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 Vintage2008 Label 1 of 28 
TypeWhite
ProducerSchloss Lieser (web)
VarietyRiesling
DesignationKabinett
VineyardBrauneberger Juffer
CountryGermany
RegionMosel Saar Ruwer
SubRegionn/a
Appellationn/a

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2012 and 2019 (based on 8 user opinions)

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 90.3 pts. and median of 90 pts. in 23 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by kevin h on 5/22/2023 & rated 91 points: Not had this since 2015 but it has improved. Still youthful and zingy acidity but nice lemon and apple fruit. Nice intensity. Will keep but ready to go. (212 views)
 Tasted by Lilja on 5/26/2015 & rated 85 points: Bought at location in 2010.

Not at all as impressed now as I was back then. Remember it as much more delicate with bright, crisp fruit. Not all wines are suitable for ageing I suppose.

Developing nose with medium intense aromas of petro-chem, gravel, citrus fruit, grapefruit, apples, green grass and grapes.

Medium+, tart acidity with half dry sweetness. Lacking a bit of balance and intensity. Got no problem drinking it though! :) (2341 views)
 Tasted by karl.1480 on 5/25/2015 & rated 87 points: Clear, pale intensity lemon color.

The nose is youthful with a medium aroma intensity. Aromas of grapefruits, lemon, lime, stony mineral, melon, fresh grapes and petroleum.

Half-dry on the palate with a medium(+) tart acidity and medium body. The flavor intensity is medium with flavors of grapefruit, fresh grapes, lime zest, honeysuckle and green apples. The finish is medium and again a bit tart.

This was tasted along with 2012 Willi Schaefer Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Spätlese and this was obvious the weaker one. It lacks a bit of harmony and elegance and the grape material isn't really of the same high quality. Surprisingly youthful for it's age and really easy-drinking and refreshing. (1939 views)
 Tasted by kevin h on 3/29/2015 & rated 90 points: Evolving well. In between youthful and starting to show integrated fruit (nose less evolved than the flavour). Nice mix of lemon and apple fruit. with good acidity and not overly sweet. A potentially good Kabinett, needs a couple more years. (1916 views)
 Tasted by VinoVeloVinyl on 5/29/2014 & rated 90 points: Excellent Kabinett, ripe, juicy, packed with flavour of nectarine and mirabelle. Much like this imbiber it has put on a weight since 2010, now in a lovely drinking phase but I'd expect it to keep on going through to 2018. (2457 views)
 Tasted by ArtF on 5/11/2014 & rated 92 points: Not so sweet anymore. Finish had hint of slightly bitter almonds. Drink soon. (2254 views)
 Tasted by Captain Haddock on 5/24/2013 & rated 90 points: Rich and rewarding, all for 8% alcohol. (1808 views)
 Tasted by bpj87 on 4/8/2013 & rated 91 points: Sponti, yeasty, leesy aromas precede a lively palate of ample acidity, a hint of perceived sweetness, and plenty of minerality. Incredibly refreshing, with that electric palate sensation I find in the best young Rieslings – and it's real lightweight Kabinett! (1782 views)
 Tasted by paulst on 11/25/2012 & rated 91 points: Soft and lean with nice minerality and light acidity; sweet apple; some honey; moderate finish. (2176 views)
 Tasted by GoBlue2002 on 8/27/2012 & rated 89 points: Tasty and well balanced again, just lacking in aroma. (2039 views)
 Tasted by ArtF on 7/22/2012 & rated 91 points: Better than 6 months ago. Classic Mosel sweet/sour palate. Bright and effusive nose. Loved it. Should even be better in 6 months. (2119 views)
 Tasted by schwank on 7/11/2012 & rated 91 points: A very tasty bottle. Very light pear nose with round fruit. Some sweetness present cut by a nice acidity in good balance. Very happy with the value too... a solid drinker! (1507 views)
 Tasted by GoBlue2002 on 5/22/2012 & rated 90 points: Aromas of pear, peach, and citrus. Quite sweet for a kabinett, but still well balanced with high acidity. The finish is long, with moderate complexity. The wine paired well with Middle Eastern spiced meatballs. This bottle didn't last long... (1450 views)
 Tasted by ArtF on 3/26/2012 & rated 90 points: At A Cafe: Light hay with green tinges. Still slightly petulant initially. Slightly sweet on the palate, but that balanced with classic Mosel tartness. Drinking well now and good with spicy dishes, great with citrus sauces (broiled anjou pear with roquefort, duck leg with jerk spice in citrus sauce) (1448 views)
 Tasted by wineshlub on 1/15/2012 & rated 93 points: Popped and poured. Tangy aromas of minerals and apricots. Some spritz on the palate with crisp flavors of apples, petrol and minerals. Honeyed finish. Quite sweet for a Kabinett, but it has a full bore acid attack and a laser focus that nicely balances the sweetness. Riesling the way it should be, and at a great price. (1530 views)
 Tasted by baroloboy55 on 10/7/2011 & rated 93 points: Brilliant kab. Vibrantly acidic and impeccably balanced. Kabinett as it should be, I found it more polished and precise than the Carnes notes. Happy to have been able to reload recently (1819 views)
 Tasted by Charlie Carnes on 9/19/2010 & rated 92 points: Rieslings in Highlands; 9/18/2010-9/22/2010: This is in my riesling/kabinett zone. The wine is light yellow and has a beautiful musky hairy ripe riesling fruit aroma. Full and bright in the mouth, this wine blasts off when it hits, then cuts it swath like Zorro. Recommended! (2617 views)
 Tasted by EMichels on 7/13/2010 & rated 91 points: Lacking nose; Somewhat grassy; More round (2010 views)
 Tasted by Charlie Carnes on 7/11/2010 & rated 91 points: Just finished a whole bottle tonight... this is the real deal. The wine is light yellow and has a yellow fruit and zest attack. A style that I like, the wine is full, fruity, loaded with mineral, and it is also cut and precise. Nice followthrough... yum! (2244 views)
 Tasted by king-bing on 4/18/2010: Touch spritzy on opening, a litel muted. Gets going with time and air where it puts on weight. Somewhat like alcoholic apple juice! Decent, but not outstanding at this stage. (2386 views)
 Tasted by kevin h on 2/25/2010 & rated 89 points: Light nose and just a whiff of sulphur though I suspect that will fade. Zingy fruit and a bit of nice mineral. A little subdued at the moment but a proper Kabinett. (2214 views)
 Tasted by amateurwino on 10/15/2009 & rated 90 points: Petrol/dirt on the nose, dewy on the palate. Nice. (2337 views)

Professional 'Channels'
By Joel B. Payne
Vinous, January/February 2010, IWC Issue #148
(Schloss Lieser Brauneberger Juffer Riesling Kabinett) Subscribe to see review text.
By Jancis Robinson, MW
JancisRobinson.com (6/10/2009)
(Schloss Lieser, Brauneberger Juffer Riesling Kabinett Mosel White) Subscribe to see review text.
By Jean Fisch and David Rayer
Mosel Fine Wines, Jun 2009, Issue No 8
(Schloss Lieser Brauneberger Juffer Riesling Kabinett) Login and sign up and see review text.
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Schloss Lieser

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Riesling

Varietal character (Appellation America) | A short history of Riesling (Uncork) | Riesling (wikipedia)

Kabinett

Lowest must sugar content of Prädikat designation resulting in light wines, typically semi-sweet with crisp acidity.

Brauneberger Juffer

On weinlagen.info

Germany

Wines of Germany | The Association of German Prädikat Wine Estates (VDP) | How to read a German wine label | Geographical Information Down to Single Vineyards

#2014 Vintage Notes:
2014 Vintage Report by Terry Theise
2014 Vintage Report by Wine Spectator
"My gut still tells me the Saar (and to some extent) the Ruwer are better overall in 2014 than the more storied areas of the Mosel proper, but those that spent the requisite time living in their middle-Mosel vineyards made some of the most electric and "feathery" Riesling in a long time (maybe the finest in 20 years - yes, it's true!)" - Jon Rimmerman (Of course only a very short historical memory would call the Saar and Ruwer less 'storied' than the middle Mosel - jht)

Mosel Saar Ruwer

Starting in 2007 the German wine authorities have changed labeling laws to rename all of the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wines to just "Mosel." This puts this and other database driven sites in a difficult spot, as millions of old wine label reflect the former labeling. As described here, CellarTracker has elected to remain with the old labeling for a number of years to avoid confusion. At some point we will switch over to just "Mosel" but not for a few years at least.
Mosel WeinKulturland (Moselwein e.V.)

Detailed geographical information at weinlagen.info

#2018 Vintage Notes:
"Acid levels are relatively low throughout Riesling-growing Europe (acidification will once again be permitted in Germany – no surprise, as that’s been the case in eight of the last 10 vintages); but because malic acid was baked off or degraded by relentlessly balmy weather means, what acid remains is overwhelmingly of the efficacious tartaric sort. Extract levels are low, as one would anticipate from a growing season during which relatively little moisture was coursing through the vine’s roots and shoots. [...] Everyone is astonished how there could have been so much juice despite the drought." - David Schildknecht
"2018 is a homogenous vintage with a very high general level, below which it seldom falls [...] It leads with blossom. It is perhaps 80% delicious and 20% fascinating." - Terry Theise

#2017 Vintage Notes:
"not so friendly towards light wines" - Milkmansteve

#2016 Vintage Notes: "Overall, 2016 is a charmer of a vintage with much immediate ripe and fruity appeal, not unlike 2011 (in fresher) or 2007 (in lighter). However, 2016 is far from being homogeneous, in fact it is composed of a mosaic of vintages, a result of the freakish growing conditions. Hidden inside the vintage, there are true gems with the balance of 1997, one of the best vintages ever, 2002 or even 2008. The bulk of the harvest was brought in with refreshingly moderate sugar levels. Overall, the Saar and Ruwer produced slightly fresher wines than the Middle Mosel but there are great differences between Estates. The good harvest conditions allowed for some Auslese, little BA and even TBA wines, but some remarkably pure and fruity Eiswein.
In general, 2016 offers the opportunity to acquire Riesling with great immediate ripe appeal: The vintage is a true charmer. At the top, 2016 is one of the most exciting and elegantly balanced vintage since the 1990s and well-worth stocking up for cellaring! In particular, we urge our readers to literally plunge onto the finest Kabinett and Spätlese: These are some of the most exciting and classic we have ever tasted. 2016 looks also set to become a major vintage for dry Riesling, provided the aromatics are not overripe. Lovers of dessert wines will find much to love in 2016 as the Auslese are pure and the Eiswein are gorgeously fruity. They should however also keep an eye open for the remaining stunning noble-sweet wines from 2015 which are still available here and there." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 36, July 2017

#2014 Vintage Notes:
"The heterogeneity of the 2014 vintage carries over onto the aging process. The top wines start to close down, as one would expect from these wines which are a remake of those from the 1990s. The wines affected by gin, saffron and mushroom flavors are still comparatively open and offer a not unattractive Scheurebe styled fruit opulence. We would opt to drink up these lesser wines except for the odd bottle and bury the little treasures of the vintage deep into the cellar." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 30, March 2016

#2013 Vintage Notes:
"The fruity-styled 2013 wines have firmed up significantly since last year and start to show signs of closing down, making the underlying acidity seemingly sharp and out of balance. The better dry wines have come out of their early armor of smoke and tannin but the acidity may prove quite challenging. Quite frankly, except for some smaller bottlings, this is a vintage to lay down and wait." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2012 Vintage Notes:
"The 2012 wines have put on some flesh and go through a 'fattier' phase which is not unlike what the 2007 went through at the same period. However, the zestier acidity cuts through this 'weight' and makes the wines thoroughly enjoyable at this early stage. In particular the fruity Kabinett and Spatlese as well as the off-dry and dry wines offer much pleasure. We expect these wines to close down over the coming year or two. Enjoy while it lasts!" - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2011 Vintage Notes:
"A bit to our surprise, the 2011 wines have shut down and go through a quite difficult and muted phase now. Their low acidity combined with their maturity makes them feel rich, opulent and often bulky, and thus not really enjoyable. We expect that these will need at least a decade to integrate their sweetness and gain in harmony. The only exception is the dry wines, whose low acidity makes for great food companionship." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2010 Vintage Notes:
"After a mellower period in 2012, many 2010 wines have firmed up and developed a stronger smoky side. However, most continue to shine through their fruit opulence, structure and deliciously zesty but ripe acidity. This suits in particular the off-dry bottlings, which have more charm than the legally dry wines. Will these wines close down? Actually, the softening acidity makes us wonder now but it also provides further evidence that these wines will turn out harmonious after all." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2009 Vintage Notes:
"Most 2009 wines have closed down, which accentuates their round and soft side forward. Many can still be quite enjoyable but the times of primary fruit with its attractive aromatic expression and a generous acidic kick are now over. Except for the dry wines, we would definitely recommend keeping your hands off any bottle in your cellar and possibly buying more wines from this vintage on the market as these are true gems in the making." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

 
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