8/20/21, 12:23 PM - SRH, thanks so much!
2/11/21, 6:21 AM - Not much of a change, even after that long being open. Maybe a little less energy and verve by day five, but very little dropoff. Granted, I popped it in the fridge each night, but even then, I think this wine is so stuffed with everything that it has tremendous staying power.
8/13/20, 4:34 AM - Yikes!
7/16/19, 8:16 AM - Thanks man! These wines just blow my mind every time. Even when the VA is just too much sometimes, they're never boring and always get the gears turning in my mind. So much fun.
4/23/19, 4:11 PM - Couldn’t agree more! I bought a lone bottle of this wine 8 years ago, and I’m so glad I waited. Wish I had more...
5/2/19, 7:45 AM - Guitar guy, you're exactly right. I glanced too quickly at the label and missed that important detail. Good catch, and I will amend the note accordingly. Cheers!
7/15/18, 3:17 PM - Thanks, and yes, I was pleasantly surprised at how accessible this was. The 2014 was so much more structured at this same phase. But this definitely has the stuffing to go for years and years to come...
5/27/18, 5:57 PM - Of the three 1er Tries in 1989, I think Le Mont is the only misstep. I had a similarly underwhelming experience with this wine. The Clos du Bourg and Haut Lieu 1er Tries have both been consistently marvelous...
1/28/18, 5:07 PM - 750, indeed.
1/3/18, 8:46 AM - No real red fruits showing with this bottle. It remains a deep, dark purple color and the dark-fruited flavors predominate. It's always been a bit of a freak Bojo in my book (and in a very good way), but it's dark, molten minerality is (and will always be), the central quality of its character. And I agree on what superb value it is!
11/4/17, 6:01 PM - Seth, it’s really singing now. Very expressive nose and tannins well resolved. It’s in no danger of fading, but it’s really in the zone now, so I’d crack one open soon if you have the chance.
9/27/17, 6:32 PM - I was just thinking of buying some bottles, as this house staple had somehow eluded me for the 2015 vintage, but your note has (sadly) given me pause. Thanks for the candid, if disappointing, take.
5/18/17, 3:24 PM - Mos def. It's really in a great spot to crack one open. Had it with smoked brisket, and it was A++ combo
2/9/17, 6:16 PM - Thanks very much for the first look. I'm an every-year buyer for Foillard but had some trepidation given the vintage and variability from other Bojo producers. Good to hear, if unsurprising, that Foillard did well in spite of the hot vintage.
2/4/17, 4:02 AM - I love all those producers as well! Although, Metras for me tends to be a mixed bag of either gorgeous, near-transcendental bottles or rotten stinkers. Dupeuble is arguably my favorite QPR on the planet.
9/12/16, 7:01 AM - For those who've bought this wine, I sure hope it turns around, but I have strong doubts. I've had over 200 bottles of Beaujolais in the past several years (at all levels of cellar age), and I can't recall one as dreadful as this. And given that I drank this over two nights and saw no improvement from being open, I don't imagine cellar time will help either. But who knows? If you've got a couple, crack one open and see if you like it.
12/20/16, 6:16 AM - People's reactions to 2015 Beaujolais seems quite variable, with some enjoying the ripeness while others passing on it because of its Rhone-like qualities. For my part, I think some producers really shone (Thivin, Lapierre, Sunier), while others had trouble handling the heat. For me, the defining characteristic of Beaujolais is freshness, which in most vintages comes naturally to these wines, but which in warm/hot vintages like 2015, can be a real challenge to achieve with many producers. I feel in 2015, many whom I typically enjoy (e.g., Pavil. de Chavan., Pierre Chermette, Chanrion) failed to walk that line successfully between ripe fruit and Bojo energy/freshness and ended up with some medicinal and/or ponderous examples that even showed a fair amount of alcohol. I think there are some real gems here (Lapierre in particular), but you need to be choosy with this vintage.
9/13/16, 11:08 AM - L'Enfant, you've got it the other way around; our mutual friend is totally lifting my own characterization of the wine! Ha! Glad you seemed to like this almost as much I did. More importantly, we should do some drinking together. From your profile, it sounds like you're a fellow Washingtonian with a liking for the funky Loire and Bojos that I love. Cheers!
7/18/16, 6:21 AM - Nope. Just popped and let it breath in the glass.
6/8/16, 3:35 AM - LOL at Clos St Hune being your summer quaffer! Mine's the Pepiere Muscadet at $12/bottle. If you're just looking for some lemony mineral refreshment, you could save a lot of ducats with the Pepiere...
3/15/16, 7:20 AM - Thanks for the comment, and I agree wholeheartedly. May this wine (and its prices) remain in the shadow of the Hermitage!
2/24/16, 5:34 PM - Love Louis Michel's wines, but FYI, they use only stainless (no wood) at this domaine.
6/17/15, 5:54 AM - Interesting. I felt with the 2011 vintage, all of Foillard's wines were accessible right out of the gate (and have remained so), but in every other instance, the Py needed a bit more time than the Corcelette. Both are consistently excellent, so this is all pretty academic. Cheers!
5/17/15, 7:35 PM - No!!! I've been holding my last bottle for a while, but reports of this wine's demise (or at least, loss of vigor) like yours are making me think it's time to pop the cork.
3/16/15, 6:32 AM - Audouzed in the cellar.
1/24/15, 8:02 AM - Amen. I actually slightly prefer Les Granges to the Domaine year to year, and it's a couple bucks cheaper.
1/17/15, 6:04 PM - Thanks for the note and for the great name for your evening. That might have been one of the most painful WB threads of all time...
12/7/14, 7:40 PM - Ha, yes, you can't help but do a double take at the price. It's certainly not the elegant or cerebral wine that the Côte du Py is, but its sheer gulpabilty makes up for what it lacks in "burgundianness." And when you consider how much these Foillard wines run laps around village Burgs of comparable price, you don't feel so bad about shelling out 40-50 bones for them.
11/14/14, 4:14 AM - Charlie, sorry to hear this. Who was the importer for the flawed bottles?
11/14/14, 8:47 AM - That's a bummer, especially given what a magical wine this can be when "on." Seems like a big misstep from an otherwise reliable and excellent producer.
9/6/14, 4:56 PM - I was really surprised, as it was the first 2012 from the Mosel that I've had which seemed shutdown. Have either of you tried other Schaefer wines from this vintage? If so, how've they performed?
7/6/14, 5:30 AM - Harley, I agree wholeheartedly. As complex and delicious as it is now, this wine is just a pup. Only quibble I have with your assessment is that I thought it was a terrific value, not a terrible one. For $40, you get a really interesting wine with tremendous ageworthiness (and already aged 15 years for you!).
4/11/14, 5:55 PM - "Surely doesn't suck." Ha! Nice one.
10/9/13, 5:36 AM - Chatters, I think the wine has plenty of time to go and will no doubt improve over the next few years. Montelena has a great track record with regard to making ageworthy wines, and the 2009 Chardonnay is no exception.
4/7/14, 5:48 PM - SSoM, thanks for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed it, too.
3/25/14, 3:01 AM - I'm probably the wrong guy to ask, given I've never let my cru Bojos age longer than five years. This wine certainly wasn't in any danger of falling off, so it can sleep comfortably for a while longer; I just don't see much upside in doing so. For whatever reason or another, I've always enjoyed my initial bottles of Lapierre over ones I've kept for a few years.
3/25/14, 7:43 PM - I've heard the same about Coudert, and there are certainly other producers whose wines seem to need more time to come around (Jadot Chateau des Jacques, Metras, Diochon), but I wouldn't count Lapierre among them. E.g., my first bottle of the 2009 was a drop-dead gorgeous wine, with incredible aromatics and loads of juicy exuberance. However, each successive bottle, while very fine, seemed to have less and less of that energy and joie de vivre that (to me) is such a defining characteristic of good cru Beaujolais. In other words, I'd crack open that 2012. I'm confident you'll love it, and if you love it enough to buy more, there's plenty available at retail.
1/21/14, 8:08 PM - Thanks for sacrificing one for the team. Will let my lone bottle sleep for many years.
10/12/13, 10:30 PM - No kidding. The sour, citrus-like element has only gotten more pronounced over three bottles. Here's hoping their 2001 gran reserves turn out better than this.
9/27/13, 2:38 PM - I'm sad to read your note (as I love Gonon) but a bit confused. If, as your description clearly indicates, it a) smells and tastes like chemicals, weird acids, and citrus fruits (?!), b) has no characteristics of the winemaker, terroir, or even the grape, and c) bears no resemblance to other 25 tasting notes posted here, then you're probably looking at a badly flawed bottle, rather than a 76-point wine. Just my two cents. More importantly, it's a bummer you had this experience. I think the wine is brilliant.
7/11/13, 3:41 AM - Thanks for taking one for the team. It's good to be reminded to lay off these (when so many of his 2010 wines are drinking wonderfully). If you can source some 2009 Croix Boissee, it's a brilliant young example that's very expressive even now. Will give you something to look forward to as you (and all of us) wait several years on the '10s.
7/11/13, 8:12 PM - I agree 100% on the 2010 lineup. The '10 Granges has essentially been our house red for the past year, and the Guillot showed great potential. The only slight exception I've had is with Le Domaine. I found it to be a bit angular and tart, but I know I'm in the distinct minority of opinion there. Cheers!
5/6/13, 5:28 AM - Brix, well said, and I actually don't think our tastes are that far off. When I went to enter my note, I was surprised to read yours, as you seemed to tick off all the qualities of the wine that I had picked up, except that for me, they were present but with the volume turned way down, such that it seemed a bit flat and listless (the fizz notwithstanding). Also, what you perceived as bitterness (something I think is a necessary ingredient in a good rose) struck my palate as a bit sour, which lead me also to think it might have been flawed somehow (but under screwcap?). Perhaps it was a bit of an expectations issue, as I was told by a reliable merchant that this was an excellent and much-sought-after rose, and the wine didn't meet those expectations. Anyhow, if I can get another bottle, I'll certainly give it another go. Thanks for your great original note, and for engaging on this.
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