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snooth.com - 11/26/2007 8:56:48 AM

bacchus

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this is an invitation to eric and the general membership to take a look at www.snooth.com

this is a new website which is basically a web portal with links to retailers. it also allows members to post ratings that get averaged and displayed.

an interesting feature is that these ratings get graphed over time so that you can see how a wine is developing. would love to see something like that here at cellartracker home base.

also of note- full text tasting notes are revealed by tanzer and parker. wine spectator review dates and numerical scores are also revealed. eric, i know how you feel about this. but, perhaps it is worth seeing whether renewed negotiations are in order.

happy holidays to all.

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RE: snooth.com - 11/26/2007 9:26:01 AM

Eric

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On the Parker notes etc, it is not a function of how I feel but clear legal advice. Resellers are granted to use notes in this fashion. I am not a reseller. Snooth is pretty clearly in violation of the Parker and Spectator terms of use and could easily be sued for copyright violations. I am not willing to enter those crosshairs on sound legal advice.

Snooth at one point was crawling CellarTracker (far more extensively than I had intended), grabbing most of my content, never once linking back corrrectly. They have turned that off but now have lots of snippets of data from this site intermingled in their "tags" although they claim not. Frankly, in 18 years of working in technology, this was the single sleaziest, nastiest interaction I have ever had. I am still debating whether to pursue legal action. (Hi Philip, I hope you are reading this.)

So in short, I would like to forget about Snooth forever and wish them little success. That is in strong contrast to my desire to partner with pretty much any other reputable player in the industry.

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RE: snooth.com - 11/28/2007 11:02:39 PM

JanS

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The only thing to learn from it is that someone will try to bring "social networking" to wine, either through a site, or through a Facebook application, or something else. Following wine reviews from friends, comparing them, finding wine buddies that happen to live next door, etc. etc. Not sure that this is what I want to do, but there is probably a large crowd of people that do want this....

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