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jamscreator -> Well paint me pink and call me sissy! (2/10/2008 10:04:16 AM)

Did anyone know that Robert Parker is part owner with his brother-in-law of a micro winery called Beaux Freres?     

http://www.beauxfreres.com/

While Parker himself claims that they are not the best wines, they sure seem to be proud of them with their prices.  I've checked about a dozen different vintages on CT and see very few tasting notes.  I honestly figured I would see the Parker haters taking their digs there.  Maybe it is just that nobody is interested in his wines??

Can someone please please please recommend a very tasty bottle of Pinot Noir for me that won't break the bank?  Every Pinot I've tried has been comparable to rain water in a barrel. 



Blue Shorts -> RE: Well paint me pink and call me sissy! (2/10/2008 10:14:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jamscreator


Can someone please please please recommend a very tasty bottle of Pinot Noir for me that won't break the bank?  Every Pinot I've tried has been comparable to rain water in a barrel. 


Muccigrosso is a very small winery that makes an excellent Pinot Noir ($35).  My favorite is Savannah-Channelle Tina Marie 2004 $50.  They also make another very good pinot... Armagh 2003-2005. ($35)

One of my wife's favorites is Bernardus Monterey County 2006 ($24)



bschwindtcoffee -> RE: Well paint me pink and call me sissy! (2/10/2008 11:50:51 AM)

Crazy about RP's connection with that winery.

One of my favorites is 2005 Patton Valley Estate P.N.  $33   -- If you prefer a more fruit forward the 2004 vintage comes throught with a bit softer tannins.

Cheers!

Brandon



Maestro -> RE: Well paint me pink and call me sissy! (2/10/2008 2:31:05 PM)

If you have no experiece with Pinot Noir, I think that the 2002 and 2004 vintages of the following wine:

"Michele & Patrice Rion Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Clos des Argillières"

...seem to help people who don't know the variety to grasp its beauty very quickly.

The 2002 is better than the 2004, but if you don't find the '02, the '04 will do. Open and pour it -- do not decant it.
The wine shows the purity of Pinot Noir very well and seems to be a safe bet.

The '02 will age very well, but that is beside the point. It is a great way to understand the varietal character without venturing into complicated and risky wines or spending 6,000++ bucks on a DRC.

For new world wines, try "Truchard Pinot Noir from Carneros" (2005 drinking really well now) or "Felton Road Pinot Noir" from New Zealand (try the 2006 if you can find it).

If you just won the lotery: 1990 Domaine de la Romanee Conti La Tache -- will send you straight to Paradise and back, before you declare bankruptcy when you realize what you paid for it...



apes -> RE: Well paint me pink and call me sissy! (2/10/2008 3:30:11 PM)

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"Michele & Patrice Rion Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Clos des Argillières

"Michele & Patrice Rion Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Clos des Argillières

did an online search and only found the 2005 for over $100 a bottle. Have you bought either online, if so where and how much?



Maestro -> RE: Well paint me pink and call me sissy! (2/10/2008 4:34:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: apes

did an online search and only found the 2005 for over $100 a bottle. Have you bought either online, if so where and how much?




I did not buy it online, but in the local merchant. Paid $65 for the 2004 and $72 for the 2002. I recently bought the 2005 too, for $92. 2005 prices in Burgundt went off the roof.



Serge Birbrair -> RE: Well paint me pink and call me sissy! (2/10/2008 7:17:47 PM)

I used to like and enjoy Beaux Freres wine after this tasting.
Visiting the Beaux Freres winery helped too. But..I stopped buying the wines after 2004 vintage, the prices went insane and I found cheaper wines in Burgundy.




mbannon -> RE: Well paint me pink and call me sissy! (2/11/2008 2:37:51 PM)

In my experience, Pinot Noir is the one grape that can safely be said "inexpensive grapes = cheap wine."  I'm still searching for PN under $30 that is worth the price tag.

However, that $30 mark seems to be a real benchmark for quality.  Anything above it is typically good wine.  Anything below it is typically "okay" at best.  There are exceptions, of course, but not nearly as many as with other grape varieties.



scottr1968 -> RE: Well paint me pink and call me sissy! (2/18/2008 6:17:22 AM)

If you like young Oregon Pinot's:

Ayres 2006 from Willamette Valley is a surprisingly good wine and value at $22. 

Also just drank a Ken Wright Carter Vineyard 2006 that was probably the best Oregon Pinot I have come across - it runs about $45.  This one has many years to get even better.



cgrimes -> RE: Well paint me pink and call me sissy! (2/25/2008 7:22:16 PM)

I have a few bottles of Belles Soeurs, Beaux Freres' "second wine" which is good and less pricey (it is now called Beaux Freres Willamette Valley).  I also have stopped buying BF for the most part--You can get an Echezeaux or a Clos de Vougeot, or Corton for equal or less--and there is much more of a track record with these.  As for an affordable, drinkable pinot--look to Oregon--and they tend to be appropriately lighter than the bombs from CA.  Try a Lange Willamette Valley or even an Argyle.  Not the most profound wine you'll ever taste but for less than $20 it's better than what most of CA can offer.



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