tasted blind, and showed nicely, albeit less power than either the '98 or '99. but all in all it was very pleasing and might have been the best paring with dinner. Fruit bomb era beings in '98.
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Very average stuff. Thin fruit and dilute on the palate. Showing lots of maturity but without the stuffing to offer anything other than a simple Bordeaux. Drink now, it ain't going anywhere.
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A very nice St Emillion. I was able to taste this wine with herb and pepper crusted venison loin..a very nice pairing. The bouquet was very pronounced at opening without additional time in the decanter. The bouquet consisted of leather, black cherry, rasberry, and a hint of vanilla and smoke. The color was a beautiful red garnet and looked to be silky. The look of the wine did not contrast with what was to come on the palate. The 1997 Pavie was silky smooth in the mouth encompassing a medium feel with little to no tannins. The taste provided a smorgasbord of earthy red fruits, rose, hints of pepper and very subtle spices. The aforementioned attributes were more pronounced with just 30 minutes of air! I would suspect that this wine is at peak with an additional 3 years for enjoyment. Score 91 Points.
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Resolved colour. Lots of bricking. A nice nose of mature right bank - medium notes of cherries, rasberry and dark fruit. Good palate but on the way down - reasonable complexity that has a nice French twang to it - a touch of earthiness here as well. Drink now; Good:
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Head to Head: Chateau Pavie 1997 against a Chateau Paradis 1998 Pavie - light flavored, nice texture, citrus & fruity flavored (lots of berries). Paradis - strong flavored (only in comparison to the Pavie), lots of spices (primarily nutmeg and pepper). Lack of interesting oxidation (looses a great deal of it's kind properties), becoming lactic, acidic and unflavoured.
Conclusions: Both bottles could not improve through time in a cellar. Have a slight leather taste in them. Not a very fair match for the Pavie.
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Appearance: a bit muddy over two bottles (had two bottles in one afternoon). Nose: plummy earth. Taste: a bit watery, slightly sour on the finish. Taste is of plums and damp earth - there is some complexity here, but only slightly more than a vin de table. 2 dimensions rather than 3. No follow through - thin. Was expecting a more rounded and balanced effort. This wine must be drunk now - it has really hit the down slope. Overall not bad as a wine, but dissapointing given the estate.
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Ruby red color with a nose of raspberry, plum fruit and hints of menthol, palate was slightly diluted with lots of acid backed by sour/tangy fruit, medium finish with rough tannins and the quintessential Emilion toast
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Medium garnet core, fading to a broad pale garnet rim. Moderate intensity on the nose, vanilla oak being the dominant aroma, some underlying stewed red berry fruit, smells a bit like Rioja Reserva. On the palate this is medium bodied, with quite firm (medium +) acidity. There isn't much tannic structure here, nor is there a whole lot of fruit on the mid-palate with vanilla oak again to the fore, some stewed red berry fruit but not enough to stand up to the oak, which persists on a medium/good length finish. Overall disappointing, not enough depth and what there is over-dominated by oak. Didn't stand up well to food (grilled lamb chops) and can't see it getting any better.
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6/24/2023 - soyhead wrote:
tasted blind, and showed nicely, albeit less power than either the '98 or '99. but all in all it was very pleasing and might have been the best paring with dinner. Fruit bomb era beings in '98.
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1/21/2018 - Baco Noir Likes this wine:
This has held up really well over 20 years. Had a nice smooth medium body and plenty of flavor left - dark cherry and currant. Pleasantly surprised.
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6/4/2012 - pjaines wrote:
Very average stuff. Thin fruit and dilute on the palate. Showing lots of maturity but without the stuffing to offer anything other than a simple Bordeaux. Drink now, it ain't going anywhere.
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4/1/2012 - dcwino wrote: 85 Points
GJE CRD 2008 and EP 2011; 3/29/2012-4/4/2012 (Bordeaux, France): Really thin, very Burgundian without the nose. The last vintage of the previous owner.
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3/6/2012 - wineman73 wrote: 91 Points
A very nice St Emillion. I was able to taste this wine with herb and pepper crusted venison loin..a very nice pairing. The bouquet was very pronounced at opening without additional time in the decanter. The bouquet consisted of leather, black cherry, rasberry, and a hint of vanilla and smoke. The color was a beautiful red garnet and looked to be silky. The look of the wine did not contrast with what was to come on the palate. The 1997 Pavie was silky smooth in the mouth encompassing a medium feel with little to no tannins. The taste provided a smorgasbord of earthy red fruits, rose, hints of pepper and very subtle spices. The aforementioned attributes were more pronounced with just 30 minutes of air! I would suspect that this wine is at peak with an additional 3 years for enjoyment. Score 91 Points.
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8/18/2011 - erichrod wrote: 91 Points
Decanter 1/2 h. Wrong? Could be better or not.
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2/5/2010 - Zweder wrote: 86 Points
Occasional tasting group: "Terroir or bottles with a story" (@ TBa): Elegant bouquet with red fruits and a light dose of oak. Same on the palate. Light acidity. Light bodied and almost an Italian style of wine.
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12/27/2009 - pjaines wrote:
Resolved colour. Lots of bricking. A nice nose of mature right bank - medium notes of cherries, rasberry and dark fruit. Good palate but on the way down - reasonable complexity that has a nice French twang to it - a touch of earthiness here as well. Drink now; Good:
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8/2/2009 - creixell wrote:
Head to Head: Chateau Pavie 1997 against a Chateau Paradis 1998
Pavie - light flavored, nice texture, citrus & fruity flavored (lots of berries).
Paradis - strong flavored (only in comparison to the Pavie), lots of spices (primarily nutmeg and pepper). Lack of interesting oxidation (looses a great deal of it's kind properties), becoming lactic, acidic and unflavoured.
Conclusions: Both bottles could not improve through time in a cellar. Have a slight leather taste in them. Not a very fair match for the Pavie.
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1/22/2009 - apmarques wrote: 91 Points
not great vintage - even so perfect. Time to drink. I don´t think it stands 2 more years in the cellar.
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9/16/2008 - pjaines wrote: 80 Points
Appearance: a bit muddy over two bottles (had two bottles in one afternoon). Nose: plummy earth. Taste: a bit watery, slightly sour on the finish. Taste is of plums and damp earth - there is some complexity here, but only slightly more than a vin de table. 2 dimensions rather than 3. No follow through - thin. Was expecting a more rounded and balanced effort. This wine must be drunk now - it has really hit the down slope. Overall not bad as a wine, but dissapointing given the estate.
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10/6/2007 - mtdv wrote: 88 Points
Deep garnet in color with silky stone fruit flavor, but a bit too thin. We were expecting more of a lush round tannin.
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6/1/2006 - duchamp wrote: 91 Points
Ruby red color with a nose of raspberry, plum fruit and hints of menthol, palate was slightly diluted with lots of acid backed by sour/tangy fruit, medium finish with rough tannins and the quintessential Emilion toast
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11/18/2005 - Paul D wrote: 79 Points
Medium garnet core, fading to a broad pale garnet rim. Moderate intensity on the nose, vanilla oak being the dominant aroma, some underlying stewed red berry fruit, smells a bit like Rioja Reserva. On the palate this is medium bodied, with quite firm (medium +) acidity. There isn't much tannic structure here, nor is there a whole lot of fruit on the mid-palate with vanilla oak again to the fore, some stewed red berry fruit but not enough to stand up to the oak, which persists on a medium/good length finish. Overall disappointing, not enough depth and what there is over-dominated by oak. Didn't stand up well to food (grilled lamb chops) and can't see it getting any better.
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7/27/2003 - chbeaumont wrote:
Blood red, deep lacks lustre; strawberried, pastilles, blackcurrant, gentle graves like; soft savoury, attenuated, lightweight, decent luncheon claret. drink now. 13
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5/21/2003 - JustOneMore wrote: 75 Points
What a dissapointment.
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