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| Community Tasting Notes (average 92.5 pts. and median of 93 pts. in 97 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by Jmrobotics on 11/27/2023 flawed bottle: Slightly bitter! (761 views) | | | Tasted by plitton on 12/13/2022 & rated 92 points: Brown edges, bright fruit, present tannins. Can age longer. (1585 views) | | | Tasted by Rixley on 11/5/2022 & rated 92 points: Opened and decanted for about 45 min - enjoyed over an hour. Lovely wine. Probably biased as we visited the vineyard on our honeymoon in fall of 92.
Absolutely delicious I king well. Currant, spice, a little leather . Still some light tannins and lively acidity. Not necessarily the longest finish, but a real pleasure. Enjoy! (1869 views) | | | Tasted by ASMB on 7/2/2022 & rated 94 points: Out of a Mag. Mature and drinking well. Cork was fully saturated. Definitely at the end. (2397 views) | | | Tasted by steinersing on 3/3/2022 & rated 96 points: From Imperial drinking very well. Early maturity with some secondary aromas but expressive, pure fruit still. Decent length. (2947 views) | | | Tasted by Collector1855 on 3/3/2022 & rated 97 points: During a Commanderie event. From Imperial. for many this was the wine of the night, beating the 2004 Haut Brion (also Imperial) and the 1998 Chateau Margaux. Beautiful mature Merlot nose with truffles, gingerbread, blueberry, cinnamon. Soft palate with well integrated tannins and enough acidity to support it. Simply wonderful. (3174 views) | | | Tasted by dnnk88 on 1/22/2021 & rated 92 points: Red fruits, dried berries, smokiness, herbs, tea. Slight tinge of ripeness but no issue. Enjoyed this. Open up. (2799 views) | | | Tasted by Grand Amateur on 12/29/2020 & rated 93 points: Strangely enough, the cork showed sign of slight seepage. It is the last bottle or a 12 case bought at the time and well stored. The other bottles did not show seepage. Upon opening, nice fruit but also drying end. Two hours later, very nice, broad, satisfying. Later, the nose becomes tawny port like. But the drying tanins come back. One hour later, the tannins are less prominent. A very enjoyable wine. Still many years of life ahead. The day after: Decanter smells nice but not very strong. The wine is declining. (2842 views) | | | Tasted by Bullethead on 10/3/2020 & rated 95 points: Stunning. Stand up for half week and decanted prior to serving to get rid of sediments. Funky mushroom forest floor pencil nose that I haven't been encountered in bordeaux for a while. It’s very pronounced. On palate the mouth feel is silky and very long finish. Great night with 2 friends born from the same year this pavie was produced. (2803 views) | | | Tasted by dnnk88 on 9/8/2020 & rated 92 points: Tues Wine Night @ Imperial GWC!: 1 of the 2 bottles which I brought tonight. Classical and matured on the nose. Red fruits, dried strawberries - palate is rather medium bodied, with smoked herbs, figs, black tea and slight tinge of bramble. Not opulent like the younger 2000s - this needed some time to come together and drank nicely after. CC commented that this may be a slightly off bottle. Till the next bottle! (2645 views) | | | Tasted by Collector1855 on 5/30/2020 flawed bottle: Blind. Unfortunately corked. The palate felt nice though good tertiary notes and also ripeness. (3932 views) | | | Tasted by Sean Tay on 3/24/2020 & rated 92 points: Smoke, cedar, toast, tobacco, earthy, cooked black fruits and leather notes. Drinking well and its in optimal drinking window. Paired it with beef and the tannin integrated well with the beef. (2610 views) | | | Tasted by rob.boothe on 1/2/2020 & rated 91 points: Medium purple edging to garnet. Decanted for 3 hours prior to serving. Honestly, perhaps a bit too long - lovely nose after an hour, by the time we got to the appropriate dinner course, it was a bit subdued. Balanced but not rich or commanding - was looking for an elder statesman, but instead got a retiring civil servant. Solid and with some notable achievements, but lacking the power to really wow us. (2385 views) | | | Tasted by WineClub85 on 11/30/2019 & rated 98 points: Perfect mature BDX, holding up nicely - fantastic vintage ‘90. (2217 views) | | | Tasted by Lype on 9/6/2019: Even after two hours of aeration a bit shy nose, on the palate violets, tobacco, leather, earthy tones, elegant and light, not a blockbuster, a tad round and soft with some sweetness, a classy and good claret which did not quite live up to its expectations this night, in all probability a bottle thing. (2542 views) | | | Tasted by mac-eye on 6/16/2018 & rated 94 points: Very nice. It held up extremely well over 28 years. Very smooth with pure fruit flavors. Excellent balance, and beautiful color.
Definitely not beyond its drinking window.
Very similar to the way I remember another bottle I opened way back in 2002, when it was the group's favorite. This one is just a bit softer. (3854 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 11/19/2017 & rated 90 points: Looking a little older than its true, due to the lightness of color, the nose served up its delicate blend of forest floor, sweet, red plum and cherry and tobacco notes with little to no effort. Softly textured on the palate, with an earthy, fresh, bright red berry finish. (5554 views) | | | Tasted by curtr on 6/18/2017 & rated 91 points: A well stored bottle. Smooth, medium to big bodied, fully resolved, yet not diminished a bit, my WOTN. (5301 views) | | | Tasted by empire80 on 4/23/2017 & rated 94 points: Very much as my previous note (5383 views) | | | Tasted by nstow on 3/2/2017 & rated 90 points: 11th of 12. Still surprisingly sweet elegant berry fruit on the nose but more earthy leather on the palate. Relatively light. 4/5 (5407 views) | | | Tasted by wDave on 1/15/2017 & rated 89 points: Our last bottle. Served with a lamb ragu over polenta. Still showing very well. Bouquet came on as soon as I pulled the cork. Fruit there, tannins balanced, finish long and a little tannic - great pleasure 27 years later. (4271 views) | | | Tasted by pepmi on 12/31/2016 & rated 91 points: I wish all of my investments had the same rate of return! Purchased upon release for $67/bottle, the auction price now approximates $162.
Just the beginning of browning on the edges suggestive of what this wine will become. At the core though, a dense Barolo-like, rich red that speaks very much to the present.
A slight sense of Beefeater Gin on the nose. Quite heady with Juniper, and tight tannins. The strength of this wine suggests a drinking window ten years ahead but only for the dedicated few who will give up the power of raw fruit for a more nuanced tasting experience.
On its own, the wine is a bit stringent and tight. With a table of food though, the wine melds easily and plays quiet conductor to the more showy dishes on the table. Be prepared to put your mind to work, cyphering what this wine is versus what you think it should be. (3590 views) | | | Tasted by retired_and_roving on 11/19/2016: Q4 - 2016 Tasting - Anything Goes Theme (New York, NY): #3 of 22 wines tasted double blind. From looking and smelling, it was obvious we were back to the old world with glass three. Color was browning and a bit cloudy. The nose was a bit funky with earth and leather. Not a lot of fruit left on the palate but all those lovely tertiary flavors were showing up in full measure. Never had a Pavie before and from what I have read about about how big and modern they can be this really surprised me on reveal because this wine was very elegant. This was top second quartile for me, and second place overall for the group with 9 pennies voted (3395 views) | | | Tasted by MC2 Wines on 11/19/2016: Q4 2016 Wine Club (The Apt): Wine #3: We clearly have some Bordeaux lovers in the group as this was one of the favorites. The age on it is clear and as another note mentioned it's prob time to start drinking up. Fruit mostly faded, but still has notes of soy sauce and leather. (9 pennies) (3264 views) | | | Tasted by SimonG on 11/3/2016 & rated 92 points: St Emillion First Growths (Chez Bruce, London): Deep mid ruby. Dense and really rather gorgeous nose. Ripe and full with a nuanced, floral, suave nose. Quite rich on the palate without being fat in the slightest. Possibly again, just a little dry on the finish. **** (2992 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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JancisRobinson.com (5/21/2010)
(Ch Pavie St-Emilion Red) Subscribe to see review text. | By Jancis Robinson, MW
JancisRobinson.com (8/6/2009)
(Ch Pavie St-Émilion Red) Subscribe to see review text. | By Stephen Tanzer
Vinous, The 1990 Clarets...To Have and To Hold (Nov 1993) (11/1/1993)
(Pavie Pavie) Subscribe to see review text. | By Richard Jennings
RJonWine.com (1/23/2011)
(Château Pavie) Very dark red violet color with thin, clear meniscus; tart plum, cassis, youthful, tobacco nose; youthful, ripe currant, cassis, red plum palate; medium-plus finish 93 points |
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| Château Pavie Producer website - Read more about Chateau Pavie
The vineyard on weinlagen-infoRed Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)
History of Bordeaux
History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification
"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanLibournais Libournais (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux) - Read more about St. Emilion and its wines - Read more about Pomerol and its wines
Saint Emilion Grat Classified Growth, Classified Growths, Grands Crus Classes, GCC
In 1954, while the "Graves" growths had just published their own classification, the wine syndicate of Saint-Emilion, composed by wine growers, brokers and wine traders with the approval of the INAO - Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (A.O.C), decided to work on a classification for the wines of Saint Emilion. Initially, four grades were defined. These were reduced to two - First Great Classified Growth (A and B) and Great Classified Growth - in 1984.
As of Medoc's 1855 historical grading, the Saint-Emilion Great Classified Growth classification is not only based on qualitative criteria by tasting the wines on a ten years period previous to the assessment, but also on commercial considerations such as:
- sales price levels
- national and international commercial distribution
- the estate's reputation on the market
Properties who don't manage to join the club of about sixty Classified Growths are given the denomination of Great Growth ("Grand Cru"), while the remaining wineries of the A.O.C are simply reported as "Saint-Emilion". It is to be noted that the owners must officially apply to appear in the official classification. Thus for example the famous Chateau Tertre-Roteboeuf, whose quality and reputation would easily justify to be listed among the First Great Classified Growths, does not appear here by the will of its owner, François Mitjaville.
The Saint-Emilion Great Growth classification was revised in 1969, 1985, 1996 and 2006. The only two guaranteed vintage (A.O.C) who can apply to the classification are the "Saint-Emilion Grand Cru" and "Saint-Emilion" areas.
By grading 61 properties, the 2006 revision confirmed many growths from the former classification, but also caused a number of surprises and a few inevitable disappointments. Many observers thought that the impressive progression of Perse's Chateau Pavie since 1998 would be rewarded by an upgrade into the First Great Classified Growths (A) category, but finally such was not the case.
Among the estates promoted to the First Great Classified Growths B category are Chateau Troplong-Mondot and Pavie-Macquin, whose efforts made since the Nineties fully justify their new grade. It should be noted that no First Great Classified Growth was relegated to the lower Great Classified Growth class.
Promoted growths from the status of Great Growth ("Grand Cru") to Great Classified Growth ("Grand Cru Classe") are: Chateaux Bellefont-Belcier, Destieux, Fleur Cardinale, Grand Corbin, Grand Corbin-Despagne and Monbousquet.
The demoted growths from the status of Great Classified Growth to Great Growth are: Chateaux Bellevue, Cadet Bon, Faurie de Souchard, Guadet Saint-Julien, La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Belivier), La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Moueix), Lamarzelle, Petite Faurie de Soutard, Tertre Daugay, Villemaurine and Yon-Figeac. If the recent samples of some of the above mentioned properties may justify their current downgrade, there are great chances that estates like Bellevue, Tertre Daugay or Yon-Figeac will be upgraded to their previous rankings by the next revision in 2016 as the progresses noted after 2000, but not entering in the range of vintages (1993 - 2002) appointed for the criteria of selection for the 2006 classification, are noticable.
The two following estates have completely disappeared from the Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classification: Curé-Bon-la-Madeleine (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Canon) and La Clusière (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Pavie).
Finally, no estate considered as "garagiste" has integrated the classification. Valandraud, Mondotte, Le Dome, Bellevue-Mondotte or Magrez-Fombrauge have, for the least, the potential to be ranked as Great Classified Growths. In sight of the very fine quality reached by the above mentioned estates in recent vintages as well as all the innovative wine making methods used by the "garagistes", it remains to be seen whether the authorities will dare to cross the line in 2016..?St. Émilion Grand Cru Les Vins de St. Émilion (Syndicate Vitocole de Saint-Emilion) – Read about St. Emilion
Vins de Bordeaux:
Grape Varieties: Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot
Soil: Sandy soils with alluvial gravel deposits
Surface Area: 4,160 ha |
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