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 Vintage2008 Label 17 of 17 
(NOTE: Label borrowed from 1973 vintage.)
TypeWhite - Off-dry
ProducerSchloss Schönborn (web)
VarietyRiesling
DesignationSpätlese
VineyardErbacher Marcobrunn
CountryGermany
RegionRheingau
SubRegionn/a
Appellationn/a
UPC Code(s)767946206117

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2017 and 2030 (based on 37 user opinions)

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 89.9 pts. and median of 90 pts. in 15 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by bcg14 on 5/24/2023 & rated 89 points: Lower acid and took a long time after opening to become somewhat harmonious. (160 views)
 Tasted by Kentw on 8/14/2016 & rated 88 points: Drinks more like a desert wine as some have noted. Almost as sweet as a desert wine but just short of it. Golden color and some age may be contributing to the character. Lacks acidity, which makes it a bit flat. Long finish and Not bad with curry chicken. (1015 views)
 Tasted by mwneil on 3/15/2015 & rated 92 points: Great color, nice bouquet; complex with a long finish that really takes the wine to another level; sweet but I think with plenty of acid to balance it; drank with pork chops; could be a dessert wine; would drink again; it reminded us again of how good German wines can be. (1584 views)
 Tasted by nectar14 on 3/4/2015 & rated 88 points: Gold straw color. Nose of botrytis-tinged peach and lime. Medium bodied and plenty sweet, wanting a bit more acid. Medium finish. (1528 views)
 Tasted by Rich S on 2/13/2015 & rated 87 points: From an aromatic and flavor perspective, this wine is great. Nose of white florals, honeysuckle, baked pear, citrus and a hint of candied lemon. Very tropical and sweet stone fruit flavors on the palate. This wine falls short for me in the acidity department which is really what these sweet rieslings need. The wine just felt a bit flat and cloying on the palate both with and without food. Some people would probably flip for this wine based on the aromas and flavors but it is lacking acidity. (1469 views)
 Tasted by Charlie Pendejo on 12/25/2014: Everyone else mentions finding the acidity at least adequate - I must have gotten the low-acid bottling! Where Joel Payne says, "luscious tropical fruit flavors and bacony tang come across as lively rather than sweet," this came across as sweet rather than lively to me, on both nights, with and without food. I have another bottle; may try to hold it long enough that it eats some of its sugar. (1492 views)
 Tasted by bechi on 11/17/2014 & rated 92 points: Honeycomb, wild flowers, hay, cider and butterscotch, balanced by grapefruit zest - perfectly balanced acidity. Irresistible. (1078 views)
 Tasted by Col.Harding on 9/29/2014 & rated 90 points: Delicious - crisp, with lovely fruits (apricot, melon, yes) on the nose and in the mouth, sweet but with enough acid not to be cloying or anything other than delightful (1037 views)
 Tasted by Genghis88 on 9/15/2013 & rated 91 points: Deep yellow, low alcohol
Scent of warm cooked pears, with sweet honey hints
Light lychee, apricot, cantaloupe fruity taste, much like the nose
Sweet underpinnings, jammy with a medium (+) finish

We were all taken by surprise with this inexpensive little gem. Definitely one of the best Rieslings we have had in awhile. (1190 views)
 Tasted by MattTM on 3/31/2011: Wine Festival Tasting Room, quick notes. Tart nose of apricot, melon, and citrus notes. Tart red apple on the palate, along with some honey, minerals, and citrus. Crisp dry medium length finish. Good. (1614 views)

Professional 'Channels'
By Joel B. Payne
Vinous, January/February 2010, IWC Issue #148
(Schloss Schonborn Erbacher Marcobrunn Riesling Spatlese) Subscribe to see review text.
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Schloss Schönborn

Producer Website

2008 Schloss Schönborn Erbacher Marcobrunn Riesling Spätlese

Importer Notes

"Deep yellow fruits wedded to flamboyant spices and great acids. The 2008 shows initial signs of maturity as expected, but remains remarkably fresh and energetic to drink, light and bright as many 2008s happily are, and still in the middle of its evolution. One of the most successful of the library wines we've unearthed from Schonborn's magnificent cellars." - Importer

Vineyard:
"The site sits on the Rhine facing due south, and is composed of lush reddish, rock-strewn soil with a network of underground springs feeding and fertilizing it naturally." - Importer

Producer:
"This is the oldest estate in Germany under continuous family ownership: 27 generations spanning over 670 years. "No other estate in the Rheingau possesses such a bevy of fine vineyards as this highly traditional property in Hattenheim," writes Joel Payne. Indeed, their formidable holdings of 50ha in the Rheingau comprise choice parcels in 38 vineyards, which include virtually all of the top sites of the appellation. Most have been in the family's care since 1349; several fabulous sites, like the grand cru Erbacher Marcobrunn, were added in the 17th and 18th centuries. Ninety percent of the production is Riesling. Yields are exceptionally low and the best wines are aged in monumental 100-year-old casks." - Importer

Schloss Schönborn Erbacher Marcobrunn Riesling Spätlese

Wines produced at the estate
http://www.schoenborn.de/The-wines.99.0.html?&L=1

Riesling

Varietal character (Appellation America) | A short history of Riesling (Uncork) | Riesling (wikipedia)

Spätlese

Wikipedia article on Spätlese.

Erbacher Marcobrunn

Fromhttp://www.schloss-reinhartshausen.de/static_site/lagen_em.html

The site of “Marcobrunn” has a slightly inclined slope with southern exposure and is located in the district of Erbach. Its name dates back to the 13th century and reminds us of a “Brunnen” (well) situated on the boundaries between Erbach and Hattenheim. The vineyard covers an area of 6.7 ha and is essentially cultivated with Riesling vines which find here the perfect growing conditions.
Here in the Marcobrunn site, the terroir is the source of the quality of its wines. The heavy and deep soils are multi-layered. Loess loam and chalky soil formed of marl and sand provide for excellent nutrients and balance the water supply during dry periods.

The Erbacher Marcobrunn enjoys international acclaim and belongs to the richest and most valuable sites in Germany. Body, power and structure of the wines are in great harmony with the freshness of its minerals and its elegance. They are known to have been appreciated hundreds of years ago by Goethe, Schlegel, Fontane, Jefferson and many more.

German:
Lagenbeschreibung:
Der Marcobrunn liegt in der Gemarkung Erbach 50 Grad in nördlicher Breite, 26 Grad nach dem Meridian von Ferro und enthält an Fläche 8 7/8 Morgen. Die nächste Waldung ist 1200 Klafter entfernt. Südlich stößt er fast an den Rhein. Der Weinberg liegt 210 Pariser Fuß über der Meeresfläche. Die mittlere Temperatur ist 11 Grad Reaumür.

Boden:
Der Boden trägt unverkennbare Spuren von Auflösung. Man findet abwechselnd Letten, die hier und da mit etwas Mergel, schwerem und Lehm wenige Sandadern, auch Traß. Nicht selten zeigen sich die verschiedenen Erdarten schichtweise übereinander und enthalten öfter Wassermuscheln in großer Zahl. Als untermischte Steinadern finden sich Quarz, Wacke, Würfelschiefer, auch eine Granitart. Die meisten solcher Steine, wie auch der Traß sind eisenschüssig. Felsen fanden sich hier nicht, obwohl 6-12 Fuß in die Erdschichte eingeschlagen wurde. Die Steine mögen sich zur Erde verhalten wie 1 zu 10. Der Humus ist nur aus Dung erzeugt, dessen alle 3 Jahre 80 Karn pro Morgen eingebracht werden. Schädlich dürfte der Traß seyn, welcher Metalloxyd enthält.

Geo Data

Germany

Wines of Germany | The Association of German Prädikat Wine Estates (VDP) | How to read a German wine label | Geographical Information Down to Single Vineyards

#2014 Vintage Notes:
2014 Vintage Report by Terry Theise
2014 Vintage Report by Wine Spectator
"My gut still tells me the Saar (and to some extent) the Ruwer are better overall in 2014 than the more storied areas of the Mosel proper, but those that spent the requisite time living in their middle-Mosel vineyards made some of the most electric and "feathery" Riesling in a long time (maybe the finest in 20 years - yes, it's true!)" - Jon Rimmerman (Of course only a very short historical memory would call the Saar and Ruwer less 'storied' than the middle Mosel - jht)

Rheingau

VDP Rheingau (Official site) | The Rheingau (Wines of Germany) | Wikipedia about The Rheingau
On weinlagen.info

The small but fine wine-growing area Rheingau offers one for the culture of the vine ideal microclimate and best soil conditions. The Rhine runs uninterruptedly almost one thousand kilometres from Basel up to its muzzle into the North Sea, in a northerly direction. With a short exception - the Rheingau. The Rheingau mountains force the river to a change in direction here. The vineyards falling in this region to the south stretch really to the sun. The king of the white wines, the Riesling, finds ideal local conditions for the unfolding of his fine fruity and elegant type of vine character on the multilayered weathering grounds with loess, loam and sand additions.

 
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