Just not the best year for this wine. Have had other vintages that were just more defined, more zin like. This bottle seems just a bit heavy or muddied, some good zin qualities on the nose but they seemed to dim as the bottle came up to room temp and the palate just never hit a home run as some other years had. Overpriced in my opinion when compared against a few other zin/zin blends.
I humbly apologize for the negative notes I wrote about this wine. It may have been bottle variation, or this wine just might have needed more time, but this, my last bottle, was pretty damned tasty. Dark color, nice "zinny" nose, surprising richness, and a very good finish. There are better zins for less money, but not THAT much less.
@Taste of Texas, great bottle and reasonable price. Rich red fruit, bracing acidity initially but composes quickly. Great with a heavily marbled ribeye and seared button mushrooms. Long finish with blue fruit and brown cooking spice.
This needs serious time to open up but it rewards with many different flavor sand profiles along the way. Solid complexity but just a tad thin. Very expensive for what you're getting, but overall this is a great bottle.
I've written some pretty nasty notes about this wine in the past couple years. At this stage in its development, however, I feel compelled to say that it's not half bad. Decent red fruit on the nose and on the palate. Fairly full-bodied, with a very good, lengthy finish (where the alcohol was a little too prominent). All in all, a pretty good zin, albeit somewhat overpriced.
Opaque, purple-plum color in the glass. Nose of wood smoke and undefined berries. Rich, full, spiced fruitcake palate, but with enough acidity to keep things lively. Quite static structurally, with soft tannins perhaps made to seem sharper by the high alcohol (15.5%). Creamy finish with long fig and strawberry aftertaste.
We had a magnum of Saldo, which was more than plenty for four adults for T-giving meal. Let this breathe/decant for a couple hours and it opened up nicely. Nose & taste were of black cherry and some oak. Some earthy touches. Would describe as medium-bodied with just better than a medium finish. Good acidity/integration of the 15.5% alcohol made it a good match for the food. Winemakers notes indicated only 80% Zin & from 6 different AVAs. It struck me as more of a Dry Creek Valley Zin -- not timid, not robust -just elegant. What it seemed to lack that would have raised the score in my mind was the slightly spicy nature found in some good Zins from any AVA. Rated a little better than 89 the first night; the second night showed further improvement to be scored a 90. If you have a magnum, I would give it another year, although the standard bottle may be ready now with some breathing and decanting. This wine was neither a bargain nor overpriced.
Aromatics from this wine include strawberry and spice. On the palate this wine ripples with power! This is a big wine that envelopes the tongue with dark berries, thick coating tannins and a pop of spice. As the wine unfolds there are hints of tobacco and black cherry. There is a bit of heat as this heavyweight clocks in at 15.5% alcohol.
The 2009 Orin Swift Saldo easily broaches the "Best Wines Under $30" category. It's a great value for the money and serves as a crowd pleaser for red wine drinkers...especially those who like big, fruit-forward wines. However, the 15.5% alcohol shows through on the nose and the palette. Overall, it is a zinfandel that will make a regular appearance on my table. If you like Saldo, try its big brother from Orin Swift, The Prisoner. Wine Spectator rates the 2009 Saldo an 88, whereas the CellarTracker community gives it a 90. I rate it 89 points with a slight downgrade for the alcohol notes. A great wine to have on hand.
Rating Scale: Extraordinary (95-100 points); Outstanding (90-94); Very Good to Excellent (85-89); Good (80-84); Average (75-79); Below average (70-74); Avoid (50-69)
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Very nice easy drinking Zin. Not to be confused with the big bold reds we love but then it doesn't pretend to be. Nice soft nose and super smooth on the palate, dark stone fruits up front with a long spicey finish. Probably our new favorite Zin! Thumbs up to Orin Swift! If you like try his The Prisoner.
Dark garnet color with with strawberry black cherry and a touch of funk aromas. On the palate full-bodied, voluptuous supple tannins and dark cherry, blackberry, chocolate flavors. Long finish. 80% Zinfandel/9% Petite Sirah/8% Syrah/3% Grenache. 15.5% ABV. Suggested Retail = $28
Oak & eucalyptus with hints of fresh tar and vanilla ice cream sandwich on nose. Very flavorful with ripe plum & toasted oak. White pepper with slightly hot finish. Intense and heavy duty, room to improve over 2 years.
You really have to take this wine for what it is. It's not a dramatic wine or one that even exhibits exceptional structure/balance. In fact, it's somewhat angular with the acid/tannin profile being rather unrefined. However, it's still a tasty wine with some real high points and desirable characteristics that are sometimes hard to find in other wines.
The fruit is more typical of a wildberry due its brambly character (spice and pepper) and it's expressive on the nose and palate. There's a nice intensity there yet it's not overripe. This transitions to a very generous mocha/coffee note on the midpalate that's accentuated by the supple tannins and acids. Texturally, there's a convergence of acids and oak tannin that contribute to the overall impression of the characteristic. There's even a milk chocolate note possibly due to lactic acid levels (from MLF) in the wine. No doubt there's an oak influence here too in terms of taste which helps promote the mocha notes.
What's most striking is how harmonious the wine becomes on the mid-palate when all these influences intersect. For all its flaws, I admire how it expresses those coffee/mocha notes even if it only does so for a few passing moments. In that sense, it's a classic "palate-building" wine that is so key to building recognition.
If you come in with expectations of a traditional wine (Or Zin) you might come away disappointed. However if you approach it with an open mind chances are it will be a far more memorable wine despite its shortcomings. Recommend sharing this with someone who's relatively new to tasting so that you can help them discover some new wine characteristics. I don't know how it will develop over the years but my instinct is that it's best now since it likely wasn't built to age.
First night this was too big. But an hour of decanting on the second night and it mellowed out. Huge nose of dark fruit and cherries, obviously full bodied with a lasting finish which gives it some complexity. Not up to par with the 07 in my opinion, but still a typical Orin Swift. The first night this would have received mid 80s, but it evolved by night 2. Needs lots of air time and certainly more time in the bottle.
I was on vacation and picked up one of these bottles. I was able to let it open and breath out (just in the bottle) for about an hour. The pour was fruity and good. Overall the wine was smooth with no issue in part of the beginning or finish not going over well.
Profuse nose, but it smells like a can of freshly opened paint - black fruited. Hot nose. Alcoholic palate. Cherry/blackberry, pepper pot palate. Lots of alcoholic heat. Zin characteristic, but unbalanced. Mouth feel is the strength of this winemaker and spares the score from dropping into the 70's. Pregnant wife thought this was a blowtorch nose, but rich mouthfeel. I won't buy more. No QPR for a zin. YMMV.
Really expected more. Aerated and decanted this wine, but throuout dinner it never really evolved, staying basically hot and astringent. Still, you could tell if I had waited another year or two that this wine had potential to develop into something much better. My bad.
I had this as part of a Zinfandel tasting on 8/19/12. It had a dense, ripe, layered bouquet of black cherry, boysenberry, smoke, anise and spice aromas. The palate was rich, ripe and a little hot with flavors of burnt toast, black cherry, blackberry, anise, pepper and spice. 90+
A Bunch of Zins ($20 to $40): This is a love it or hate it wine. Inky purple in color. The nos has black raspberries, bramble, cinnamon. Juicy texture. Lots of black raspberries. Seamless and easy to drink. 15.5% Alcohol but not much heat. This is a jammy, in your face Zinfandel. It was the groups WOTN, but a couple did not like it at all. I think this is a crowd pleaser. At $30 Ohio, not cheap, but fun.
Restaurantkøb i Boston. PnP. Farven er mørkerød, duften ikke markant men der er nogle lidt sure bær at spore. Smagen er ensidig, bestemt ikke kompleks og efter min smag lidt for tør eller sur om du vil. Uden mad ikke særlig god men til mad i form af en stor bone-in prime rib-eye sker der lidt mere i vinen. Syren spiller godt op til kraftig mad og der begynder at komme toner af vanille og lidt krydderi. Parret med maden har vinen stået åben i ½ time og det er måske også med til at give vinen en lidt rundere smag. Ikke genkøb.
This was open when I came home . it had been open for at least a day with a pouring spout in it. over 2 days I would have a glass in the evening. This wine kept its composure and taste. Medium body, not typical of a Zin. I rather enjoyed it.
Strawberry and oak on the nose, with black fruit and pepper, along with a little bramble at the end. Lots of black fruit on the palate, supported by pepper and earth. It finishes with a little strawberry.
Dark nose, not very expressive. Peppery cassis and blackberry. On the palate, flavors of ripe strawberry and black fruits with nicely integrated oak. Mouth coating entry with nice structure and good acidity. Long finish with soft tannins and subtle oak sweetness. The tangy dark berry fruit is layered with pepper. Savory aftertaste.
One of my favorite Zins. Dark fruit, coffee and spice on the nose. Silky on the palette, with chocolate covered blueberries and firm tannins. Nicely balanced and not over-the-top. Great value at a price of $23 from Golden Gate Cellars.
Decanted 1 hour and rebottled. I had intended to open the 2008 but opened this by mistake but was pleasantly surprised at how balanced and approachable this is compared to the '08 at a comparable stage. Dark berry fruit on the palate with some typical spice and boysenberry but there were also notes of dark chocolate and integrated vanilla oak. Tannins were quite firm on the finish and there was just a little heat. Drank even better on day 2 when everything had come together nicely. It seems they have reduced the price for '09 to around $27 which makes it very good value in my opinion. Should improve over time.
ZAP 2012 Flights Forum (Westin St. Francis Hotel in San Francisco): Dark garnet color with with strawberry black cherry and a touch of funk aromas. On the palate full-bodied, voluptuous supple tannins and dark cherry, blackberry, chocolate flavors. Long finish. 80% Zinfandel/9% Petite Sirah/8% Syrah/3% Grenache. 15.5% ABV. Suggested Retail = $28
Had this bottle as part of a 7-way California Zin tasting (although the other 6 were less expensive). While this was both bolder and smoother than the others, it was still a little harsher than the last bottle in terms of heat and acidity and had less chocolate and more red fruit. Maybe it was the accompanying food, or maybe it needed a bit more aeration, but I found this one to be a bit more aggresssive than my memory. I'd give it a third try for a tie-breaker.
Jammy, fruit forward. Nice nose - fresh mountain spring scent over cherry and other fruits. . Caught blueberry and strawberry in the mid-palate with a nice finish. Nice Zin - will try to purchase more.
We tasted all the Orin Swift wines in one sitting (Prisoner, Saldo, and Abstract). They were all good, but not as good as we expected. Also, they generally all tasted the same (with obvious differences for the various blends). Our feeling coming out of the tasting was that Orin is trying to be too much for too many, and therefor ends up in the middle.
Had this a couple of moths ago and found this bottle a touch less generous. Big blackberry dusty fruits. Pleasurable and easy. No work to like this, but there wasn't as much stuffing and complexity as the last bottle.
nose: strawberries, rich red fruits taste: jammy, tantalizing fruits up front, vanilla, caramel, toasted finish, strawberry, raspberry, tannins barely there, simple, hint of spices, baking spices perhaps on the finish
Big and some tannins that melt with a little time. Red and black raspberry fruit. Lovely as well. A friend liked this more than last night’s 2009 Barber Cellars Dry Creek Zinfandel, Mr Beast. I liked the Beast a bit more.
Pop and pour on the road ... Not exactly consumed in ideal circumstances (way too warm, for one) but this vintage seemed dumber than the first we'd sampled. (Which we didn't all out love, but thought was solid.) A little too sweet and soft without a lot of backbone and very little spice. More of a grocery store Zin, lacking that Orin Swift finesse. Honestly, it wasn't flat out bad, but I was disappointed.
EDIT: This was a changed wine on day two. Creamy and far more lush and plush, this had a lot more going for it after a night on the counter. Still a little too syrupy sweet, but a LOT more interesting and nuanced overall.