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| Drinking window: Drink between 2022 and 2028 (based on 5 user opinions) |
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| Community Tasting Notes (average 90.4 pts. and median of 91 pts. in 17 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by blaine on 2/11/2024 & rated 88 points: 4th of six. 15% alcohol, a little above my usual playing weight. Big fruit, a little lacking in acidity. Certainly round. Nice finish, but not my cup of tea. (1113 views) | | | Tasted by wine-enthusiast on 12/23/2023 & rated 92 points: Really shining tonite on PNP. Big fruit, blackberries, raspberries.
Oak is integrated. I ve had several bottles and they seem to be holding together. I have had a dud that just didnt seem to open a year ago. (1202 views) | | | Tasted by Hondo701 on 2/26/2023 & rated 91 points: 1 hour decant to dark purple in glass. Aromas of blackberry, currants, and oak with a little alcohol burn. Palate of blackberry, baking spice, currants, and a slight vanilla with fine-grained and almost dusty tannins. A medium, crisp acidity cleared to a long dark berry and baking spice finish. The wine has decent structure and can probably take a couple years to pick up some more nuance, but not one I would keep much past that. Overall, good bottle. (2481 views) | | | Tasted by wine-enthusiast on 2/12/2023 flawed bottle: This bottle just did notopen up, very muted. (2503 views) | | | Tasted by dera on 11/10/2022 & rated 91 points: Dark opaque ruby/garnet. Very, very thick glass staining viscous legs. Nose has lots of blackberries, woody oak, deep jammy cassis, and slight green menthol burn from high alcohol. Palate has dark ripe fruit, not quite stewed but slightly overripe blackberries, some herbal rosemary and savory thyme, chewy tobacco with a strong oaky backbone. It's a little low in acidity so it's still somewhat on the flabby side of things. Finishes medium+ with herbal and some medicinal notes. Not too tannic, could even be higher in my opinion. (2852 views) | | | Tasted by wine-enthusiast on 11/7/2022 & rated 92 points: Very nice, dark and medium full bodied. More complex with nice length on the palate. (2562 views) | | | Tasted by wmccone54 on 9/29/2022 & rated 92 points: Of the fifteen different offerings from the deNegoce lineup, which I’ve enjoyed the last few months, this is the best to date. Decanted and enjoyed with grilled sausages with peppers and onions. Displays a bright, deep ruby color and a full body. Early in development with some lingering youthful notes; displays power, balance, and elegance. Pronounced aromatics and flavors show floral violets, wild black raspberry, ripe cherry, juicy plum, cedar oak, creamy vanilla, with some emerging earth tone complexity. Tannin, acid, oak, and fruits are not yet integrated, but with additional cellaring this has lots of upside potential. Finishes strong. Probably still a bit early on some of these upper echelon 2017 Napa Cabs. Drink now with decanting and food, hold, or drink through 2029.
Regardless of the source, or whether these are “shiners”, for $26+ this wine was a “steal” and drinks as well as many of the $50+ bottles of “branded” Napa Cabernet Sauvignon in my cellar. Perhaps a bit over hyped in the offer, but the technical description of the wine was spot on. (2779 views) | | | Tasted by wine-enthusiast on 9/18/2022 & rated 89 points: This is a good wine, not a great one. I t does have bit of a sweet profle but it works. The is a sweet floral nose, but not as deep in complexity. (2438 views) | | | Tasted by Steve Simmons on 8/14/2022 & rated 92 points: PnP.
Grassl Cru glass.
Had with steak salad and home made rustic bread.
Seductive, deep garnet and glass sidewall staining when swirling. 15% but no burn on the inhale.
Sweet black fruit, menthol, cassis, bandaid? (although not detracting), overall very pleasing aromatics.
Mouth watering and enticing on the palate. More ripe black fruit, but not overripe or cloying, with enough acid to be palate cleansing and keepmypu.comong back for more. A healthy kick of alcohol with a big swallow, but for me it's fine and goes with the bigger fruit and full body profile.
In summary - this hit the spot tonight. More memorable and anjoyable than the previos bottle just a month ago. 92+.
79% Cabernet Sauvignon, 17% Merlot, 4% Petite Verdot 61% St. Helena, 26% Mt. Veeder, 13% Howell Mountain - all estate vineyards. 15% alc. Bottled November 2020 (2650 views) | | | Tasted by Hughes D. on 7/4/2022 & rated 85 points: I really wanted to like this wine but the sweetness is overpowering and ruined the wine. I can handle sweet wines as I am a port fan but this is not a "good sweet" like a port. I doubt aging this will help but you can try. Don't believe the hype on this one. (2321 views) | | | Tasted by fah on 4/29/2022 & rated 90 points: 89 to 90 points. Medium full body. Nice fruit, but weak tannins and acidity and therefore limited finish. This wine is ready now and probably won't improve with time. Not as good the 2nd day. Nowhere near as good as Cameron hyped up it up to be. Cost $29 (3105 views) | | | Tasted by Steve Simmons on 4/7/2022 & rated 92 points: 2 hour decant. 1st bottle of 6. Good to go. Had with steaks and baked sweet potato. 15% alc was well hidden and this bottle did not come across over ripe or overextracted to me.
Liked this better than the (round) 2017 OG146 reserve cab. (3101 views) | | | Tasted by Beatsmith8 on 4/3/2022 & rated 90 points: Good juice but very sweet (3175 views) | | | Tasted by ksj on 2/19/2022 & rated 94 points: Balanced yet powerful; everything one would want in a young Napa cab. While this was likely the most expensive of my de Negoce purchases to date, it is among the very best values as it tastes like an over $100 Napa cab (exactly as advertised by Cam). (3847 views) |
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de Negoce has now also opened a bottle shop where you can purchase individual bottles. You must buy in tranches of 6 or 12 and the price per bottle is higher than if you bought the "futures" case. 2017 de Négoce Cabernet Sauvignon OG N.274***ULTRA-PREMIUM SHINERS BOTTLED DECEMBER 2020
***TO BE RE-LABELLED AND SHIPPED MID-LATE JANUARY
Lot 274 2017 Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon is part of a collection of shiners originally intended for another brand and another sales channel that I simply haven't gotten around to launching. Positioned for a much higher price point of $50-$60/bottle, these wines represent some of the best of the Lots that I sourced during the Summer 2020, just prior to the Napa fires. Its an incredible offer at $25/bottle especially considering its been in the bottle for a year and drinking great.
This Cabernet Sauvignon comes to us from a fourth-generation Napa Valley winegrower located at the base of Spring Mountain just west of highway 29 in St. Helena. Everything here is sold mailing list only.
Lot 274 is straight out of their $150-$175/bottle Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon program, a blend of top lots from their three estate vineyards, the primary estate-vineyard located at the winery on the alluvials flowing out of the base of Spring Mountain in the St Helena appellation, the second high up on Mt. Veeder and the last an incredible site in the Howell Mountain AVA.
The style here is all about complexity, elegance and balance. This is a seamless wine from tip to tail, beautifully aromatic with rich fruit array over smooth, supple structure. Quintessential Napa Valley from a winegrower who's been making wine in Napa since the 80's.
Deep garnet in the glass. Uplifted, elegant bouquet of toasty black fruit interlaced with red rock and mineral-laced tobacco. Dark and extracted on the palate but still juicy with mouthwatering blackberry, cassis and toasted vanilla complexed with cedar, pipe tobacco and dark clay earth. The finish is long, pure, unctuous and lively with ripe, savory fruit that seems to last forever. Excellent acidity and balance throughout makes this a fantastic food wine. The open-knit 2017 vintage plus a year in the bottle makes this an even better choice for near-term consumption.
79% Cabernet Sauvignon, 17% Merlot, 4% Petite Verdot
61% St. Helena, 26% Mt. Veeder, 13% Howell Mountain - all estate vineyards.
15% alc.
250 cases available
Bottled November 2020Cabernet SauvignonCabernet Sauvignon is probably the most famous red wine grape variety on Earth. It is rivaled in this regard only by its Bordeaux stablemate Merlot, and its opposite number in Burgundy, Pinot Noir. From its origins in Bordeaux, Cabernet has successfully spread to almost every winegrowing country in the world. It is now the key grape variety in many first-rate New World wine regions, most notably Napa Valley, Coonawarra and Maipo Valley. Wherever they come from, Cabernet Sauvignon wines always seem to demonstrate a handful of common character traits: deep color, good tannin structure, moderate acidity and aromas of blackcurrant, tomato leaf, dark spices and cedarwood.
Used as frequently in blends as in varietal wines, Cabernet Sauvignon has a large number of common blending partners. Apart from the obvious Merlot and Cabernet Franc, the most prevalent of these are Malbec, Petit Verdot and Carmenere (the ingredients of a classic Bordeaux Blend), Shiraz (in Australia's favorite blend) and in Spain and South America, a Cabernet – Tempranillo blend is now commonplace. Even the bold Tannat-based wines of Madiran are now generally softened with Cabernet SauvignonUSAAmerican wine has been produced since the 1500s, with the first widespread production beginning in New Mexico in 1628. Today, wine production is undertaken in all fifty states, with California producing 84% of all U.S. wine. The continent of North America is home to several native species of grape, including Vitis labrusca, Vitis riparia, Vitis rotundifolia, and Vitis vulpina, but the wine-making industry is based almost entirely on the cultivation of the European Vitis vinifera, which was introduced by European settlers. With more than 1,100,000 acres (4,500 km2) under vine, the United States is the fourth-largest wine producing country in the world, after Italy, Spain, and France.California2021 vintage: "Unlike almost all other areas of the state, the Russian River Valley had higher than normal crops in 2021, which has made for a wine of greater generosity and fruit forwardness than some of its stablemates." - Morgan Twain-Peterson Napa Valley Napa Valley Wineries and Wine (Napa Valley Vintners)Napa ValleySt. Helena |
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