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2004 Château Pavie |
| Vintage | 2004 |  Label 1 of 24   | |
| Type | Red | ||
| Producer | Château Pavie (web) | ||
| Variety | Red Bordeaux Blend | ||
| Designation | n/a | ||
| Vineyard | n/a | ||
| Country | France | ||
| Region | Bordeaux | ||
| SubRegion | Libournais | ||
| Appellation | St. Émilion Grand Cru |
| Community Tasting History |
Community Tasting Notes (average 92.8 pts. and median of 93 pts. in 29 notes) | |
| Tasted by jhannah27 on 1/1/2010 & rated 92 points: Popped and dumped into a decanter on night one, and drank immediately. LOVED the nose of this wine with great forrest floor earthiness and dark berries. Unfortunately, the palate doesn't hold up to the nose at this point. Everything is a bit muted and hiding under some pretty harsh tannins. We set it aside in the decanter over night and on night two it was showing only slightly better. You can tell that this wine has all the pieces in place to be quite sensational down the road, but right now it is just too young and needs more time for everything to settle down. Great structure, balance, and flavor profile. Need to get more and hang on to it for 5-10 years. (591 views) | |
| Tasted by RoundersRob on 1/1/2010 & rated 93 points: This needed about 24 hours in the decanter to really start to show it's stuff. Wonderful nose of cassis, leather, and some plum. Excellent weight and complexity on the palate with a dry finish. Even after the long decant the tannins still had a good grip on the wine. When the tannins do integrate, you'll have quite a gem on your hands. (584 views) | |
| Tasted by dmalcolm on 11/7/2009 & rated 93 points: Very tight and closed. Decanted for 6 hours. Still delicious! Dark purple/black colour. Lots of dark fruit, currants, and leather. The oak was also nicely integrated. Hold. (1150 views) | |
| Tasted by vanpe003 on 10/11/2009 & rated 93 points: Mid-Fall Wine Tasting (Down's Lake): Another late night addition, and another waste, at least that night. Closed, didn't show very well at all. Next day - much better. Opened up and smooth. Dark fruit and Mediterranean herbs on a lush palate. Some of the brooding dark components from the first day have softened and this is a much more attractive wine the second day (16 hours in a decanter forgotten about on the kitchen counter). (1466 views) | |
| Tasted by peblin on 9/26/2009 & rated 93 points: Pavie Vertical: Red-black color, very concentrated and opaque. Smell of tobacco, ashtray, cedar, mature cheeses (taleggio), cherries. Some green notes. Elegant, lots of tannins, long taste. (1507 views) | |
| Tasted by Finare Vinare on 9/26/2009 & rated 92 points: (1138 views) | |
| Tasted by mrener on 3/26/2009 & rated 98 points: Amazing!!! Incredible tannin great acidity! Leather and very fruit forward. On the nose blackberries with some ether and mint. On the palate tabacco, red and blackberries. As Ricardo said we had this puppy way too young! Wine should be put to rest for at least another 5yy. 98+. (2623 views) | |
| Tasted by Anonymous on 2/28/2009: Full, ripe fruit, but clearly Bordeaux with dominant lead pencil and coffee notes. Well structured, with a masculine but almost elegant profile. Good length. Very enjoyable. (2609 views) | |
| Tasted by vanpe003 on 2/22/2009 & rated 93 points: More approachable than the '03 at an early age. Smoky, scorched earth over dark fruits on the nose. Midpalate is rich, finish is slightly clipped by a note of bitterness which largely gives way with some time in the glass. I'm assuming that will blow off with a bit of age and/or a decant. Strikes me as having a nice balance and good structure for aging. But strikingly good now. Update: 4 hours later, this is starting to become a "wow" wine. I would have added another couple of points, but there's still just a bit of bitter on the finish that remains distracting. (2679 views) | |
| Tasted by lars1014 on 1/31/2009 & rated 93 points: Had this with steaks at Murry's. This is a hugely structured wine with loads of coffee, tar, tobacco, and polish. Hold this wine for a very long time. (2770 views) | |
| Tasted by the godfather on 11/2/2008 & rated 94 points: this has all teh stuffing, just needs time, thr impecabale balance suggests you can wait as long as you want (3153 views) | |
| Tasted by Anonymous on 10/31/2008 flawed bottle: Corked bottle, overly tannic and acidic. (3153 views) | |
| Tasted by Claudio161 on 9/22/2008 & rated 91 points: 2004 - The Last Affordable Vintage? (Sweets and Savories. Fullerton near Ashland. Chicago. IL): Sight: Very dark. Can't see through it. Medium viscosity Smell: Dark fruits abound. Black currant, black berry, black cherry, maybe some tree plums and cassis. A smell of "jamminess". Taste: Black currant extract - very intense. Great bordeaux flavors rain throughout. Significant spice component as well. Overall: great wine 91- points. Revisit: Needs more age, and the point rating is based on the revisit (letting sit in glass for about 20 mins). Orginal point rating would have been 89-90. (3294 views) | |
| Tasted by Kdawg on 9/22/2008 & rated 88 points: 2004 Bordeaux- the last affordable vintage? (Sweets and Savories, chicago IL): nose: bold but tight nose of roasted cedar tones, coffee, smoke, black cherries, and anise. When this was blind, I mistook it for a graves(notably I guessed this to be the smith-haut-lafite) taste: ridiculously tannic with roasted coffee tones, black cherries, and anise overall: in fairness, this wine wasn't decanted before the tasting, and was just bottle aired and was put towards the end of the second flight. Still, since this was a blind tasting, we can only go on what was present at the time, and it was just brutally young. Insanely tannic and wasn't as expressive on the nose as I'd expect from Pavie. This really needed more air time and under different circumstances, I'd probably have different notes, but be it as it is, this is how the bottle showed tonight (3288 views) | |
| Tasted by soyhead on 5/31/2008: Nose - dark fruit, toast, tobacco, and a volatile compound that reminds me of acetone. Delicious fruit, but very very very tannic. Wow. Gum numbing and could be considered an alternate to novicaine. Impossible to rate (3877 views) | |
| Tasted by Anonymous on 5/19/2008 & rated 90 points: Tasted this 2004 in Pavie vertical with 2001, 2002, 2003. The 2004 stood out from the others as being a bit harsh and having strong tannins with a slight bitter finish. Definitely the weakest of the lot at this time. The 2001 was probably my fav, 2003 next 2002 thereafter, but all in all all three were very similar with substance and delicious. (5158 views) | |
| Tasted by noppakit s. on 4/18/2008 & rated 94 points: There is nothing but good. No terroir, new technology, computer wine. Reminds me good Napa such as Maiden or Matriach so called this wine " Napa-Pavie " Mild scent of modern Rightbank, quite clean and deep, full-bodied, ready to drink, austere, dense, long finished and powerful aftertaste. Drink now - 2017....94-95/100.... not my style...again... (4291 views) | |
| Tasted by loverboy on 4/18/2008 & rated 93 points: Dinner at Ember (Ember, Bangkok): Big dark red with stunning nose of concentrated fruits. Full and very dense wine. someone finds it too dense. But I love dense stuff!!!!! (4307 views) | |
| Tasted by the drops of god on 3/28/2008 & rated 92 points: Serious, needs time feels very tight so dense intense dark red fruit long round finish. Closed for business will open one in 3 years (4368 views) | |
| Tasted by Anonymous on 3/15/2008 & rated 95 points: (2437 views) | |
| Tasted by petitblanc on 3/11/2008 & rated 92 points: A bit lighter than the previous bottle, with slightly more aggressive and bitter tannins. This may be closing up a bit. Still showing much promise and a nice Bordeaux character. I will try to lay off these for a few years. (4686 views) | |
| Tasted by Icarus on 1/23/2008 & rated 94 points: Dinner at Chris Palm's: The nose gives a very intense expression to dark fruit, espresso, chocolate, cherry cough syrup and mineral. The intensity of the taste is very impressive but is dominated by pure fruit at the moment (it reminded me a bit of the 01/02 Harlan with respect to the purity of the fruit). Tannins clamp down hard and obscure the finish. Should be an excellent wine to enjoy over the long run. (5339 views) | |
| Tasted by Siggy on 1/23/2008 & rated 95 points: Tasting Group Dinner - Paella, White Burgundy, Steaks, and Bordeaux (Chris Palm's House, Minneapolis): Soaring nose. Dark scorched earth, tobacco, tar, licorice, and blackberries. Intense, slightly sweet dark fruit. Waves of minerals and flowers. Despite the power and scale of this wine, it is impeccably balanced and really well structured. Delicious and my co-WOTF. (5259 views) | |
| Tasted by petitblanc on 10/5/2007 & rated 94 points: Remarkably dark, inky grape color. Closed tight at first, but showing hints of mineral, toasted marshmallows, and lilac. Wood, dark berries, and mineral, with judicious alcohol, juicy acidity and mouthcoating tannins clamping down on the short finish. The 14% alcohol shows but doesn't overpower. This opened up nicely after an hour in the glass, showing waves of tea, coffee, mineral, rust, grass, tobacco, saddle leather, squash, dark fruits -- a full range of Bordeaux flavors. The finish also became very long, warm and fruity. Already lots of sediment in this 375 ml bottle. Powerful, not elegant or subtle, but should age quite well. This could be wonderful in 10 years or more, if you can resist it that long. (5644 views) | |
| Tasted by win on 8/3/2007 & rated 92 points: Very enjoyable wine--a crowd favorite. (6076 views) | |
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About red wine The variety Red Bordeaux Blend on CellarTracker implies any blend using any or all of the five traditional Bordeaux varieties: Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, Cabernet Franc, Petit Verdot and Malbec. As such, this is used worldwide, whether for wines from Bordeaux, Meritages from California and Canada, some Super-Tuscan wines etc. Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia) Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux) | Simple Bordeaux primer Libournais (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux) Saint Emilion Grat Classified Growth, Classified Growths, Grands Crus Classes, GCC In 1954, while the "Graves" growths had just published their own classification, the wine syndicate of Saint-Emilion, composed by wine growers, brokers and wine traders with the approval of the INAO - Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (A.O.C), decided to work on a classification for the wines of Saint Emilion. Initially, four grades were defined. These were reduced to two - First Great Classified Growth (A and B) and Great Classified Growth - in 1984. As of Medoc's 1855 historical grading, the Saint-Emilion Great Classified Growth classification is not only based on qualitative criteria by tasting the wines on a ten years period previous to the assessment, but also on commercial considerations such as: - sales price levels - national and international commercial distribution - the estate's reputation on the market Properties who don't manage to join the club of about sixty Classified Growths are given the denomination of Great Growth ("Grand Cru"), while the remaining wineries of the A.O.C are simply reported as "Saint-Emilion". It is to be noted that the owners must officially apply to appear in the official classification. Thus for example the famous Chateau Tertre-Roteboeuf, whose quality and reputation would easily justify to be listed among the First Great Classified Growths, does not appear here by the will of its owner, François Mitjaville. The Saint-Emilion Great Growth classification was revised in 1969, 1985, 1996 and 2006. The only two guaranteed vintage (A.O.C) who can apply to the classification are the "Saint-Emilion Grand Cru" and "Saint-Emilion" areas. By grading 61 properties, the 2006 revision confirmed many growths from the former classification, but also caused a number of surprises and a few inevitable disappointments. Many observers thought that the impressive progression of Perse's Chateau Pavie since 1998 would be rewarded by an upgrade into the First Great Classified Growths (A) category, but finally such was not the case. Among the estates promoted to the First Great Classified Growths  category are Chateau Troplong-Mondot and Pavie-Macquin, whose efforts made since the Nineties fully justify their new grade. It should be noted that no First Great Classified Growth was relegated to the lower Great Classified Growth class.
Promoted growths from the status of Great Growth ("Grand Cru") to Great Classified Growth ("Grand Cru Classe") are: Chateaux Bellefont-Belcier, Destieux, Fleur Cardinale, Grand Corbin, Grand Corbin-Despagne and Monbousquet.
The demoted growths from the status of Great Classified Growth to Great Growth are: Chateaux Bellevue, Cadet Bon, Faurie de Souchard, Guadet Saint-Julien, La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Belivier), La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Moueix), Lamarzelle, Petite Faurie de Soutard, Tertre Daugay, Villemaurine and Yon-Figeac. If the recent samples of some of the above mentioned properties may justify their current downgrade, there are great chances that estates like Bellevue, Tertre Daugay or Yon-Figeac will be upgraded to their previous rankings by the next revision in 2016 as the progresses noted after 2000, but not entering in the range of vintages (1993 - 2002) appointed for the criteria of selection for the 2006 classification, are noticable.
The two following estates have completely disappeared from the Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classification: Curé-Bon-la-Madeleine (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Canon) and La Clusière (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Pavie).
Finally, no estate considered as "garagiste" has integrated the classification. Valandraud, Mondotte, Le Dome, Bellevue-Mondotte or Magrez-Fombrauge have, for the least, the potential to be ranked as Great Classified Growths. In sight of the very fine quality reached by the above mentioned estates in recent vintages as well as all the innovative wine making methods used by the "garagistes", it remains to be seen whether the authorities will dare to cross the line in 2016..?
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