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| Drinking window: Drink between 2020 and 2027 (based on 15 user opinions) |
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| Community Tasting Notes (average 91.4 pts. and median of 91 pts. in 13 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by chatters on 2/7/2024: Initially this was a bit sweet and sour so, at the chaps recommendation, we gave it a gentle decant and it blossomed. Noticeable though not intrusive whole bunch, a sense of generosity to the dark hued cherry fruit, baking spice. This more refined than shouty...I think I'll give the other bottle a couple more years though (228 views) | | | Tasted by chatters on 9/23/2023 flawed bottle: Australia vs New Zealand Pinot Noir (Prince Sydney, 40 Hansard Street): Flat, dead, muted fruit, grippy woody tannins. Not corked but defo not right FLAW (323 views) | | | Tasted by chatters on 9/23/2023 flawed bottle: Australia vs New Zealand Pinot Noir (Prince Sydney, 40 Hansard Street): New bottle but same issue except worse…flat as a pancake. FLAW (334 views) | | | Tasted by LetItRide on 11/30/2022 & rated 89 points: I was looking forward to trying this bottle with hopes it would deliver in a big way.
Day 1: My first impression is of a wine that is deeply pigmented for a Pinot Noir , highly extracted and has a certain degree of power if not much nuance and finesse.
Day 2: Hasn’t budged. Didn’t experience the improvement described by prior CT contributors. Missing the florals, spice and clarity I seek in this varietal.
Lacking the perfume and ineffable mysteries of a quality Chambolle Musigny or for that matter the delicious Pinot Noir of Oregon from the likes of Kelley Fox, Lingua Franca, Cameron, Thomas, Eyrie, Cristom, Drouhin Roserock Zepherine and the list goes on.
I’ve got two more bottles of Cuveé H that I’ll cellar for a few years on the off chance that more time will help . Looking to the crystal ball ….. don’t expect a late bloomer here. (278 views) | | | Tasted by chatters on 9/20/2022: Smells dense, concentrated, funky wild ferment interferes with the fruit purity. Hmm nose. Juicy, very slight sour and bitter, tight woody tannins, a little cherry. Not quite. (489 views) | | | Tasted by Rote Kappelle on 7/23/2022 & rated 94 points: Listening to Robin Trower's 'Victims of the Fury' and it works with the power of this fantastic, opulent yet varietally correct wine.
I am a bit troubled by the fact that my review will be an outlier compared to the others on this site regarding the wine. However, I am fortified by the fact that my views are closer to those of Bob Campbell MW than the other reviewers (with the honourable exception of R2 D2).
The colour is deep, garnet with some hints of brick. It speaks of a potent Pinot, because the colour is far deeper than usual for this variety.
On day 1 this was dominated by oak aromas and I confess I was struggling to love it. Day 2 and it is a different beast. Now it is all about roast beetroot, dark cherry, a touch of funk and then below that some smoke and black tea. Wow! Kaboom!
The palate has also undergone a revolution over two days. Yesterday it was taut and a little hard to enjoy; today it is supple, starting rich and opulent and finishing clean and fresh. At first you question its length, but then you realise it is still whispering to you, a long time after you thought you were done with it. This has that elusive combination of weight whilst tripping the light fantastic - ethereal.
On the basis of development over 2 days, decanted, I think it has a lot of time ahead and it will just keep getting better. If you open it now, keep most of it for day 2. (1344 views) | | | Tasted by Mr Squiggles on 9/20/2020 & rated 89 points: More dark cherries and raspberries than savoury mushrooms or sweet cloves. This has a well-drawn length and finish to it that shows some care has been taken in the production. Still showing a ruddy red hue. Its decent although I am not sure how much time will develop it. I am not rushing to get more. (541 views) | | | Tasted by RonniePiemonte on 6/17/2020 & rated 90 points: Crowd pleaser. Nice cherry fruit, some mineral and good use of wood. (561 views) | | | Tasted by R2-D2 on 11/3/2019 & rated 92 points: Deep ruby in color.
Pronounced, developing aromas of primary black fruit [black plum, black cherry, blackberries], minerals [wet stones, salt], floral [violets, lavendar, rose], secondary aromas of oak [smoke, vanilla, cloves, charred wood] and a touch of tertiary bottle age [wet leaves, soil, savoury].
The wine is dry, has a high acidity, medium(+) tannin, medium alcohol %, medium body and medium(+) finish. Medium(+) intensity of flavors include primary black fruit [blackberry, bramble, black cherry], herbal [rosemary, blackcurrant leaf], pungent spices [liquorice, allspice], minerals [wet stones, saline], secondary flavors of oak [charred wood, cola, cloves, smoke, toast] and tertiary bottle age [savoury, wet leaf]
The wine is outstanding and can be drunk now, but has potential to age. (676 views) | | | Tasted by chatters on 9/10/2019: Pretty black cherry fruit, smells young and dense and pretty. Slightly more savoury and tight on the palate, fruit a little muted. Time? (767 views) | | | Tasted by Collector1855 on 12/24/2018 & rated 93 points: Discrete but aromatic nose of red fruit, violets, vanilla, toast. A very elegant and subtle palate, persistent, aromatic finish. An elegant Pinot with good aging potential. (1368 views) |
| Fromm Producer Website2016 Fromm Pinot Noir Cuvée HPINOT PROFILE
Vineyard
A thoughtful composite of our completed single vineyard Pinot Noirs.
Soil
The majority of the vineyards are clay based soils in the southern valleys. At our home grown FROMM vineyard, the soil is predominantly alluvial gravel and silt.
Winemaking
14 – 16 months in 228L traditional Burgundian barrels (around 10% new). Volume: 16 barrels.
An elegant and mindful blend of FROMM's single vineyard wines, the FROMM Pinot Noir Cuvée 'H' expresses a winery signature that honours Hätsch's understanding and knowledge of Marlborough Pinot Noir. Since 1992, Hätsch Kalberer has carefully crafted FROMM Pinot Noir to express the variety's finer details; understated intensity, elegance and finesse, all of which are truly reflected in our FROMM Pinot Noir Cuvee 'H' 2016.
"This wine has a beguiling prettiness with underpinning depth and complexity. The palate shows good fruit weight, ripe flavours and an effortless structure. The wine’s tannins are well layered and are complimented by balanced acidity and subtle well integrated oak, all driving the wine through to a long, mouth-watering finish." Pinot Noir Varietal character (Appellation America) | Varietal article (Wikipedia)
Pinot Noir is the Noble red grape of Burgundy, capable of ripening in a cooler climate, which Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot will not reliably do. It is unpredictable and difficult both to grow and to vinify, but results in some of the finest reds in the world. It is believed to have been selected from wild vines two thousand years ago. It is also used in the production of champagne. In fact, more Pinot Noir goes into Champagne than is used in all of the Cote d'Or! It is also grown in Alsace, Jura, Germany, the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Romania, Switzerland, Austria, Croatia, Serbia, Italy, and so forth, with varying degrees of success.
Pinot Noir is one of the world's most prestigious grapes. It is very difficult to grow and thrives well in France, especially in Champagne and Burgundy. Pinot Noir thrives less in hot areas, is picky on soil, and deserves some oak storage.
Pinot Noir, or Blauburgunder / Spätburgunder in German, is a blue grapevine - and, as the German name suggests, the grape comes originally from Burgundy in France.
The grape, which thrives in calcareous soils, is used primarily for the production of red wine, and it is widely regarded as producing some of the best wines in the world. The wine style is often medium-bodied with high fruit acidity and soft tannins. It can be quite peculiar in fragrance and taste, and not least in structure - which may be why it is referred to as "The Grapes Ballerina".
Pinot Noir is also an important ingredient in sparkling wines, not least in champagne since it is fruity, has good acidity and contains relatively little tannins.
The grape is considered quite demanding to grow. The class itself consists of tightly packed grapes, which makes it more sensitive to rot and other diseases.
Pinot Noir changes quite easily and is genetically unstable. It buds and matures early which results in it often being well ripened. Climate is important for this type of grape. It likes best in cool climates - in warm climates the wines can be relaxed and slightly pickled.
In cooler climates, the wine can get a hint of cabbage and wet leaves, while in slightly warmer regions we often find notes of red berries (cherries, strawberries, raspberries, currants), roses and slightly green notes when the wine is young. With age, more complex aromas of forest floor, fungi and meat emerge.
In Germany, Switzerland, Austria and Hungary, it often produces light wines with less character. However, it has produced very good results in California, Oregon and New Zealand.
With its soft tannins and delicate aroma, it is excellent for white fish, chicken and light meat. For the stored wines you can serve small game. Classic duck breast is a matter of course, a Boeuf Burgundy and Pinot Noir are pure happiness.
Pinot Noir loses quality by over-harvesting.
Pinot Noir is prone to diseases, especially rot and mildew. Viruses cause major problems especially in Burgundy.
Pinot Noir are large round grapes with thin skins. Relatively high in alcohol content. Medium rich tannins and good with acid.
As a young person, Pinot Noir has a distinctly fruity character such as raspberries, cherries and strawberries.
A mature Pinot Noir, the taste is different. Cherry goes into plum and prune flavors. It smells of rotten leaves, coffee, moist forest floor and animal wine. This must be experienced.
In warm climates you find boiled plum, some rustic, little acid.
If the grapes are over-grown, the wine will be thin, with little color and flavor.New Zealand New Zealand Wine (New Zealand Winegrowers)South Island Noeth Island (wine-pages.com)Marlborough Gisborne (New Zealand Wine)Marlborough .co.nz/home.htm Gisborne |
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