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85 Points

Thursday, February 14, 2013 - I do not understand why people review this wine positively. It is hot alcoholic mess with no structure to support over extracted fruit. As big as fruit is, burning sensation in the back of the palate dominates profile.
It did not get better over three days and I do not see how it would be better with aging. I guess I should have known better when I saw 16.1% alcohol.

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  • Comment posted by Griffeyfan04:

    2/14/2013 8:15:00 AM - You may want to give this wine a a year or two to come together or maybe try another bottle. Sometimes there is bottle variation and looking at the average scores it doesn't seem like your bottle fits the bill does it? Bummed you didn't enjoy it. I usually wait on my Epoch's a couple of years....Cheers!!

  • Comment posted by caeleric/cae_cpa:

    2/14/2013 10:44:00 AM - this is why i don't rate wines. your 85 is some else's 95. there's nothing wrong with that, but your tasting note (and all your tasting notes in comparison) speak much more to your personal preferences and how this wine did (or did not, as was the case) fit into what you like. i'm always left scratching my head when someone buys a big, ripe, high-alcohol wine like this and complains about how big, ripe and alcoholic it was. i'm not offended, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but because this wine delivered EXACTLY what it sets out to be should have told you all you needed to know.

  • Comment posted by megropolis:

    2/14/2013 2:12:00 PM - Thanks for comments. Maybe there is a better way to respond to specific comment made but I want to respond caeleric/cae_cpa. This is my first experience with EPOCH and I did not try Saxum yet though I am not new to Cali Rhone varietals and enjoy Tensleys and Albans. I kind of expected the style thinking it could carry the size and alcohol. In my opinion, alcoholic burn and a lack of apparent tannic structure to balance the fruit is a technical flaw in this bottle. Of course this is based on my personal experience and understanding. I tend not to rate wines. I was compelled to put a score on this wine because I used other people scores (and uniformity of opinions) as part of my purchase decision and I think this wine is flawed. My opinion on this wine might be in the minority for now - so what? One of the lessons for me is to buy fewer wines with 16% alcohol.

  • Comment posted by caeleric/cae_cpa:

    2/14/2013 2:26:00 PM - cool. thanks for the response. i still recommend checking out some of epoch's other offerings. i wrote a note on this as well, and didn't rate it as highly as i have their other stuff. that said, they're overpriced for what they are. they are NOT in the same class as alban, lillian, saxum, etc.

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