1/26/17, 8:44 AM - I'm thinking of opening one soon. Do you recommend time in a decanter?
1/23/17, 8:37 AM - Yes, 96. This is a great wine. I looked at your note and you say how it opened up with time, usually an indication of good future aging potential. FYI, the color has been relatively dark since release and is a sign of the high ripeness level at harvest and has nothing to do with age. Windsbuhl has a great capacity for aging, especially in a great vintage like 2005. I've had Windsbuhl Riesling as old as 37 years at the time of drinking and it was still in very good shape. Think of this just like a high quality German Riesling which many times doesn't hit it's peak drinking window for 20-40 years. My bottles came from a very reputable dealer in France who shipped directly to me in the USA.
1/23/17, 1:09 PM - Provenance is always such an issue in the wine game. Really unfortunate.My suggestion on the Brand & Rangen is a hold ( if you like the tastes of Riesling with some age ). When I tasted through the '05s with Olivier prior to release it was obvious that these wines had many layers of complexity that would only show with time - 15-25 years - and while this was true across the board it was most true for the Rieslings. Those wines are going to age at a snail's pace. Hopefully you have some older ones to drink while these come into their golden years. Golden as in perfect drinking window, not retirement age!
1/23/17, 5:36 PM - None to spare but plenty to share. Come to Raleigh, NC and I'll be happy to open some older bottles.
1/9/17, 10:24 PM - Your +++ is appropriate. I have found the '05 Rhones, Alsatians, Vouvrays and Mosels to all have the common denominator of showing very well but giving a sense there are hidden layers below that will only show with proper aging. Jeff
6/19/16, 10:38 AM - Hi DaleYa, 11 years. Time keeps seeming to move quicker as we age. It was certainly a night none of us will forget. Send my best to Alisha. On the '05 Windsbuhl Riesling I think there is still great upside but I also still have a couple of dozen bottles left so it's easy to say hold. I'll try to crack one open and post a note in the next 2 weeks to give you further thoughts since I haven't opened one in a couple of years. It's a tough job but someone has to do it! The '05s had so much fruit and concentration on release that is going to continue bubbling to the surface for a long time. Jeff
12/26/16, 6:55 PM - Dale -Happy Holidays and hope all is well. Had the '05 Windsbuhl Riesling last night so check my note. Great now & I believe great(er?) later so I don't think I solved anything for you. Jeff
12/27/16, 4:50 PM - Haven't touched my '02 Brand since trying it shortly after release when it seemed like something that would be special in time. Saw your note and you need more enthusiasm! I've really found that these are for the most part best with major age. '89s & '90s really at peak now for many ZH. I know I'm spoiled with all the older ZH I have so I can afford to hold things for a long time. Come east for a weekend and we'll have an older ZH event. Email me if you're interested to take this off public view and I'll arrange something. Best to Alisha.Jeff
6/17/16, 9:55 AM - It was a ZH night but when Salil offered to put this in his suitcase I was not going to say no. We have way too little Donnhoff ourselves due to not liking a bottle in the late '90s and not buying since but thanks to good friends like Salil we get to have some great bottles. More on the details in the note I hope to post in the next few days but I agree with Salil that it will hold easily but if you're lucky enough to own enough to open one now you're in for a treat.
6/17/16, 9:50 AM - How can an SGN show terroir? This one does while also clearly announcing itself as an SGN. Very difficult to locate I was lucky enough to find a batch about 15 years ago. Not cheap by any means but one to bring out with special friends as it is unlikely anyone I know will have a bottle other than from my cellar.
6/17/16, 9:44 AM - Give Goldert some time from a strong vintage and you have something really special. This '94 & the '89 are my favorites at the moment. The best Goldert I ever had was in 2004 when Olivier opened one of a couple of bottles left in the family cellar of the '71 Muscat over dinner with Dena & I. Floral complexity beyond belief. Somewhere deep in my memory I can still smell/taste that wine!
6/17/16, 9:37 AM - I love this wine for so many reasons. It is a great wine. It is also the first ZH Dena & I had as we were getting serious about wine right when it was released in '97. I had received a big promotion at work and Dena got a recommendation for a great wine and bought this which was at the time the most we had spent on a bottle by far. With the first sip the love affair with ZH started and continues 20 years later. Luckily I've been able to backfill heavily in this masterpiece. Olivier, Dena and I all agree that this is the finest Brand VT made to date.
6/17/16, 9:28 AM - Certainly a rarity. Even with my deep knowledge of ZH I had never heard hold this until a few years. With Olivier's help I was able to buy a case with perfect provenance so I feel very fortunate.
6/17/16, 9:22 AM - Those who know Salil would have found his physical and emotional reactions to this wine a riot. Truly a singular wine that is fascinating. I call it Liqueur de Rangen, a similar comment to Salil's soil to glass transfer. If this wine doesn't convince one that terror exists in the world's finest vineyards nothing will.
6/17/16, 9:18 AM - A better wine that this night's showing. Places incorrectly in the lineup which hurt it. By itself before the great Indian dinner Salil made but after the 2 dry Rieslings that had meats & cheeses with them. On its own it would have shown much better though I agree with Salil that the acidity was relatively low - an oddity for this wine.
6/17/16, 9:13 AM - I love using this wine to fool people. As Salil says , an expectation of a sweet wine on the nose and then completely dry but far from austere. Dena's favorite dry Riesling period and a great learning experience for Salil so I had to open this. Ok - I didn't suffer too much from the experience either!
5/16/16, 7:14 AM - I think you sadly had an off bottle. I've had this a few times ( all from a case where I know the provenance is excellent ) and have always found it to be excellent with florals replacing the soy/vinegar you mention. Hope you have another one that's in great shape to taste this wine's magnificence. Jeff
4/22/16, 9:12 PM - When will my magnums be mature? That may have a crazy purchase but I remember trying to find every 750i could locally on release at $30! Those days are long gone. Come to Raleigh!!!
3/29/16, 4:02 PM - Sounds like an off bottle in some way. Unfortunate as it is just a small step behind the '94 Windsbuhl & Rangen's Rieslings when on top of its game.
3/23/16, 9:22 AM - The single malt flavor ( minus the spirit taste ) that you described as smoke, peat, etc. is the signature of Rangen's terroir. I'll open a Rangen's Gewürztraminer for you where that signature even overrides the strong signature that Gewürztraminer usually shows. Terroir is real!!!Jeff
2/1/16, 6:24 PM - Personally I think these need more bottle age or at least a long decant that many don't seem to be doing. I'm currently drinking my '04s and '05s, which are great and sometimes still need decanting time, and waiting on more recent vintages. Jeff
1/31/16, 1:01 PM - Hi DaleHope all is well. Just came across this note and can't agree more on the lack of perceived age on these. I've had the 1924 of this wine and it is still singing loudly with great secondary characteristics along with fresh fruit. A miracle of nature and winemaking. Am soon attending a Huet dinner where everything will be '59 or older - I can't wait!!!All the bestJeff
1/28/16, 11:10 AM - This wine is to me the next version of the great '89. Lots of similarities in richness and depth of fruit. I'm very happy I went long on this wine. At least 2 decades of great drinking ahead for this one. Jeff
1/24/16, 10:13 AM - I remember buying every '01 Christoffel I could find locally and this is exactly why!
1/5/16, 7:57 PM - I'm with you on this one. I think it is on a trajectory that will be similar to the '89. Jeff
12/31/15, 7:40 AM - What a shame. Stunning wine when we'll stored and not corked. Jeff
12/31/15, 7:39 AM - You've ruined yourself having a Baumard as your first QdC! Nowhere to go but down!! The '97 is a wonderful wine today with a solid 10-20 years of positive development ahead. Jeff
12/26/15, 5:13 PM - Are you sure this is not the VT version of the wine and is the "regular" Pinot Gris from Clos Windsbuhl? I ask because this wine only has 14 g/l of residual sugar and the weather in Hunawihr where this vineyard is located was cool during September and October producing high acidity. No botrytis affected grapes went into this wine, they all went to the VT so this should taste a little off dry but not "monolithically sweet". The VT on the other hand still needs time to unwind and is a great wine but still showing youthful sweetness.Jeff
12/26/15, 9:39 PM - Mislabeling would be highly unlikely as I'm pretty aware of Olivier's hand bottling and labeling methods that are meticulously accurate but never say never...
12/23/15, 6:49 AM - Hi DavidHad the '01 WS Kabinett the other day. Opening nicely. It had the beginnings of the burnished fruit inner mouth glow of the great '90s. Any sense of that in this wine? Do you think the Spatlese would benefit from decanting/aeration time? I've been staying away from the '01s being patient for the magic of age but maybe it's time to start drinking a few. Happy HolidaysJeff
12/23/15, 2:03 PM - Thanks. Like you I think I'll hold off on anything above Kabinett. I think the Auslese magnums I have that came from a mixed Prum auction lot may not see even adolescence until age 50!!!
12/23/15, 3:29 PM - I stopped buying with the 2005 vintage for those reasons and already having an insane amount of wine.
12/14/15, 2:52 PM - Seems you didn't care for the balance of this wine, which I think is the most important aspect of a wine. If you have more and want to sell email me at jeffgmorris123@yahoo.com. I'm taking a chance on the '03 Prums and wouldn't mind more of severs of his '03s.
12/11/15, 9:59 AM - While great now, this is still an infant. It will be at its in 20 more years so if you have more try to hide at least one for the long term and you'll see that I was correct. Jeff
12/8/15, 8:22 AM - PaulAs usual great notes all around. I wish we didn't live on opposite sides of the world so we could get together! Just had the '89 Windsbuhl Gewurz recently at a Laotian restaurant ( a first for the Southeast USA ) and it was spectacular as always. Have been lucky to have drunk a Windsbuhl Riesling back to '64 ( obviously not ZH as they bought the vineyard in the late '80s ) and it proved the long term quality of the vineyard. If I had any negative on your wonderful notes it is that the vast majority of Olivier's wines can age much longer than you note. I'm drinking lots of '89s now ( Olivier's first official vintage at the helm ) and they are just hitting their peak plateau. Happy Holidays & Peace to you in this time of crazy world events. Jeff
12/8/15, 8:02 AM - The '82 is amazing when from a well stored bottle.
11/23/15, 3:33 PM - Too bad. This wine is in an absolutely beautiful place right now.
11/22/15, 9:36 AM - Thanks David. Sounds like time for me to start drinking my 3 bottles. Happy Thanksgiving Jeff
11/19/15, 6:41 PM - I'm glad you found some. It is a monumental wine ( the 1994 ) that is still in it's infancy and will drink well for another 50-100 years. I tasted the '09 with Olivier at the winery about a year ago and while tasting painfully young it is fantastic. The '08 is unbelievable but my understanding is that it won't be exported as there was a very small amount made ( I myself only have 1 375ml bottle )
10/1/15, 11:55 AM - I'll just comment on one note from the event to say:1. Excellent notes as always2. I'm jealous! Events like this are one of the few things that make me wish I still lived in NYStay well my friend.
9/27/15, 6:19 AM - David - I was lucky a couple of years ago to get an auction lot of 18 mixed half bottles of HGS' great Eiswein, BA & TBAS from '86-'96. People seem to dislike mixed lots at auction so lucky me! It included 4 bottles of this wine of which this was my first.
8/31/15, 6:20 AM - Buller'so makes a different wine called "Fine" that is a level down from the Rare but still wonderful. Search for Buller Fine and you'll see notes.
8/22/15, 6:44 AM - Just had this Thursday but note isn't posted yet. Great as always. Developing at a glacial pace.
8/22/15, 8:38 AM - Email me at jeffgmorris123@yahoo.com. Would love to get together. I've had the Trie Speciale a few times and it's out of this world but still almost tastes like a barrel sample.
8/22/15, 6:42 AM - I had the '89 Marie Beurrier which is perfect with about 3 hours decanting. I think the '89 Celestins needs another decade at least before it becomes approachable but will then be magic.
8/9/15, 8:55 AM - I feel your pain. I can't get myself to open either of the last 2 bottles I have from a disgorgement around 2003-2004. It keeps getting better with more age.
8/7/15, 6:37 AM - As someone who drinks much more than his fair share I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment. 2000 was a vintage of extremely high ripeness for Olivier, particularly in the Rangen vineyard. The dark color has been there since day 1 due to this fact. There are many years when this wine ferments dry but in 2000 it stopped fermentation with some residual sugar. Note that all ZH bottles - non VTs & SGNs - have a numerical 1-5 code indicating apparent sweetness. I forgot what this was but probably a 3 or 4 at least. The apparent sweetness will subdue in time and this can currently handle very rich foods or dessert as it is still very young in its evolution in my opinion. To me it's one of the best Rangen Rieslings ever with a great mix of that richness and sweetness with the signature peatiness of Rangen. I actually think it will continue to develop some secondary characteristics and be very enjoyable for another 2-3 decades. I totally agree with you that if it is served warm it will not taste right. It needs cellar temp which I define as 52-55 Fahrenheit. See my note from April of this year for my current note on this wine. If you went in expecting a dry wine and the bottle temp was off I can certainly see how you would not get the immense pleasure that this wine has to offer.
8/7/15, 8:51 AM - Unfortunately I haven't tried the '06 myself but I'm basing my comparison on my discussion of the '06 vintage with Olivier Humbrecht.I have tried no less than 13 vintages of this wine as a reference point.
8/4/15, 7:34 AM - I find these age very well and am currently drinking my '04s & '05s which still have tons of life left in them. I find they strike a beautiful balance of big California fruit and French elegance. Certainly not looking for a fight as we're all welcome to our own opinions but I don't understand the people complaining about price increases when I believe the inaugural vintage of 2004 was $65/bottle, maybe plus shipping, and 10 vintages on we're at $75 including shipping. I also like supporting nice people and Maggie is one of the nicest and most humble winemakers I've come across. To each their own and I guess it means more available for me but the many notes negative on price baffle me.
8/4/15, 9:07 AM - As I said no offense meant to anyone and if we all liked and wanted to buy the same wines prices would be crazy and the wine world would be boring. I would add 1 comment that I think most people are drinking wines very young ( no issue if you like them that way ) but looking for secondary characteristics or complexity. You can't have it both ways whether it's a Syrah from Maggie or a Riesling from JJ Prum.
7/22/15, 8:04 AM - Do you think it was just this bottle or that it is over the hill? Haven't had the '90 for a few years but it seemed to have plenty of life left in it.
7/22/15, 4:23 PM - Good to hear as I still have 8 of these in the cellar.
7/16/15, 8:19 AM - Too bad. Have you seen any premox on this one?
7/17/15, 12:20 PM - Great as I mostly went with Demi Secs in '05 and Moelleaux 1ere Trie in 2002 on my Huets
7/17/15, 1:36 PM - I feel the '05 whites across the Loire, Alsace and Germany have some hidden power yet to come to the fore but time will tell. I did get some of the sweet '05s including a good amount of Constance and from Foreau as well. Have you seen any premox on the '02 sweet wines? I went very heavy on the 1ere Tries with a great deal years ago and the few I've opened have been great - but young of course. Sorry you missed the ZH dinner. It was the party of the year and having Olivier spend the weekend at the house to be able to talk to at ease was a dream come true.
7/17/15, 2:27 PM - I was having such a great time that I decided not to write notes as I was going through the evening and I don't think anyone else took notes. I do have all the wines listed if you look at my recent notes on CellarTracker as I wrote 1 line "reminder" notes of what we drank. I'll also email you the program from the evening.
7/16/15, 8:23 AM - Nothing better than an '89 Constance...other than a bottle of it from someone else's cellar so you can age yours! I agree on the tightrope balance of this wine being it's key to being so wonderful.
7/8/15, 6:02 AM - Hi DavidMy strategy has been to enjoy bottles friends open of the '01 Christoffels while letting mine age out further as I think they will be even more phenomenal in another decade. When I think back to what I paid for these I realize I should have backed up the truck!!!
7/8/15, 6:56 AM - Excellent. I have 44!!!
7/5/15, 7:44 AM - I agree that many wines are over-hyped and so many of us feel the need to give an excellent review or others may think we don't know what we're talking about. Your own judgment and conclusions should be your only input for a tasting note. On Barolo & Barbaresco I am a fan but believe they do need extended aging to show their magic. Recent '71 & '78 Gaja Barbarescos have been stunning as have been some '61s from relatively unknown producers. If you are unable to obtain well stored older bottles the only choice is what you said - buy when you're 25 and drink when you're 50 - or 60! Problem is most people don't want to wait it out nor do they have the cash at age 25 to buy these relatively expensive wines.
6/22/15, 3:00 PM - This wine seems to divide people deeply. I have not yet opened any of my bottles yet as I feel the '98 Marie Beurrier is just entering its drinking window and always feel Bonneau drinks best with extended aging. I may open one of these soon and decant/follow over a few nights to see for myself what it is that has everyone including Bonneau lovers like myself so divided.
5/28/15, 8:22 AM - Do you happen to have the AP# from this bottle? I want to see if it is the same bottling I still have in my cellar.
5/28/15, 8:19 AM - Did you drink this and what did you think of it? I have a lone 375ml put aside for some day in the future.
4/3/15, 7:59 AM - I love Maggie's wines plus she is a super nice person so I feel good buying from her. On your comment of producing excellent wines in every vintage I would suspect it has to do with selection and not manipulation. I believe very strongly in the old adage "producer over vintage".
3/29/15, 4:52 PM - Riesling does not have any tannins.
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