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some Oregon impressions - 8/3/2008 9:13:17 AM   
Serge Birbrair

 

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Status: offline 		Medici - not my cup of tea
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=93351

http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=192818


Ferraro, Washington State -
Very consistent http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=430976
if consistency was a virtue, the winemaker would be charging more than Lafite

Sineann:
some decent whites, overalcoholic reds
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=378691 so-so
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=488698 bought couple bottles

Aramenta
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=543576
my wife liked it, I can live without their PN and Chards and this one she bought.


Airlie - unexpected and very pleasant surprise:
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=554345 bought Pinot Gris
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=532593 bought Dry Riesling
their PN's weren't bad but not remarkable.


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RE: some Oregon impressions - 8/3/2008 10:17:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Serge. I will be going to the Willamette Valley in a couple of weeks and appreciate the notes. Also regarding Airlie, I think they have a good Riesling site, but unfortunately few people care . . . well because it's not PN.

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RE: some Oregon impressions - 8/3/2008 10:42:15 AM   
Serge Birbrair

 

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Status: offline 		esb, the best things I've done in life were things where I had to swim against the herd
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Oregon made it bones first in whites and still I believe the Oregon whites are underappreciated and PN's a bit overhyped and price wise are not competitive with 2005 village Burgundies, despite the US $ fall.

I haven't bought a single bottle of red* to take back home yet.

*- my wife did but promissed to finish it here :)

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RE: some Oregon impressions - 8/3/2008 1:44:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds like you had a great trip, Serge.
Oregon whites sound interesting, I´ll keep a lookout for some to try. I´m imagining the cooler climate and greater contrast of seasons could make for some good rieslings and would be interesting to see how Sauv Blanc does up there. Was a German wine influence at all popular up there with many wineries offering Rieslings or anybody labeling their PN as Spätburgunder?
How expesive was the Airlie Pinot Gris? We just bought a bottle of this central coast PG during a recent wine tasting event, good but I thought a little pricey at $22:
2007 Hahn Estates Pinot Gris SLH (USA, California, Central Coast, Santa Lucia Highlands)
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=550592

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RE: some Oregon impressions - 8/3/2008 6:41:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Airlie was $12 and Sineann was $18, with Airlie as a much better value.

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RE: some Oregon impressions - 8/3/2008 7:29:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Serge, I thought you made a pact not to hype the OR whites?

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RE: some Oregon impressions - 8/3/2008 8:15:19 PM   
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RE: some Oregon impressions - 8/3/2008 9:31:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		The road less travelled ... also more interesting.

The whites are under-appreciated, but I think that's a normal response from the media and consumers considering the PN has generated so much momentum the last decade or so. I'm not sure anyone knows Oregon makes white.

Also, the wineries and winemakers are part of the problem. In the beginning the story was always the same - the PN is great but the chardonnay is bad because we have the wrong clone. I don't know - some kind of strange marketing message. I got sick of the whole story. Maybe the wines could have been better but the good ones were not bad and certainly worth the asking price. Now I guess the clone problem is resolved, but the damage is done.

I really like the PGs. I am continually amazed at the fruit quality and brightness in the wines. They can be a little tutti frutti but I have come to expect and appreciate that characteristic. I turn to Pinot Blanc when I'm not into that blast of fruit. As a generalization, I get more mineral and stone from the PB and a little fatter fruit but the same brightness that makes these wines so attractive. I'm drinking the '06 Willakenzie and have just purchased the '07.

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RE: some Oregon impressions - 8/3/2008 9:37:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Forgot . . I had a '76 Erath Riesling in '97 or '98 that was fantastic. Aged, but still some youthful fruit and freshness. Very memorable experience that really surprised me.

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RE: some Oregon impressions - 8/4/2008 7:11:46 PM   
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      Did you go to St Innocent, taste the pinot?? I have heard a lot about them, let me know your thoughts if you went.

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RE: some Oregon impressions - 8/4/2008 8:45:13 PM   
Serge Birbrair

 

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Status: offline 		J, they were a bit out of the way and close at 4 PM. My GPS said we'll arrive ar 4:11, so we didn't go. Maybe we'll stop there on the way to Portland on Friday...

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RE: some Oregon impressions - 9/14/2008 7:46:26 AM   
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I can't believe you're complaining about Medici. I tasted the 2001 east block at a restaurant and then stopped by the tasting room the next day and tried others. I agree with you about the 2003 but the 2002s were quite nice. Not concentrated, certainly, and I'm not going to throw away my single vineyard pinots from California, but I liked the funk and I really got an idea I was tasting Oregon.


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RE: some Oregon impressions - 9/14/2008 8:43:00 AM   
Serge Birbrair

 

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Status: offline 		Steve, I don't recall me complaining about ANYTHING. I am not complainer, I am just an observer.

Like I said, Medici is not my cup of tea, along with OZ Shiraz, lots of Spanish blockbusters and California Zin...which doesn't mean they are the bad wines.

You wanna hear my complaint?

I'm sure I can find a few things to complain about like
upcoming Economic Depression for example
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