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| Community Tasting Notes (average 94.5 pts. and median of 94 pts. in 41 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by hkbob on 11/23/2023 & rated 95 points: One for the hedonists. This poured an opaque purple with no signs of age. Dark aromatic profile of blackberry liqueur, fig, creosote, tar, iron and a hint of sweetness later emerging with air. A full, plush mouthful of dark plummy fruit with mouthwatering acidity pulling it all together. Most of the action here was on the front to mid palate. Some tannic grip on the finish. This shows quite young still with a lot of primary fruit. Absolutely delicious and I suspect it has a long runway and further upside ahead. (1563 views) | | | Tasted by Burgnick on 7/27/2023: The 08 Trotanoy was rich and tightly coiled. Lots of underlying substance but it still needs plenty of time to fully unfold. It needs a long decant if you must consume now. (2476 views) | | | Tasted by Lord of the Bottles on 7/22/2023 & rated 94 points: Taken to a BBQ. My last bottle. Classic soft merlot berries with hints of green tobacco and camphor. Some Lafleur-like mulberry. Drink now with air or feels this would be even better in a few years. Lovely texture already though. 93-94 (2202 views) | | | Tasted by Lord of the Bottles on 7/2/2023 & rated 93 points: Bottle 5/6. Less expressive than prior bottles with a tannic spline. Deep purple fruit and flowers, tightly-wound morelo cherry finish. 93/100 (2254 views) | | | Tasted by Lord of the Bottles on 5/6/2023 & rated 93 points: Bottle 4/6. This was more classic and a tad less exuberant than previous bottles. Some green notes and book leather and black fruit. 92-93 (2421 views) | | | Tasted by KenK on 4/23/2023 & rated 95 points: Rich plummy red fruited with a rich seamless nearly lush mouth coating texture, came across young and yummy, perhaps still in need of some more nuance, but a drinking great. (2098 views) | | | Tasted by Lord of the Bottles on 4/16/2023 & rated 94 points: Bottle 3/6. Decanted an hour ahead and was just opening as we sat down. This bottle was a little less hedonistic and a little more classic than others recently. Pipe tobacco, hint of emerging leather, morelo cherry, medium to long finish. Don’t remember this vintage’s blend but the cabernet franc is coming out quite strongly at 15 years with some classic green notes. 94+ (1921 views) | | | Tasted by Lord of the Bottles on 3/19/2023 & rated 94 points: Bottle 2/6 paired with Iberico pluma and red velvet cake for Mother’s Day! This was decanted for 2 hours and tasted of rich morelo cherry fruit, chocolate, satsuma and classic hints of green pepper/capsicum and leather. Got less pronounced but smoother and creamier then closed a bit at the 3 hour mark. Not an in-your-face vintage but classic and smooth. 94+/100 (2028 views) | | | Tasted by Lord of the Bottles on 1/29/2023 & rated 95 points: Paired with Hare Pithvidier. Classic Pomerol. Mint and stem nose which became fruitier/earthier. Very giving palate of morelo cherry, blue and red fruit, mint chocolate and a 15 second finish of waves. Classy and elegant rather than blockbuster. In its early drinking window with plenty of hedonistic fruit and emerging tertiary notes of leather and stem. 95/100. At this stage decant for at least an hour as it was fully open towards the two hour mark. (2340 views) | | | Tasted by SpitzNV on 8/18/2022 & rated 93 points: Decanted for an hour and drank over another hour. Nose dominated by fresh spearmint but also a bit of cedar, tobacco, funk and dried thyme. Palate is quite lean: cranberry, steak juices, and rosemary. Grippy tannins with medium acid. 30 second finish of dried cherry, mint and lavender. Very nice but at the price expected a bit more. (3346 views) | | | Tasted by wxs2102 on 7/21/2022 & rated 94 points: At Manhatta NYC. Big menthol notes on the nose that mellowed out over the course of 1-2 hours. The fruit was bright, the mouthfeel a perfect roundedness, gritty tannins that are decently integrated but has room to go, a classic Pomerol polish and finesse on the finish. It got more integrated and velvety with air as the night went on. Clearly one of the triumphs of the vintage, this is good to go today but should hold for 5-10 more years at peak. (3422 views) | | | Tasted by Claret & CdP Gang on 12/9/2021 & rated 93 points: Slow oxed overnight, beautiful nose, v young still with bold tannins, rich Pomerol nose, creamy & oaky, in the mouth biggish but not in sync still, try after 5 years but needs at least 10 years to reach peak, will be v good once ready
93-95 (4398 views) | | | Tasted by jmoon on 11/28/2021 & rated 93 points: Had next to a Giscours 09, which was quite classic in comparison. This wine is quite open, plush, and ripe with soft dark fruits. Two hour double decant prior. Tasted young and bold despite decant. (3855 views) | | | Tasted by KenK on 9/27/2021 & rated 95 points: Perfumed aromas of pretty violets, dark fruits and good ripeness.
Deep rich long liquid flowers, popourri, soffit rich powerful. Really good, sexy. Velvety, voluptuous and deep. Long and rich. Very impressive, young, powerful and balanced. Just in early drinking window. Wow wine. (4152 views) | | | Tasted by Suzyquatro on 1/29/2020 & rated 94 points: Na 3 uur karaf - Glanzende donkerrobijnrode kleur - Neus van krachtig, vlezig rijp fruit, zwarte chocolade, kruiden en tikje sigaar - Vol en fluweelachtige textuur in de mond met frisse terugkomende lagen, zuren en tannines in harmonie, complex en elegant met nog heel wat potentieel - Lange afdronk met tonen van zachte chocolade - Nog jong ! (2320 views) | | | Tasted by CamWheeler on 10/26/2019 & rated 93 points: Truffles and a couple of bottles: Plum, graphite, red currant, ash - good aromatics and fragrance. Approachable even with the strong tannic firmness. Persistent with ultra classy fruit. Great to check in on this, but more time needed. (5913 views) | | | Tasted by Kriz on 7/20/2019 & rated 92 points: This is not complely ready yet. Very good wine but will come together some more. Nose with ripe plum, blackberry and some oak. Powerful palate. Creamy, tasty, grippy, oaky. Hold for at least 3 years. (5939 views) | | | Tasted by Thanart on 6/12/2019 & rated 95 points: Attractive bouquet, berries fruits, cedar, tar. Fine tannin and some level of acidity that provide freshness for the palate. Strong cellar potential. Unique evolution of the wine as time passes by.
Decant for about 2 hours. (5135 views) | | | Tasted by OmiyaDrinker on 9/21/2018 & rated 92 points: Dark plum, red liqorice, clove, aniseed. Delicious, rounded fruit flavor, nice freshness with medium+ acid. Carrying just a little heat on the finish. Needs time as it is still quite compact and youthful but should be delicious in another 5 years or so. A good find from the Systembolaget. Drank in Sweden on the eve of Dave’s wedding on an empty stomach while contemplating golf. (6302 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 9/17/2018 & rated 97 points: Full bodied and packed to the gilled with layers of juicy, sweet, chocolate coated, black cherries and plums. Stubbornly hanging on to its youth, the wine is concentrated, long, round and tannic. There is freshness, purity and a wealth of fruits in the finish that move from black cherry, to sweet, deep plum effortlessly. This is going to age quite nicely. (6830 views) | | | Tasted by Collector1855 on 5/19/2018 & rated 96 points: Another winner of this estate. Wonderful nose of dark fruit with some leather, smoke, black current, sweet spices. Elegant, polished tannins, refined, not as brooding as 2000 and 2010. A grand Pomerol start-to-finish. Early, decant or better wait another 5 years. 96+ (5600 views) | | | Tasted by soyhead on 2/11/2018: bold and powerful. in a lovely space. (4409 views) | | | Tasted by Zweder on 5/19/2017 & rated 95 points: Occasional dinner group: Riesling GG and Top Pomerol (@ Zarzo): Beautiful, inviting and complex bouquet with dark berries, licorice, earth and autumn flavors. On the palate dark berries, licorice, good acidity and length. Round and powerful tannin. A real beauty with a great future. (6250 views) | | | Tasted by otto60 on 5/14/2016 & rated 95 points: Starting with half bottle Coravin over 2h followed by cork removal due to private reasons.
Dark red transparency with first signs of maturity.
On start rubber nose, later dark fruits and some mint followed by a high density bouquet with iron fruit and loam.
Long and very homogenous palate with just enough highly fine grained tannin.
Two more bottles..drink until 2035 or so.
CT average is 94,9 today, i agree.... (6584 views) | | | Tasted by MWiking on 6/18/2015 & rated 94 points: drack detta igår och måste säga att det var ruskigt gott trots sin ungdom
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Vinous, A Century of Bordeaux: The Eights (May 2018) (5/18/2018)
(Trotanoy Trotanoy Red) Subscribe to see review text. | By Jancis Robinson, MW
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(Ch Trotanoy Pomerol Red) Subscribe to see review text. | By Andrew Jefford
Decanter, Jefford's top Trotanoy vintages to try (2/3/2017)
(Château Trotanoy, Pomerol, France, Red) Subscribe to see review text. | By John Gilman
View From the Cellar, Sep/Oct 2013, Issue #47, Château Trotanoy: One of Pomerol’s True First Growth Estates
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(Ch Trotanoy Pomerol Red) Subscribe to see review text. | By John Gilman
View From the Cellar, Jul/Aug 2011, Issue #34, Re-Visiting the 2008 Bordeaux Vintage: Is It Superior to Both 2009 and 2010?
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Vinous, May/June 2009, IWC Issue #144
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| Château TrotanoyCHÂTEAU TROTANOY
Appellation : Pomerol
Vineyard size: 7.20 hectares (17.8 acres)
Vineyard grape varietals: 90% Merlot – 10% Cabernet Franc
Soil types : Gravel on clay and black clay on iron pan
Purchased by Jean-Pierre Moueix in 1953, Château Trotanoy has been considered one of the premier crus of Pomerol since the end of the eighteenth century. The soil of Château Trotanoy is a very dense mixture of clay and gravel which tends to solidify as it dries out after rain to an almost concrete-like hardness, hence the name “Trotanoy,” or, in other words, “too wearisome” to cultivate.
The Trotanoy vineyard slopes gently to the west. The soil at the highest point of exposure contains a good proportion of gravel, becoming progressively more dominated by clay as the elevation declines. Under this clay is a subsoil of red gravel and an impermeable layer of hard, iron-rich soil known as “crasse de fer.” This fascinating soil diversity brings power, depth and complexity to the wine. Trotanoy is vinified in small concrete vats, while aging takes place in oak barrels.
Trotanoy is a naturally profound, complex, richly-concentrated wine with outstanding aging potential. The wine possesses a deep color and a dense, powerful nose, repeated on the palate with the addition of creamy, dark chocolate notes, and a singular concentration of flavor owed to its very old vines.
Producer Website (Moueix) – Read about Chateau TrotanoyRed Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)
History of Bordeaux
History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification
"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanLibournais Libournais (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux) - Read more about St. Emilion and its wines - Read more about Pomerol and its wines
Saint Emilion Grat Classified Growth, Classified Growths, Grands Crus Classes, GCC
In 1954, while the "Graves" growths had just published their own classification, the wine syndicate of Saint-Emilion, composed by wine growers, brokers and wine traders with the approval of the INAO - Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (A.O.C), decided to work on a classification for the wines of Saint Emilion. Initially, four grades were defined. These were reduced to two - First Great Classified Growth (A and B) and Great Classified Growth - in 1984.
As of Medoc's 1855 historical grading, the Saint-Emilion Great Classified Growth classification is not only based on qualitative criteria by tasting the wines on a ten years period previous to the assessment, but also on commercial considerations such as:
- sales price levels
- national and international commercial distribution
- the estate's reputation on the market
Properties who don't manage to join the club of about sixty Classified Growths are given the denomination of Great Growth ("Grand Cru"), while the remaining wineries of the A.O.C are simply reported as "Saint-Emilion". It is to be noted that the owners must officially apply to appear in the official classification. Thus for example the famous Chateau Tertre-Roteboeuf, whose quality and reputation would easily justify to be listed among the First Great Classified Growths, does not appear here by the will of its owner, François Mitjaville.
The Saint-Emilion Great Growth classification was revised in 1969, 1985, 1996 and 2006. The only two guaranteed vintage (A.O.C) who can apply to the classification are the "Saint-Emilion Grand Cru" and "Saint-Emilion" areas.
By grading 61 properties, the 2006 revision confirmed many growths from the former classification, but also caused a number of surprises and a few inevitable disappointments. Many observers thought that the impressive progression of Perse's Chateau Pavie since 1998 would be rewarded by an upgrade into the First Great Classified Growths (A) category, but finally such was not the case.
Among the estates promoted to the First Great Classified Growths B category are Chateau Troplong-Mondot and Pavie-Macquin, whose efforts made since the Nineties fully justify their new grade. It should be noted that no First Great Classified Growth was relegated to the lower Great Classified Growth class.
Promoted growths from the status of Great Growth ("Grand Cru") to Great Classified Growth ("Grand Cru Classe") are: Chateaux Bellefont-Belcier, Destieux, Fleur Cardinale, Grand Corbin, Grand Corbin-Despagne and Monbousquet.
The demoted growths from the status of Great Classified Growth to Great Growth are: Chateaux Bellevue, Cadet Bon, Faurie de Souchard, Guadet Saint-Julien, La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Belivier), La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Moueix), Lamarzelle, Petite Faurie de Soutard, Tertre Daugay, Villemaurine and Yon-Figeac. If the recent samples of some of the above mentioned properties may justify their current downgrade, there are great chances that estates like Bellevue, Tertre Daugay or Yon-Figeac will be upgraded to their previous rankings by the next revision in 2016 as the progresses noted after 2000, but not entering in the range of vintages (1993 - 2002) appointed for the criteria of selection for the 2006 classification, are noticable.
The two following estates have completely disappeared from the Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classification: Curé-Bon-la-Madeleine (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Canon) and La Clusière (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Pavie).
Finally, no estate considered as "garagiste" has integrated the classification. Valandraud, Mondotte, Le Dome, Bellevue-Mondotte or Magrez-Fombrauge have, for the least, the potential to be ranked as Great Classified Growths. In sight of the very fine quality reached by the above mentioned estates in recent vintages as well as all the innovative wine making methods used by the "garagistes", it remains to be seen whether the authorities will dare to cross the line in 2016..?Pomerol Wikipedia | French wine guide - Read about Pomerol |
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