.


Guilty. Just wanted to hang on to the BN 2000 for some reason. Even then I knew it made no sense.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 2:57:42 PM   
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We should do a thread or a virtual tasting of wines like this sometime.  Most of us have at least one hanging around the cellar.


Guilty. Just wanted to hang on to the BN 2000 for some reason. Even then I knew it made no sense.


My suggestion would be to leave it in the bottle.  Better to think about fond memories from the millenium than to experience just how much time has actually passed.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 3:44:41 PM   
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Anyone spends time chasing the Beaujolais Nouveau?


The only thing that is charming is the idea that the wine was actually a bunch of fresh grapes a few weeks ago. But it is more mental innuendo than an actual degustative pleasure.

And of course the hype is pathetic.


No.  ... I'd rather be tank/barrel tasting if I'm looking for pre-malo wine.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 5:36:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Craig,

When I was at Scripps/La Jolla, I took care of a pt ... his son gave me a bottle of wine as a thank you and I still have the bottling.
It's labelled:
                     Joey Tensley's Inaugural Bottling
                     1995 Chardonnay
                     bottled at Fess Parker Winery

I never drank it, then held on to it for some strange reason, now know that Joey went on to do pretty well in the wine business.
Don't know that I will ever drink it, but if I can get out to Los Olivos I would love to bring it along and pop it with him.
Often it is the thought ...

TC


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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 8:37:18 PM   
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Craig,

When I was at Scripps/La Jolla, I took care of a pt ... his son gave me a bottle of wine as a thank you and I still have the bottling.
It's labelled:
                    Joey Tensley's Inaugural Bottling
                    1995 Chardonnay
                    bottled at Fess Parker Winery

I never drank it, then held on to it for some strange reason, now know that Joey went on to do pretty well in the wine business.
Don't know that I will ever drink it, but if I can get out to Los Olivos I would love to bring it along and pop it with him.
Often it is the thought ...

TC



Oh yes, TC, don't think that I don't appreciate the thought.  I just thought I could share the irony with some fellow wine lovers.  Actually, the majority of the wine I get as gifts are from my Italian patients who order grapes from CA and make their own wine.  Most of it is not bad--and always more enjoyable as it is home made.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 8:45:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Particularly with the Italians (shades of "Moonstruck" ... taught to me by my Critical Care/ICU attending when I was an Intern), I find that they also want me to come to their home for dinner.  While initally uncomfortable with this, I have learned that this is a heartfelt expression of gratitude and a wonderful experience.  I actually am so old-school that, while in the military, my patients would bring me eggs, home-made sausage, fresh charcuterie from the farm, etc.  A far better payment than what I get from Medicare and many of the private payors now.



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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 8:53:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		When I was an intern in the cardiac surgery unit - aside from pretty much doing whatever the nurses told me to do - we had a patient that owned an Italian restaurant.  Every day - lunch and dinner - they would feed the entire unit's staff.  We were very sorry to see them go, but I got a pretty clear picture of how he wound up there.

Of course, now that I'm all grown up as a radiologist I sit in a dark room and read the forum - er, films.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 9:10:07 PM   
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Luke/GBM, join the dark side.

Don't know how you can sit in a dark room all day and look at films without nodding ... maybe if I had access to CT Forum I could survive.  My tolerance is 4 echoes, and then I have to walk.
Give me the cath lab ... it's dark but I am vertical and using my hands. (My apologies if you are IR).

I hope when that pt "went," he went home and not "to Chicago."

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 9:42:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		That patient left on his own two feet. 

I'm not IR - don't know how those/you guys can walk around in lead all day.  It used to drive me crazy in residency.  I do biopsies and arthrograms, though, which keeps things interesting.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/20/2008 10:18:07 PM   
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Actually, the majority of the wine I get as gifts are from my Italian patients who order grapes from CA and make their own wine.  Most of it is not bad--and always more enjoyable as it is home made.


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Particularly with the Italians (shades of "Moonstruck" ... taught to me by my Critical Care/ICU attending when I was an Intern), I find that they also want me to come to their home for dinner.  While initally uncomfortable with this, I have learned that this is a heartfelt expression of gratitude and a wonderful experience. 


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When I was an intern in the cardiac surgery unit - aside from pretty much doing whatever the nurses told me to do - we had a patient that owned an Italian restaurant.  Every day - lunch and dinner - they would feed the entire unit's staff. 


Ahhh.... My lot.
Our generosity has no end...

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/21/2008 4:26:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		So Maestro ...
when are you inviting us for dinner?  And wine?

TC

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/21/2008 5:05:30 AM   
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So Maestro ...
when are you inviting us for dinner?  And wine?

TC


If you can make it to Calabria, anytime...


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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/21/2008 7:10:10 AM   
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Status: online 		Went to the wine merchant today to pick up some white from Austria that I had ordered and saw the BN there.

Then I saw this one. Looked interesting as it had a proper label and a proper cork, and it was marked "Vieilles Vignes Non-Filtré", which you wouldn't normally associate with BN.

Couldn't resits and picked up one bottle. Just got home and my wife pronnounced me "incurable" and "pathetic"... (Yet, she will sure be sharing it. )

We will taste it tonight after dinner... Very low expectations, as usual.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/21/2008 7:57:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I seem to remember an article in WS a few months ago that talked about the rejuvenation or reinvention (or re-something) of Beaujolais. I hope you have a second wine for tonight Maestro.  The article wasn't that convincing.


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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/21/2008 8:47:47 AM   
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I hope you have a second wine for tonight Maestro. 




Don't you worry...

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/21/2008 1:48:37 PM   
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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/21/2008 9:15:17 PM   
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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/24/2008 4:17:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Haven't purchased any BN in a few years, so today I went and picked up a bottle of the standard G. Duboeuf.  If you like bananas this is your wine!  Still, very nice and fruity with a smooth finish.  I've tasted much worse, including the $60 sweet fruit bomb Cali Cab I had this weekend.  Worth trying.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/24/2008 5:49:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had the Drouhin at a retail tasting a couple of days ago and it was not good. A little more weight than I remember from previous years but the big problem is rotten fruit. It hits you strong in the finish after the wine has oxidized in your mouth. It's so bad I consider it a flaw, but that's my opinion. So what does that mean about '08?

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/24/2008 8:05:20 PM   
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I had the Drouhin at a retail tasting a couple of days ago and it was not good. A little more weight than I remember from previous years but the big problem is rotten fruit. It hits you strong in the finish after the wine has oxidized in your mouth. It's so bad I consider it a flaw, but that's my opinion. So what does that mean about '08?


esb, have you ever had the Willakenzie Gamay?  I kinda liked it especially with the duck dish with which it was paired.  Haven't had it for a couple of years, though.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/25/2008 1:45:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Craig, I agree, I like it too. It's one of the wines I try to taste each vintage and their Pinot Meunier as well. Both are small production but I can usually find them locally - the advantage of being close to the source. The Gamay Noir always seems to have more character and stuffing but both are made in an oak aged, real wine style. But not so much oak that it emphasizes truffle/earth over upfront berries. I stopped by the tasting room a while back and the staff pouring indicated it was best in warm vintages, 2002, 2003, .. most of the recent ones with the exception of 2007. I have also had Gamay Noir from Brick House and Chehalem but not enough to have an opinion on the wines although Brick House has a growing positive reputation for the variety. Concerning food pairings I think it's very versatile with the higher acidity and light body.

If you haven't stopped by the winery, make it a priority on your next trip West. Beautiful place and good PN too. holiday

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 11/26/2008 8:50:51 PM   
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Craig, I agree, I like it too. It's one of the wines I try to taste each vintage and their Pinot Meunier as well. Both are small production but I can usually find them locally - the advantage of being close to the source. The Gamay Noir always seems to have more character and stuffing but both are made in an oak aged, real wine style. But not so much oak that it emphasizes truffle/earth over upfront berries. I stopped by the tasting room a while back and the staff pouring indicated it was best in warm vintages, 2002, 2003, .. most of the recent ones with the exception of 2007. I have also had Gamay Noir from Brick House and Chehalem but not enough to have an opinion on the wines although Brick House has a growing positive reputation for the variety. Concerning food pairings I think it's very versatile with the higher acidity and light body.

If you haven't stopped by the winery, make it a priority on your next trip West. Beautiful place and good PN too. holiday


I did make it to the winery in 2007 on our annual trip to the Willamette Valley but, sadly, they were sold out of the Gamay Noir.  It was nice to eat lunch outside on the deck, though, and take in the vineyards.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 12/5/2008 5:59:30 PM   
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Status: online 		On a complete whim, I just picked up a bottle of the Georges Duboeuf 08 BN.  Should go well with the spicy nachos tonight. 

This thing is a little fruit monster with a side order of bubblegum!  We even poured some in little a little popsicle tray and put it in the freezer.  Not sure if it will freeze but if it does it should be fun.

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 12/5/2008 8:27:29 PM   
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We even poured some in little a little popsicle tray and put it in the freezer.  Not sure if it will freeze but if it does it should be fun.



You have to let us know how that turns out. 

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RE: Le Beaujolais nouveau est arrivé!... Il n'est pas ... - 12/5/2008 10:47:09 PM   
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We even poured some in little a little popsicle tray and put it in the freezer.  Not sure if it will freeze but if it does it should be fun.



You have to let us know how that turns out. 


They froze..  we'll see how they taste tomorrow.  I do not have high hopes but I will post a BN popsicle pic for you.

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