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Serge Birbrair -> sweet................ (7/12/2008 9:36:59 PM)

what are your favorite dessert wines?



Blue Shorts -> RE: sweet................ (7/12/2008 10:05:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Serge Birbrair

what are your favorite dessert wines?


Funny you should ask.

Right now, I'm sipping a beautiful 2004 Alvear Montilla-Moriles Pedro Ximénez de Añada. It's sweet, smooth and wonderful.  One of the best dessert wines I've had the pleasure to enjoy.  I highly recommend it.



cgrimes -> RE: sweet................ (7/12/2008 11:29:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Serge Birbrair

what are your favorite dessert wines?


The sweet Chenin Blancs from Baumard--especially Quarts de Chaume.  I also like Auslese or above German Rieslings.

Yum.



Maestro -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 1:15:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cgrimes

The sweet Chenin Blancs from Baumard--especially Quarts de Chaume.  I also like Auslese or above German Rieslings.

Yum.


Hear, hear. I second that.

And Canadian Icewine too.



Colonel Lawrence -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 1:26:39 AM)

Does a good vintage port count - goes well with the cheese course.
Other than that the only sweet drink I consume would be a very ocassional sherry.
Dry and bitter sums me up.
L.



Serge Birbrair -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 5:13:10 AM)

I have to say Tokajii close followed by Rieslings and Ice wine.



JohnNezlek -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 7:02:50 AM)

At different times, I have had and enjoyed all of the above, with probably Sauternes as the "standard". If you like Sauternes, allow me to recommend Kourtaki Samos, a sweet muscat wine from Greece. Not expensive (in fact, it can be had for $10 or less a bottle), and for the money, simply wonderful. It is non-vintage, although I did allow a bottle to rest for 5 or so years and it did develop as you might expect -- darker, more raisiny, etc. Can't imagine it has any true long term cellaring potential, but I buy it by the case just to have around. Apropos the other thread, I serve Sauternes as both an aperitif (or to accompany a starter) and a dessert wine with cheese, nuts, and the usual. I have always enjoyed it and related wines -- the Aussies make sime very nice ones, many of which appear to be available only in Australia (or even at the vineyard). Great touring down under.

Cheers,

John 



Paul S -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 8:48:15 AM)

Depends on which occasion I guess, but Sauterenes are rather speical for me, especially given their ability to age. Very cliched I know, but I like D'Yquem, Rieussec and Suduiraut, in that order. The older the better usuallly. Although I must say that Rieussec has taken on a more and more special place in my dessert wine pantheon. I just love that smoky, spicy bit that no other sticky has.

For more acid, and hence more versatility with food (in my mind at least), I would go for an Auslese or even a fun little Moscato d'Asti.

Finally, with cheese, aged port, whether vintage or a 30 or older year tawny.

I tend to find Canadian ice-wines and Spanish PX too sweet, German ice-wines too expensive, and TBAs needing too much time in the bottle before they shed their baby fat. Sherry is okay every now and then, especially with chocolate for me.



cgrimes -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 9:58:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Maestro


quote:

ORIGINAL: cgrimes

The sweet Chenin Blancs from Baumard--especially Quarts de Chaume.  I also like Auslese or above German Rieslings.

Yum.


And Canadian Icewine too.


I've never had Canadian Eiswein.  So many things to look forward to...[image]http://www.cellartracker.com/forum/image/s1.gif[/image]

BTW I also like Kracher...Yum again.



deb293 -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 10:03:22 AM)

Time to hunt this down:

http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=31074



cgrimes -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 10:09:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: deb293

Time to hunt this down:

http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=31074


My best bet for this would to ask my friend in France to raid his family cellar--I'll bet this is in there.  Both he and his wife grew up in Bordeaux.  I have tasted the '90 with them--pretty damn good.



deb293 -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 10:33:39 AM)

I went on a cycling trip to Bordeaux a bunch of years back, and in the town of Sauternes a shopkeeper called the Chateau for me and they claimed to have none.  Rare Wine Co. occasionally has some.

The 1981, 1989 and 1990 are all spectacular (with an edge to the 1989, IMHO).  Cuvee Madame is not made very year.  Went to a vertical tasting of Coutet in 2004, and the Cuvee Madames wound up the evening.  Memorable!

(Craig, you already know my weakness for sweeties...)



Serge Birbrair -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 10:38:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: deb293

Time to hunt this down:

http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=31074


Holy mother of Cow!

The price is now even 50% higher!



deb293 -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 10:51:30 AM)

Ow!  That's scary.  This used to be a "hidden" treasure at about $250.  Keep searching.  It doesn't have the cachet of d'Yquem, which a good thing.  Hopefully people will stop noticing it.  I was thrilled when Wine Spectator only gave it 90 pts!



GalvezGuy -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 10:55:09 AM)

I think they all have their place and time.

I usually prefer to have them in lieu of dessert.  There are not many sweeties that I don't like although sometimes PX and Canadian Icewines can be overwhelming on their own, I tend to like them poured over ice cream.



Pavie Princess -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 4:24:09 PM)

Y'yquem, Climens, Suduiraut, Guiraud, Rieussec, Lafaurie-Peyraguey, Raymond Lafon, Caillou are some of my fav stickies..............



Serge Birbrair -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 7:04:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pavie Princess

Caillou are some of my fav stickies..............


I hope you are not referring to 1947 from ABC...
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=95961

How you been, babes, I missed you. Say what you want but I'd rather have you with no conspiracy theories attached than the alternatives
;)



tacman -> RE: sweet................ (7/13/2008 8:01:55 PM)

All great, and for something truly unique y'all should try to get a bottle of Phillip Togni's "Ca'Togni"
Think liquid rose petals!

TC



esb -> RE: sweet................ (8/9/2008 12:02:56 PM)

This one deserves a mention - '03 Chateau Bel Air, Sainte-Croix-Du-Mont. I have had several over the last month and it has become a new inexpensive house favorite. It is complex, layered and very satisfying after dinner.




Old_Winyards -> RE: sweet................ (8/9/2008 3:59:53 PM)

I'm partial to Chenin Blanc and Riesling-based dessert wines.  As a broad generalization, I'll enjoy those over most Sauternes any day of the week.  



fingers -> RE: sweet................ (8/9/2008 8:30:29 PM)

Shout out to Takaji Aszu.  I also like various LH muscats and a good port.



Birger Vejrum -> RE: sweet................ (8/9/2008 10:40:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Serge Birbrair

I have to say Tokajii close followed by Rieslings and Ice wine.


Hi Serge,

I remember you spoke highly about this one [image]http://www.cellartracker.com/forum/image/s4.gif[/image]

[image]http://www.sikulae.com/images/Ben_rye_donnafugata.jpg[/image]
Ciao
Birger



zymurgist -> RE: sweet................ (8/9/2008 10:58:38 PM)

Vintage Port. 



Wrighty -> RE: sweet................ (8/10/2008 5:38:56 AM)

Sauternes, Tokaji and Riesling although nearly all the vintage ports I've had have been excellent, some how though doesn't hold the excitment of the others.

Wrighty



NiklasW -> RE: sweet................ (8/10/2008 7:50:18 AM)

Haven't had too many stickies yet, but Chateau Rives-Blanques Xaxa from Limoux in the Languedoc was very nice indeed.



Uncle Noon -> RE: sweet................ (8/12/2008 5:27:59 PM)

I've had a 2002 Pierre Sparr Vendanges Tardives Gewurztraminer which was good and a 2001 Doisy Vedrines which was enjoyed by all who had it.  I enjoy a good port such as Warre's 1997 Vintage Port with a cigar after a good meal.



cgrimes -> RE: sweet................ (8/12/2008 7:50:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Uncle Noon

I've had a 2002 Pierre Sparr Vendanges Tardives Gewurztraminer which was good and a 2001 Doisy Vedrines which was enjoyed by all who had it.  I enjoy a good port such as Warre's 1997 Vintage Port with a cigar after a good meal.


How can anyone appreciate ANY wine, fortified or other, alongside a cigar?  If I still have trouble getting the taste of a cigar out of my mouth the next day, I can bet that I did not really taste that port the night before.  It really mystifies me...[image]http://www.cellartracker.com/forum/image/s8.gif[/image]



nwinther -> RE: sweet................ (8/13/2008 5:27:30 AM)

By far (old) colheita port.



Uncle Noon -> RE: sweet................ (8/14/2008 6:41:58 AM)

First of all it's got to be a good cigar.  Try a Montecristo White Rothchilde or something of that caliber. If you taste cigar the next morning you are either not smoking a good cigar or not good at smoking a cigar.  How anyone can smoke a cigar without learning how to smoke it properly and then berating those who do really mystifies me.



cgrimes -> RE: sweet................ (8/14/2008 7:39:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Uncle Noon

First of all it's got to be a good cigar.  Try a Montecristo White Rothchilde or something of that caliber. If you taste cigar the next morning you are either not smoking a good cigar or not good at smoking a cigar.  How anyone can smoke a cigar without learning how to smoke it properly and then berating those who do really mystifies me.


Touche! [image]http://www.cellartracker.com/forum/image/s4.gif[/image]  Sorry.  No berating intended.  Just my pigheaded anti smoking opinion.  Will keep it to myself.



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