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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 10:55:09 AM   
fingers

 

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Status: offline 		I'm suddenly envisioning the scene from "Bottle Shock" whereas Jeremy, Rob, and I are trying to smuggle Cali wines to Niklas for the VT. 

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 10:58:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey, we've said many times before, no good US wines available in Europe! You guys drink it all before it gets over the Atlantic. One more I can get easily:

Robert Mondavi Private Selection Chardonnay



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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 10:58:46 AM   
NiklasW

 

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ORIGINAL: fingers

I'm suddenly envisioning the scene from "Bottle Shock" whereas Jeremy, Rob, and I are trying to smuggle Cali wines to Niklas for the VT. 


If somebody wants to send me a bottle of "olive oil"?

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 11:00:20 AM   
RoundersRob

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: NiklasW

Hey, we've said many times before, no good US wines available in Europe! You guys drink it all before it gets over the Atlantic. One more I can get easily:

Robert Mondavi Private Selection Chardonnay





Private Selection stuff from Mondavi is not that great either.  I am not sure who is making the selection but they would definitely make it in private so as not to be I.D'd so maybe that's where that designation comes from.  :)

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 11:02:35 AM   
grafstrb

 

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 11:08:42 AM   
NiklasW

 

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Status: offline 		Our dry white Bordeaux selection would not make your head spin either:

Château de Cruzeau 2006
Château Magence 2004
and a couple of cheap(er) Bordeaux AC


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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 11:16:18 AM   
RoundersRob

 

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Status: online 		Ok Niklas - time for you to take a drive over to Denmark and buy yourself some decent wine.  

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 11:20:49 AM   
NiklasW

 

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Status: offline 		Probably just have to pop over to Stockholm to get a better selection! Fortunately there are ferries going twice a day over, and I have collaborators there, so I go frequently.

Ahh yes, the Swedes always have it better:
White Bordeaux:
Château Cantelys
Château Coucheroy
Château Couhins-Lurton
Château de Chantegrive
Château de Fieuzal
Château de Madére        
Château de Rochemorin Blanc
Château La Louvière
Château Laville Haut-Brion
Château Limbourg
Château Mathalin du Hayot
Château Menota        
Château Olivier
Château Pape Clement Blanc

And California:
Foley Chardonnay Rancho Santa Rosa
Saintsbury Carneros Chardonnay
DeLoach OFS Chardonnay
Lynmar Russian River Chardonnay
Dutton Goldfield Chardonnay
Baileyana Grand Firepeak Cuvée Chardonnay
Hansel Family Vineyards Chardonnay North Slope
Melville Estate Chardonnay
Mount Harlan Chardonnay   
Ramey Chardonnay   
Mayacamas Chardonnay
2480 Chardonnay   
Merryvale Silhouette Chardonnay
Les Pierres
Far Niente Chardonnay
Carneros Chardonnay
Pahlmeyer Chardonnay
Kistler Dutton Ranch Chardonnay


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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 11:31:55 AM   
annerk

 

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ORIGINAL: NiklasW

Well, we have

Ironstone Vineyards Calaveras County Reserve Chardonnay

Fetzer Valley Oaks Chardonnay

Beringer Stone Cellars Chardonnay

and Turning Leaf Chardonnay

available here in Finland...



Excuse me, I need to take a handful of Zantac after simply looking at that list.

Truly deplorable, undrinkable, swill.

I would rather drink nothing than drink any of those.

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 11:35:00 AM   
NiklasW

 

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 11:41:56 AM   
annerk

 

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I can't comment on the French wines listed, but you've got some nice Cali Chard's on the list.  The Ramey, Far Niente, and Pahlmeyer are fine selections. 

Cakebread, Grgich Hills, Chateau Montelena, and ZD all have good to great Chardonnay's as well.  And a good option for a lower priced bottle would be J Lohr Riverstone Arroyo Seco.

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 11:48:32 AM   
jhannah27

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: NiklasW

Well, we have

Ironstone Vineyards Calaveras County Reserve Chardonnay

Fetzer Valley Oaks Chardonnay

Beringer Stone Cellars Chardonnay

and Turning Leaf Chardonnay

available here in Finland...



I wasn't going to say anything, but since everyone else has already ripped these wines.  These are truly, truly terrible wines. 

Thank god you Fins are so close to France and Germany.  If this was all you could get I would weep for you.


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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 11:52:23 AM   
jhannah27

 

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The Chateau Rochemorin Blanc is awesome and a really great QPR.  I recently had this for the first time a few weeks ago, got it for $17 US, and it really is a very enjoyable wine.

If that one can sneak into the tasting, I don't think people would be disappointed, especially for the price.  I am not sure how widely available it is though. 

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 12:00:36 PM   
NiklasW

 

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Status: offline 		Seems they have the 2006 in Sweden for 149 crowns, which is about 15 euros, which is about 18 dollars.

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 12:29:08 PM   
RoundersRob

 

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Status: online 		We could try for that one if it's somewhat available out there.  

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 7:28:14 PM   
tacman

 

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Status: offline 		Craig,
The Beaucastel Blancs are amazing ... some of the best, food-friendly white wines that exist on the planet (okay, just my opinion).  The regular bottling holds it own over time ... the VV truly does "dumb down" for a couple of years.  These are rich in honeysuckle and stone fruit and are very much worth the $$ - particularly the regular bottling.  I buy most of the very little that comes to town, and my friends always request these wines at our "French lunch club." 
The Cailloux is a much less expensive, yet still very wonderful expression of what white CdP can be all about.  Should be very available at a (relatively) low cost, and may be more suitable to a mass tasting.

TC

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 7:50:04 PM   
deb293

 

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Status: offline 		I beg to differ!  If you can get the Ramey Chardonnay "Ritchie" Vineyard that is a lovely wine.

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 8:39:56 PM   
cgrimes

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tacman

Craig,
The Beaucastel Blancs are amazing ... some of the best, food-friendly white wines that exist on the planet (okay, just my opinion).  The regular bottling holds it own over time ... the VV truly does "dumb down" for a couple of years.  These are rich in honeysuckle and stone fruit and are very much worth the $$ - particularly the regular bottling.  I buy most of the very little that comes to town, and my friends always request these wines at our "French lunch club." 
The Cailloux is a much less expensive, yet still very wonderful expression of what white CdP can be all about.  Should be very available at a (relatively) low cost, and may be more suitable to a mass tasting.

TC


I'm eager to try these wines.  I love the CdP blancs I have tried in the past and none have even been from the more high profile domaines.  I have also been dabbling in Hermitage blancs--bought a couple bottles from the late 90's which have aged nicely.  I have yet to get my paws on a Condrieu but understand that my patience and perserverance will be rewarded.  I think the white Rhones are a great break from the more traditional white grapes, and agree they are fabulous with food.
Craig

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 8:47:51 PM   
deb293

 

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I've managed to land a few of these http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=479029
Too obscure for a virtual tasting?

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 9:04:27 PM   
cgrimes

 

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ORIGINAL: deb293

Craig,

I've managed to land a few of these http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=479029
Too obscure for a virtual tasting?


Oh, you are lucky, Deb. Drink them young!!  You can taste them for me and then I'll experience them virtually

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/11/2008 9:04:41 PM   
RoundersRob

 

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Status: online 		Is this $80+?  Might be a little pricy or hard to find.

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/12/2008 6:31:04 AM   
Wrighty

 

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Status: offline 		Are we still on 4 Frenchies or 4 world whites?

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/12/2008 6:33:12 AM   
gbm

 

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Status: offline 		A little variety would be nice, and probably make it more accessible/affordable, but I am looking forward to it either way.

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/12/2008 9:06:24 AM   
jhannah27

 

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ORIGINAL: Wrighty

Are we still on 4 Frenchies or 4 world whites?


This is still the debate.  I think we should probably see what is the most widely available. 


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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/12/2008 9:18:31 AM   
RoundersRob

 

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Status: online 		Yeah - it was initially just an idea.  It's hard to get stuff for people everywhere.   I also like the comparative tasting idea where perhaps we could do a new world chardonnay vs a white burg or something like that.

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/12/2008 9:20:25 AM   
jhannah27

 

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Yeah - it was initially just an idea.  It's hard to get stuff for people everywhere.   I also like the comparative tasting idea where perhaps we could do a new world chardonnay vs a white burg or something like that.


If we do that, maybe we can find an unoaked?  This way it's not so apparent what the differences are between the two.


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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/12/2008 9:41:40 AM   
deb293

 

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Status: offline 		Pricey...perhaps.  But white CdP and Condrieu never seem to be inexpensive...I keep my eyes open, but the bargains are few and far between.

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/12/2008 12:46:13 PM   
NiklasW

 

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Status: offline 		I think things will get a bit out of hand if we all go suggesting our own favourites. The way we've done it so far seems to be good. The organiser (Rob in this case) chooses a bunch the she/he can easily get, and the rest of us make do with that. Those of us who want to actively participate, will each get a chance to be the organiser, I'm sure. In my case, I tried to list a bunch of wines that were available to me that I thought would also be available anywhere in the world. It didn't quite turn out so...but it never will! As Rob has said previously, half the fun is hunting down the wines!

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/12/2008 12:54:57 PM   
RoundersRob

 

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Status: online 		That's probably a good idea Niklas.  I'll work on a list soon and I think we'll do a couple of whites and a couple of reds with the comparitive tasting format.  If you can only get 1 of the reds or whites then just enjoy that one. 

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RE: picking the wines for the next CTVT - 11/12/2008 12:58:38 PM   
NiklasW

 

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