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Hollowine -> Wine and Poker (7/25/2008 5:18:44 PM)

So new to the board, but addicted to CT now that I have most of my cellar online and can finally manage it efficiently. I've been baking this idea for a few years, wanted to see if you all might contribute to the mix and see what might be a fun way to blend my two favorite hobbies.

I've been thinking it would be great to find a small group of local friends that have more interest in Wine than reds with meat, whites with fish, and who also would enjoy a friendly game of poker every few weeks. My thoughts were that a 2-3 hour card game with some great wines and conversation might be a fun way to relax, and afford the opportunity to experience some wines you may not try on your own. Here are a few of the thoughts I've had about how to structure this, and I am open to comments or other suggestions:

On the Poker front:
I'm thinking it pretty much can't be a cash game. The legal aspects of that are one major reason, because one of the ideas I had was to use this nice alcove room in a local restaurant who said they would be happy to host the games, especially in the winter months. The other challenge with cash games is that not everyone who drinks wine is necessarily a good poker player, so I don't want people feeling like they are just human ATM's. Also, most of us would rather spend the dough on more wine. But as in any game of chance, someone does want to be the winner, even if just ceremonially.

On the Wine Front:
The point here is to enjoy the wine, so I don't want $7 bottles bought at Safeway on the drive over showing up. Granted, we aren't going to do First Growth Bordeaux night either, but I think we could figure it out. We also want to drink responsibly, so if 9 people each bring a bottle, we likely aren't going to want to drink nine bottles...ok, so we are going to want to drink nine bottles, but we probably won't and shouldn't. Also, there should probably be some kind of theme (Suicide Cab's, Bullets and Bordeaux, etc) at least some of the time to keep it interesting, and there should be some democracy to set the theme so we aren't drinking Aussie Shiraz every week.

So here is what my current thoughts for the mechanics are:

  • Have a group of 8-10 people that hopefully are regulars, but maybe it is a group as large as 20 so that we can always get a table of 8-10 together due to schedules, etc.
  • Play at least once/month so we have something to look forward to.
  • Set a theme for each get together (Region, Varietal, Price, QPR, etc)
  • Everyone brings a bottle within the theme, but they are all brought Blind (Bagged). The Buy-in and "posting of the Blinds" is literally you bring the bottle, add it to the pot and you get your allocation of chips (Should Chips be allocated based on Bottle Price??)
  • Everyone draws a card - High card and Low card have to open their bottles for the group to share during the event. If additional bottles need to be opened during the night, we choose randomly (or maybe we give people the option to bring a "hey, you gotta try this" additional bottle that can be "off theme"
  • The winner of the night (basically whoever wins all the chips) gets the remaining bottles as their "Booty" to take home. Additional fun might result from unwrapping the blind winnings to see what you get to take home for your cellar.
  • At the end of each session, vote on a theme for next gathering, or let winner or first out (loser) to pick theme.


What do you all think? I'm sure at least someone would have a good idea I could incorporate, if you aren't already doing something similar.

Any poker players among the vinoheads here? I live near Hood River, OR but would like to try to get something going here or in Portland if you are nearby and/or interested. Would be willing to consider once or twice a year Road trips if others might be interested, but I think the stakes would maybe have to be raised for those "World Series of Wines" events.

Cheers!




Serge Birbrair -> RE: Wine and Poker (7/25/2008 5:25:22 PM)

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Doryman -> RE: Wine and Poker (7/25/2008 5:38:28 PM)

I love poker & wine but what country are you in?




Hollowine -> RE: Wine and Poker (7/25/2008 6:27:42 PM)

Pacific NW (Oregon/Washington) in the US. I get up to Halifax every now and again, haven't yet made it to St. Johns




duck833 -> RE: Wine and Poker (7/25/2008 6:31:57 PM)

I think under current Oregon laws as long as the house doesn't get a rake you can have a cash game.




fingers -> RE: Wine and Poker (7/26/2008 3:03:38 PM)

Funny you bring this up Scott.  I am amazed at the timing of some of these threads!  Tonight is poker night with a group of friends that I've had friendly games going for over 20 years.  Back then it was Jack Daniel's and Heineken.  Now, as the resident wine geek of the bunch, it's Prosecco and Petit Sirah.  The group covers my buy-in to the game and I bring the juice.  We usually have 6 or 7 players and the deal passes after each game.  I will open something after each round of deals up to 4 or 5 bottles for the night.  Now I don't bring expensive wine, but I think I treat them pretty well.  Here's tonights selections, in the order I plan on opening:

Pre-game:
2007 Traversa Piemonte Brachetto

Opening round:
2006 Ovene Winery Muscat Canelli Opolo

Second round:
2005 Rosenblum Cellars Zinfandel Richard Sauret

Third round:
2003 Kay Brothers Shiraz Hillside Amery Vineyards

Fourth round, if needed:
2005 Château Puygueraud   (just  so they can all say they've tried a 2005 Bdx)

Final, dessert round:
2006 Chateau Ste. Michelle Riesling Ethos Late Harvest White Riesling


Hopefully, I can get them enebriated enough to stay in with siht cards.








WineandPoker -> RE: Wine and Poker (7/30/2008 2:09:54 PM)

Wine and Poker?  Who would put these two things together? 

I'm in Portland...always willing to play and drink.




WineandPoker -> RE: Wine and Poker (7/30/2008 2:11:29 PM)

By the way...I know a couple other winos here in Portland that could probably be talked into playing. 




Hollowine -> RE: Wine and Poker (7/30/2008 2:26:50 PM)

WineandPoker and Duck833, feel free to send me an email if you'd ever like to explore the idea of a game. I'm up the Gorge, but could always find a way to come in to Portland for a game occasionally.




Serge Birbrair -> RE: Wine and Poker (7/30/2008 5:52:39 PM)

I'll be in P:ortland next week...will you teach me how to play poker? Is it true that 3 aces are better than 2 aces and 2 kings?
;)

I know how to drink, less headaches for my poker teachers. Is $10 blind, $20 double blind a "friendly enough game"?

:)




Hollowine -> RE: Wine and Poker (7/30/2008 10:13:19 PM)

Seriously coming out this way Serge? A $10/$20 game will be fine, you just remember to contribute the '61 Latour and we will be happy to even throw a few hands until you get the feel of "winning".

As far as any other coaching with regards to poker, I'm suspecting you probably are a bit more familiar with the game than you are letting on, though by the timbre of your other posts I would guess for most of your games going "all in" involves a laundry hamper...






Serge Birbrair -> RE: Wine and Poker (7/31/2008 7:21:03 AM)

61 Latour???
I'll pass, I don't like Latour that much http://winereader.com/wines/Latour.html
:)




remeny1 -> RE: Wine and Poker (8/1/2008 1:59:33 PM)

Anyone interested in starting a poker and wine game in the Los Angeles area?




Hollowine -> RE: Wine and Poker (8/2/2008 1:21:17 PM)

Justin,

I get down to LA every couple of months on business, have been playing the Commerce Casino but would be interested in hooking up for a game with wine if you have others that would join.

Send me a note if you want to trade email addresses.

Scott




GalvezGuy -> RE: Wine and Poker (8/5/2008 11:54:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: duck833

I think under current Oregon laws as long as the house doesn't get a rake you can have a cash game.


Same as Texas




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