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cgrimes -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/27/2008 8:43:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tomandlu

Thanks for the advice on the 2002 vintage.  I have read the reviews and they are certainly laudatory.  For me, 2002 in Burgundy was released at a time when I was focusing on other regions, hence I didn't buy.  I have some 1999 and oodles of 2005 in the cellar but no 2002.  That is particularly unfortunate since 2002 is also quite good in Oregon and I thoroughly enjoy serving wines from both Pinot regions blind at dinner with guests.  Time to go get some 2002 Burgundy from good sources!

Tom


When you get to Boston and settle in, send me an email.  I'm partial to Peking Duck and '02 Burgundy in Chinatown [image]http://www.cellartracker.com/forum/image/s2.gif[/image]




Rak -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/28/2008 5:25:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Paul S

Humbert Freres Bourgogne 2002. Great value for a Bourgogne Rouge, so you will see this again in the "best value" thread. My second bottle, and I enjoyed this far more than the last one for some reason or another.


Thank you for this recommendation Paul S. Always on the look out for good value wines in general and red Burgundies in particular. Do you have any information on this unfamiliar name to me?

Happy drinking!




Rak -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/28/2008 5:36:38 AM)

The last few bottles sampled:

2004 Meo-Camuzet Bourgogne Rouge (struck me as rather decent; bought a case recently)
2003 Moss Wood Cabernet/Merlot Ribbon Vale(great fruit but I found the tannins a little drying). Would like to try more wines from this producer.

This evening I'll drink a 2002 Volnay Vieilles Vignes from Nicolas Potel. Very pleasant fruit forward (for Burgundy) style when I last sampled it! Strikes me as being a good value?

Happy drinking!




Colonel Lawrence -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/28/2008 5:55:59 AM)

Moet et Chandon, Premier Cru Chablis Montmain and a rather pleasant 2005 Don Melchor.




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/28/2008 7:30:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rak

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ORIGINAL: Paul S

Humbert Freres Bourgogne 2002. Great value for a Bourgogne Rouge, so you will see this again in the "best value" thread. My second bottle, and I enjoyed this far more than the last one for some reason or another.


Thank you for this recommendation Paul S. Always on the look out for good value wines in general and red Burgundies in particular. Do you have any information on this unfamiliar name to me?

Happy drinking!



"Freres" of course means "brothers" in French, hence the Humbert brothers. Check out this link: for more info on them http://www.divine-burgundy-wine.com/visu.php3?id=30

Very up and coming producer, primarily in Gevrey. I have tried their Bourgogne and the Gevrey Village, both of which were really, really good. The 1er Crus are sitting in the cellar waiting for their time. However, I hear that quality gets better and better as you up the chain.




NiklasW -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/28/2008 8:14:04 AM)

Inspired by the recent threads on Burgundy as well as an old thread on minerality, I tasted side by side a Chablis and a Chassagne-Montrachet. Both were very good [:)], certainly very different to any white wines I've had before! 




cgrimes -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/28/2008 7:10:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NiklasW

Inspired by the recent threads on Burgundy as well as an old thread on minerality, I tasted side by side a Chablis and a Chassagne-Montrachet. Both were very good [image]http://www.cellartracker.com/forum/image/s1.gif[/image], certainly very different to any white wines I've had before! 


Ahh, Niklas may be getting the bug!  Watch your pocketbook, my friend.  [image]http://www.cellartracker.com/forum/image/s4.gif[/image]




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/28/2008 7:17:09 PM)

Haha, certainly seems that way. Next in line, some Chablis from Reveneau and Dauvissat, and a couple of Chassagne-Montrachet from Ramonet and Leflaive. Will not murder your pocket book if you stay away from their high-end wines, but worth a try to see the step up in quality.




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/28/2008 7:20:34 PM)

Just had a Pahlmeyer Jayson's red 2004, rather dissapointing: http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=296642

And a couple of US Pinots, both not bad:
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=105094 (Saintsbury from Carneros - great value I think); and
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=173547 (Freeman from Sonoma)

I seem to be going against the grain in my ratings of the last two wines though!




Serge Birbrair -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/28/2008 8:09:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cgrimes

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ORIGINAL: NiklasW

Inspired by the recent threads on Burgundy as well as an old thread on minerality, I tasted side by side a Chablis and a Chassagne-Montrachet. Both were very good [image]http://www.cellartracker.com/forum/image/s1.gif[/image], certainly very different to any white wines I've had before! 


Ahh, Niklas may be getting the bug!  Watch your pocketbook, my friend.  [image]http://www.cellartracker.com/forum/image/s4.gif[/image]


Eric,
I think threads about Burgundy should be rated XXX. The stuff is more addictive than heroin!
:)




1800kidney -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/29/2008 12:18:54 AM)

Jayson is Pahlmeyer's second label, pretty good stuff though your rating on the 2004 is on target. Their standard line is twice as expensive but not necessarily twice as good, though definitely better. keep an eye out for 2005! Their pinot noir debutted in 2005 and is lovely, 2005 Merlot has been released but their proprietary red will be out in September last time I checked

DGW




NiklasW -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/29/2008 12:29:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cgrimes

Ahh, Niklas may be getting the bug!  Watch your pocketbook, my friend.  [;)]


There is nothing to see in my pocketbook anymore, it's empty [:(] Seriously, we have a very poor selection of Burgundy here in Finland, so the time is soon ripe to look towards the internet retailers in central Europe! The sad thing is that I have twice driven through the Burgundy area, but didn't stop (had a schedule to keep), but happily, I will most likely be driving through there again in the future. [:)]




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/29/2008 5:50:33 AM)

Problem with Burgundy is that most of the producers will not see you unless you make an appointment ahead of time. After that comes the language problem - the younger generation generally speak English, haltingly or not. However, much of the older generation ofwine makers are Fench speaking. After you cross that barrier, you face the most difficult challenge, getting them to sell you their wines. You either 1. have to be a pretty young girl; or 2. beg, beg and beg.




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/29/2008 6:34:22 AM)

By the way, I just drank.... too much bad wine at a retailer's wine sale / tasting. You are welcome to check out my notes for 28/6/2008 under User #44749, but you'll probably find a constant spiel of rather gruff and unhappy TNs.




pault -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/29/2008 12:48:34 PM)

Decided to have a glass of Columbia crest Grand estates Merlot 2001 while on the deck,  went down very nice, flavorful  and the alcohol was not overpowering. Think that was my last bottle of 01.. Will finish the rest with dinner..




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/30/2008 5:41:19 AM)

Great joy! Clos des Papes 2003 from a 375ml bottling. L05DP - One of the good bottles, beautiful wine. Tasting notes to follow soon. 




Wrighty -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/30/2008 7:09:30 AM)

Great sadness - opened a 2007 Jackson Estate Sauv Blanc and thought it was a Gewurztraminer, then pulled out a 1999 Bava Barolo Contrabasso di Castiglione Falletto and although OK with food went downhill.  Am thinking of heading back to the fridge for a 3rd bottle.  The sink could be drunk tonight!




amm3rd -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/30/2008 7:37:07 AM)

WOW!!!! IS THIS BAD WINE...

http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=455632

Now that I'm thinking about it, probably should be 80 points!

How can we start a boycot on this wine?  AMM




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/30/2008 9:01:56 AM)

Ohhh... Italian whites from Alto Adige - great hit and miss region.

Here's my rather too-long winded note on the Clos des Papes 3 hours on from the first pour and decant. http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=31665 . What a lovely wine. Sorry to hear about your woes Wrighty, but we have our good days and bad days all. I think I am due this after my fair share of Bordeaux Blanc / Plonk and other nonsense at my wine retailer's rather rubbish sales / tasting on Saturday.




rjonas -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (6/30/2008 9:27:01 AM)

Had a delightful '04 OR Pinot last night with dinner, Zelko "Z'ivo" Pinot Noir.  Balanced fruit and a nice perfumy nose.




GalvezGuy -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (7/1/2008 10:31:09 AM)

I was pleasantly surprised by the 2004 Valley of the Moon Cabernet Sauvignon.  It had several interesting qualities at an entry level price. 




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (7/2/2008 10:00:08 AM)

Highland Park 18 year - does that count? Oh, I do love my single malts, especially good ones like an old-ish Highland Park.




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (7/3/2008 9:31:55 AM)

Grosset Polish Hill Riesling 2007. http://www.cellartracker.com/list.asp?Table=Notes&szSearch=polish

Always wanted to try this much hyped wine. Found it really good, but not mind-blowing, not even close to it. Has anyone tried other vintages of this? What do you think?




Serge Birbrair -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (7/3/2008 11:14:21 AM)

Had it with friends yesterday at the one and only authentic Chinese restaurant in South Florida -
great juice, bought 6 bottles of it today,
the best New Zealand SB on the market today, IMHO




Rak -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (7/4/2008 8:21:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Paul S

Grosset Polish Hill Riesling 2007. http://www.cellartracker.com/list.asp?Table=Notes&szSearch=polish

Always wanted to try this much hyped wine. Found it really good, but not mind-blowing, not even close to it. Has anyone tried other vintages of this? What do you think?


Hello Paul S,

I really like this wine but find that it's somewhat closed for a few years. It needs time I think. His Watervale bottling is delicious and drinks much earlier. I sampled the 2005 recently; can still taste it!

Happy drinking!




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (7/4/2008 9:11:42 AM)

Ah well - I was deciding between the two bottlings and decided to try the more vaunted one. There's always a next time. In the meantime, I have two bottles of 2001 Howard Park riesling waiting to try. I must tell you, I am trying to open my mind here, but I still find German and Alsatian Riesling way ahead of the rest of the field.




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (7/4/2008 9:13:25 AM)

By the way, had 2 Cotes du Rhone on the same day by co-incidence. One popped by one of my wine importers, another over dinner. Both very decent.

1998 Gramenon Pascal http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=24105
2005 Coudulet de Beaucastel http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=302825




Wrighty -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (7/4/2008 9:28:27 AM)

Paul,

Am a big fan of Aussie riesling but have never understood the Grosset Polish Hill. Would say closed and chalky. Have an 01 I think sitting waiting to age to try see if it needs ten years to start.

Would recommend Seppelt's Drumborg and Jacob's Creek Steingarten instead.

Wrighty




Paul S -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (7/4/2008 9:32:19 AM)

Thanks for the tip - well check those out. Early drinking wines or should I age them or, better yet, try to find some aged ones.




Maestro -> RE: I Just Drank ............ (7/5/2008 3:29:33 PM)

A wonderful Nero d'Avola from Sicily...

[:D]




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