4/23/24, 9:19 AM - HI. The price on this wine is as high as it's been so if the 2012 is cheaper, get it. Based on my own notes (although not a side by side) of 2012 vs 2013l I'd think the 2013 is gonna go longer, the 2012 is drinking great now. If you can afford it, and you might be the value of doing them side by side, find a friend or someone who likes Champagne as much as you and do them both. That kind of experience, while expensive, is gold because you can learn much by comparing, and also you can benefit those who will see your notes. Just a thought. But high level, Levant is an excellent cuvee and unless the price keeps going a lot higher, I will buy the 2014 when it arrives here in the US.
4/9/24, 5:52 PM - Good idea. I like the premise of doing Chard from Champagne to precede Chablis. Smart. Let it go still, then serve it blind and tell people it is from the GC hill.🤓
3/25/24, 1:44 PM - I bet you're right re: alcohol.
3/23/24, 9:42 AM - Truth. Btw, i got this from b21 for 90. Very good price given no tax and nearly no shipping.
3/23/24, 11:03 AM - Down by Dana Point. The 18 is out, have it already. 19 might be around soon. Sometimes the Champagne world is funny seeing that people like Envoyer and Thatcher are pre-arriving 16.
3/14/24, 9:15 PM - It's etched on the bottle, near the bottom rim.
3/12/24, 7:08 PM - Violaine is vintage.🤓
3/2/24, 8:40 PM - Now that is a helluva tasting note.👏👏
2/28/24, 7:50 AM - I do think the 738 doesn't merit further aging. For the vintage, at least in my own mind, it's something as you say to enjoy, and do it now.
2/20/24, 12:31 PM - Great note there. I'm with you, as Falstaff is my favorite wine from Jamie too, and the wine I would put as a fine rep for what makes US Pinot great. I had a couple passes at the 22 over the weekend, and it seemed like it was starting off in a good place, too.
2/2/24, 10:43 AM - Hi. When did you drink this? Your consume date...? Just asking as that data helps me.
2/2/24, 1:03 PM - But that wine sits on the lees for almost 8 years, so how could you taste a 2013 in 2013?
2/2/24, 2:07 PM - I figured as much but I'd want someone to tell me if there was something like that. On a different note, we did have the 12 open earlier this week and I thought it was one of two wines of the night of the eight bottles on the table (the other being the 2013 Laherte Freres Empreintes). The 12 VV is perhaps not as wound up as what you found it to be last year, at least I thought it was elegant and very well balanced and drinking beautifully.
1/30/24, 5:52 PM - Given how well these showed, especially the 13, it's probably time to source the current release and see how that is showing. I think the last vintage I had of Empreintes was 2016. You had any recently?
1/30/24, 6:11 PM - Looks like there is just a drip of the 2017 in the US. I shot a note to Aurelien to see if there is an update on what the new release is and if there is more destined for the US. Such a great cuvee.
1/18/24, 10:15 AM - I had another glass last night, and still another left for later. There is plenty of authentic energy in the wine so it will show with some spine, yet I find it accessible even at this stage. I am more of freshness and structure palate so I like the wine where it is now but it will certainly age, soften and refine if that is what someone's palate may prefer. But, if you got one, open it. Life is best lived in the moment, with joy today, and who the heck knows what we all face tomorrow. We postpone joy far too often in this space is my own personal opinion.
1/10/24, 11:31 AM - Good question. Have tried 2020 now several times, yet the 2021 only once, which at that time was a tank sample Jamie had put to bottle for us. I'd say based on that limited data that 2021 would be superior. Until we can see some notes on the 2021, it's hard to confirm.
1/2/24, 9:50 AM - Hi. Not sure who you are but I appreciate the comment back. We found bottles of this (actually more of the Bedel range too) at Saratoga in NY so we'll give these newer disgorgement a try and see if it was as good as the 2016 disgorgement shows. For 2023, this bottle of Bedel was one of the rare moments of 2023, when something in my glass really hit me just right. Same as a recent bottle of NV Miniere Symbiose. Happy new year to you.
1/2/24, 4:15 PM - Ph, ok. Hey there, good to trade with you here. There is a little P Lancelot here on the West Coast so let me see about inquiring some and giving it a try. Thank you for the recommendation.
1/2/24, 9:48 AM - Why thank you. Appreciate that. This bottling is consistently good for me.
1/1/24, 10:56 AM - He's pretty good about writing back. I had just emailed him some questions a few weeks ago....do you want to go check it out for us? He's had enough of me for a while!
12/31/23, 8:18 PM - Great science experiment. The LF wines remain a great value and the quality is spot on. We have some LF wines going tonight too. Happy new year.👊
12/31/23, 11:00 AM - Been 3 years since I had one of these. That note is scary and it's about time i tried another. The 14s are softening up but this doesn't sound good. Happy NYE Charlie, God bless you.
12/27/23, 8:41 PM - Happy holidays Rat. Good to see you drinking LF.👏
12/26/23, 4:40 PM - Yeah, this is what I was told by the guy that brought it. And the other members of the table kinda asked the same surprised question as you.
12/20/23, 8:19 AM - The 2014s have softened, at least Les Saint Remys shows that. Need to revisit le Parc soon but assume that to be the case for that one too? I do think the 2017s are easier to get at sooner and will be in line with where the 2014s are now. Some of this is also a bit of guessing, short of getting some 14s and 17s blind and seeing what's there. Happy holidays to you.
12/15/23, 2:34 PM - That Laherte Freres is a zero dose, no sulphur wine. It is clean, transparent and brisk. I would not let this wine (i buy, drink and like it) define the grower space. Even within Laherte Freres range, they make other things that might be more illustrative of the grower space. The grower space is huge so keep trying.
12/15/23, 4:47 PM - Hey so that's a good book and one I read a couple of times now. And I'm glad you're willing to stay with the thought of trying some more Growers, but the wine that you've selected as your next one is going to be very similar to the one you just tasted. The fruit sources come from the same village of Vertus, and stylistically you're going to get a wine again without any dosage in it. For Terre de Vertus, I do like the 2014 of that wine but I will tell you the 2015 is going to taste austere, maybe a lot given how you just reacted to the Laherte. If you're going to drink that producer then go find either the Latitude or the Longitude. Latitude will be a little bit rounder and have a bit more flesh to it. Or if you can afford it then by up a level and try either the Levant or the Chemins de Avize. Both of those will not be as austere as Terre de Vertus. If you can find some Vilmart, try some of that. Again another grower but he tends to use more dosage and they'll be more flesh but a lot of acid as well and they're wonderful wines. Just trying to give you some guidance here so that you don't take a turn and think 'why did I even bother' because there's some wonderful wines in the grower space but you need someone to help you with some navigation which I'm happy to do. I have quite a few notes about champagne if you decide to do some research on some wines you could at least get my perspective as I've been pretty heavy into it for about 7 or 8 years now and it's pretty much all I drink. But as you might know one person's opinion is just that, which is a perspective based upon their experience and so it's getting a mosaic of those experiences that is probably more effective but I'm pretty confident that things I've tasted and I write with an honest opinion so you can use my tasting notes as data on your journey
12/16/23, 7:16 PM - The 17 Vilmart GCdO is terrific. This is the magic of Laurent Champs as he makes even a harder year like 17 taste great. What a wonderful winemaker he is. I do hope you like it. I love that cuvee. The 18 is out now too, yet to try it. Happy holidays to you both.
12/4/23, 6:00 PM - Cool to see you get one of these open. Happy holidays to you and your family.
11/23/23, 6:36 AM - What made you visit there? Did you try anything else you liked? Would like to know as I search out more. And it looks like Laherte Freres is very close, just behind them. Did you visit Aurelien Laherte too? I love his wines. Happy Thanksgiving from the US.👊
11/23/23, 8:01 AM - Hey if you find other things that you think I might be interested in such as the one we've been talking about here, drop me a message here and I'll be happy to go search things down. Some things are easier to find here than others but we have plenty of channels.
11/21/23, 7:47 AM - Hi. I opened it up for the gang and within about 20 minutes we had drank most of it so there was a little left and that's what was kept overnight and what I used for the note that I wrote last night.
11/20/23, 4:35 PM - It seems there is variability in the wine, which is why I let mine rip. We had a good crowd here yesterday so it was the right time to have it out.Have a wonderful T-giving and holiday season. Miss seeing you....one of these years again, I hope.
10/12/23, 6:54 PM - Temp s/where in between. Came out chilled, last few glasses we all poured were lightly chilled at best. Ain't gonna make it until tomorrow. Brig shared it.
10/7/23, 8:32 AM - Try one of your 05s. See what you think. I have one 11 left, an interesting and cool year for the wine, very unique. Also have a 99, the first year it was made. My thinking is to pair them together at an upcoming event.
10/4/23, 6:27 PM - Todd brought it. Sec Wines has some in PDX for under 50 bucks i think.
9/13/23, 5:50 PM - Thank you for posting this impression. Coincidentally I just picked up three bottles of this today and put them in my own seller. I haven't had this yet but this 2016 was a wine that I enjoyed.
9/9/23, 12:36 PM - The 13 is an excellent wine. Life is short....open one!
8/24/23, 11:00 AM - I do. As I wrote on my note there are some structural pieces that are very nice here but I wouldn't let that dissuade you from enjoying the wine.
6/6/23, 8:07 AM - This is a terrific wine. Try one. see what you think. Certain wines really ring my bell, for sure this one. But, each person's bell is different so it's good to have several perspectives to really figure out a wine like this one. Hope you are doing well.
8/15/23, 8:59 AM - Hi. Appreciate your reply. That 16 Concordance is on fire when it's on. Before I log you a few wines to answer your question, please do share back. I'd like to know your answer to the same question that you asked me, as that helps me understand. By the way, regarding your comment about the Seattle area (in your profile), do you know Warren Taranow? He is around Bellingham and he drinks a fair amount of Champagne and other good things. Maybe you know him already. Good man. As for a few more Champagnes from me, I really like the Laherte Freres Blanc de Blancs Brut Nature. I need to get more of that as I am out, and when it's priced well, you can find it for under $50. The 'Brut Nature' tag may scare some people away but for me, it's never been scary. It has texture, acid and great presence, and is a smashing value. I also like Vilmart Emotion, which is the top shelf Rose he makes. We had the 2014 this past week and it stood up as another high class wine again. It is though expensive at usually around $130, especially relative to the Laherte Freres BdB BN. I also like the Marie Courtin Resonance and Efflorescence (the 2014 is gorgeous). Her wines have been a little sparse to find the past several months, although she told me that some should arrive soon into the US. The 2019 Resonance has been consistently good year after year, priced very similar to the Laherte Freres too.
8/15/23, 7:49 PM - Very good work. You are off to a great journey here. On the Indulgence, that is a very unique wine, it will make you think. Nothing like the Emotion, yet both are Rose--it's how fascinating Champagne can be.
8/13/23, 12:17 PM - Hi. We did the same experiment with 2014 GCdO and CdC, at the same dinner. 15 GCdO fleshier, with really density, whereas the 14 GCdO is more electric, the Chardonnay seeming brighter to me, with green apple presence. All 4 wines we did earlier this week, plus the 2014 Emotion, are all in my notes that I logged in here. I like both vintages, I just think the 2015 is more sensory pleasing and the 2014 more linear and racy.
8/14/23, 9:19 AM - Keep my comment in context. Laurent presents wines with terrific acidity, and showcases the low pH well, but he also isn't making Brut Nature styled wines. The 2014s have texture but they also have some spine.
7/11/23, 8:40 PM - Dig the note and appreciate another voice putting in a Yes vote for this wine. I do like it, too. Might be time to get a few more, too.
6/7/23, 8:50 PM - Maybe more time, or maybe open longer as you drink through it? My previous bottle of this was October 2022 (my note is posted), and I thought the wine was gorgeous on the 2nd day when I finished it. I'd buy more if the wine popped up for a good price. I'm not saying you misjudged the wine.....but just saying did you let it have enough air before you wrote the note? It's just a thought.
6/6/23, 8:06 AM - Yes, more of a moving target with plenty of diversity even within a region or style. It's an amazing kind of wine.
6/4/23, 2:26 PM - Appreciate this note. Have one bottle left, your comments are helpful as to how this wine is aging. Thank you.
5/26/23, 6:47 AM - Hi! How's Anne? Everyone ok? On these wines, the labeling is confusing. The colors are beautiful and I dig the artwork but the meaning of each is confusing in how it's done. I'm not surprised that you say lean, mineral for this wine above. It's Brut Nature, zero dosage. i just had one last week, the 2022 disgorgement, was delicious again. As to the Ultradition you nention, he does make a Brut of that one, it may be appley. If it was the Ultradition Extra Brut, I didn't find my last bottle appley.
5/27/23, 3:03 PM - Side by side is the learning multiplier. If you can do it, then you get the extra points for effort and you fill your brain with good comparison thinking! It's easier maybe for me, since we constantly have people together around here but it may be tougher if you're doing small groups. We're OK here, just taking it a day at a time and feeling grateful.
5/26/23, 10:32 AM - Thanks for the note. Pricing varies based on where you buy this. I paid $49.99 for mine last week, and it's worth going back and getting a few more. It used to be in the low $40s here (West Coast) but it's still technically in the $40s...to split a hair. What other price relative Champagnes are you comparing this to? I'm curious.
5/26/23, 10:50 AM - The Tarlant is probably closer in comparison, given the style and cepage(s) that are used. Vilmart GC, another good one, but much different in approach, although a lot of Chard in it, but you'd be pushing it to find that wine in the $50s. You can, and we have this year, but many places in my opinion over-price it. The others you list are cool too, but I just don't drink much Dehours or Lasalle. Falmet is an interesting one, much harder to find. I just have this enduring impression (from a representative # of bottles) that LF is really nailing it with the BdB BN. It's just a consistent wine, and as you said, you can track it down for under $50 with some effort.
5/17/23, 9:26 PM - Hi. Based on my note from 2021, I would not spend for it but this is subjective. You may like the style, and also maybe you are getting a good price?
5/18/23, 10:09 AM - 25 in the wine pricing these days is about as low as things can go for something that is beyond mass produced. A generalization I suppose but for that price, why the heck not.
4/30/23, 10:58 AM - So few notes on this wine so having yours helps to enlarge this discussion. A bottle like this is probably destined to keep someone hating on the wines...did it succeed with them? I have a single 2013 I bought back in late 2017 and probably should open it and see how it is doing.
5/1/23, 11:28 AM - A related reply....when I visited her last year, she poured me a 2013 Resonance that was really delicious. Drinking with an integrated profile, with some white chocolate (sounds bizarre, I know) and I'm lucky to have one left. I know that her wines, this style may not be for everyone, and I've learned and continue to be mindful to being respectful and open to other styles, even very direct opinions about style that may not be my own. Such a divisive time we live in, where people of an opposite view are seen less as people and more as objects that are wrong. It's a daily mindfulness, even with wine, Melvin, to see people as people, with a richness of difference.
4/21/23, 10:10 AM - Hi. Not sure you will see this message, but if you do I wanted to tell you that I created a new entry to recognize the perpetual nature of this cuvee. Since Cedric Mousse lists the vintage components on the back label, it's very easy to make the new listing work. By the way, you have your note above listed as "2019". If it matters to you, this I don't believe is accurate. You are drinking 2014-2018, which is the 2018 as base, and the 2019 was not even in the cuvee yet. This is where you could put your note into my new listing (Perpetual 2014-2018).....but some people, maybe you, see this as too much detail. I respect that!
4/20/23, 8:40 AM - Terrific note. Thank you.
4/14/23, 8:46 AM - Wow. Great praise here for that cuvee. I have a bottle left to drink so this helpful. Thank you.
4/8/23, 8:32 PM - That code is the key. That is the 2014, disgorged December 2021. "141221"
4/14/23, 8:36 AM - Community is the word. We gotta help each other. Those codes are sometimes hard to read, and even sometimes the bottles don't even have one. Frustrating, especially in the realm of NV, such as with Latitude and Longitude. We have community notes posted, with takes about them from all kinds of diverse palates, yet we can't compare across these notes what base vintage/disgorgement tasters are writing about because the tasters don't post them, or more likely, don't know what the code means and even know it's there!
4/1/23, 2:44 PM - Really appreciate the note here and thank you for the good writing, as well. I just picked up another one of these yesterday and I'm going to tee it up and serve it blind with some other things this coming week. We'll see how the group reacts to it blind.👊
3/27/23, 9:30 AM - Damn, I wish I have tasted this on Saturday. It was gone when I went to the table late in the day. I bought a few in the recent release so I am glad it's coming.
3/17/23, 9:41 PM - Thank you for the note. Was looking at reloading a few more of these. Very timely!
3/13/23, 8:56 PM - Cool note. About your bottle data, you're close. But as a correction, that is 2014 base, disgorged January 2017. You've got over 8 years of age there in that wine. Cool!
3/14/23, 11:06 AM - The convention on how to read that code is not changed since even your bottle was etched so it still applies today. I had a few bottles of the 19 recently and it's drinking really well but to have a 14 is pretty cool because of the age that you're buying on that. For what it's worth also I paid 50 bucks without tax out of Florida for my recent 2019s
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