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| Community Tasting Notes (average 91.4 pts. and median of 92 pts. in 78 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by broadband013 on 4/8/2024 & rated 92 points: Topissime!
À son apogée je pense, vraiment magnifique! (135 views) | | | Tasted by sfwinelover1 on 2/10/2024: Second of 2 (first: 5/21, 92). When I drank the first, I noted that it was early in its drinking window, and this bottle justified that call. While that one was quite nice, it skewed a bit cloying, but that’s been subsumed by forest floor, incense, funk, black tea, bitter chocolate and fig, among other notes, making for a more interesting, complex and rustic and less sweet wine. Particularly nice with a grilled pork chop and veggies one night, Indian food the next. Mid+ window now, with probably a few more good years in top form (taking in my window by 2 years). While this bottling doesn’t rank, for me, with my fave base CdPs, Close des Papes, Pegau and Beaucastel, more or less in that order, it’s reliably VG and compelling qpr. 93+ if scoring (616 views) | | | Tasted by M DU VIN on 6/10/2023 & rated 93 points: Wish and unctuous with great fruit. (1349 views) | | | Tasted by vinolovers on 9/24/2022 & rated 93 points: Opened with a dark coloring and an incredible nose of blackberries. The wine opened and the fruit notes faded a bit, letting the chocolate, kirsch and pepper appear. Incredibly smooth and well structured. (1723 views) | | | Tasted by sfwinelover1 on 5/28/2021 & rated 92 points: Unplanned CdP taste off in Noe Valley. In honor of my sis, the Francophile, and a delicious rack of lamb, I opened this Pegau (about $85 at last fall's private party purchase), joined, unexpectedly, per the below, with a 2005 Sabon Prestige (about $45 in the same buy). We did pretty much of a PnP with the Pegau, which came out of the bottle almost tawny, on the nose and palate with lots of garrigue, floral notes, cherry/kirsch and mixed dried spice; to jump forward a bit, though, the wine was wan, not just in color, but all of the elements, including the structure, tasted a bit washed out, as if this bottle had probably peaked 3-5 years ago, and in fact, my sis poured the remainder of her first glass down the sink when I opened the Sabon. The Sabon came out of the bottle exactly the opposite, with extraordinarily vibrant cherry, olives, smoked meats, and a tangy citric finish, but marred on the nose and palate with a somewhat boozy, port-y note.
The skinny on the Pegau: tawny color which darkened--sounds crazy, but true--to a deep garnet, light bodied, subject to the below, medium legs. Light to moderate and well-integrated tannins, no heat. Per the changes below, light to medium complexity, light persistence and intensity.
The Sabon: Dark garnet with a purplish brown tint, medium to full bodied, thick legs. Very good persistence and intensity, medium complexity.
Ok, so here's where this gets interesting: as I mentioned, the Pegau came out what I can only call weak, and my sis was prepared to pour this bottle down the drain (my initial score, 88, hers 85), then we set it aside and opened, and had a glass of the Sabon. After the glass of the Sabon, which I'll come back to, and about an hour and a half had passed, we decided to double check on the Pegau before we did something rash, and with God as my witness, this 21 year old bottle came alive, darkening, becoming far more full-bodied and darker and developing the usual profound Pegau secondary and tertiary notes of tobacco, cedar, funk (although light for a Pegau, IMO) and an overall saline and savory feel. Not nearly as elegant as the '98 and with less apparent acidity than that bottling, this nonetheless checked all the boxes on fruit, structure, secondary notes and elegance and balance, even if with a lot less power than the '09, which I've had several times. Fabulous complement to the rack of lamb. Has continued to improve on night 2. 92 at end of night 1 to me, 93 on night 2, 91-92 for my sis at the end of night 1, 93 on night 2. So, to summarize, I'd actually be sure to give this a lot of air, subject to the usual caveats of bottle variation (which, IMO, become more pronounced in older wines, especially non-American ones) and how your bottle has been stored. With that said, it's drinking really well now, and with bottle variation and age, I concur with my CT friend Walker JFW that the likelihood of variation in this wine is more to the downside than up going forward, so I'd drink sooner than later.
The Sabon also developed, if a bit more predictably. The boozy notes integrated well, but make no mistake; my sis categorized this wine has a very New World, even as an aught era CdP in a hot year, with more of a sweet than savory feel. Tasting notes remained relatively consistent, but just as the Pegau became more assertive, this wine mellowed, even if it's not my, nor I suspect many others', idea of mellow. Still, this remains incredibly youthful, far closer, I think, toward the start than the end of its drinking window, and does have potential to improve a point, maybe 2, with powerful tannins and a lovely, if underlying, acidity which should stand it in good stead for years to come. If you're drinking now, at least for my taste, I'd give it not less than an hour and a half of air. I didn't drink it with the lamb, but it had enough acidity and savoriness to work surprisingly well with a seafood risotto. 88-89 on opening, 92 at the end of night one and the same on night 2. Even with the relative convergence on night 2, these 2 wines did a good job of showing the diversity of CdPs, and while I wouldn't have done the side-by-side had I known how the Pegau was going to develop, I'm glad we did.
NB: For a variety of reasons (my slow drinking at this point and a couple of invitations for dinners out at friends'), it took 5 days to polish this off, and this stayed at a solid 92 during the period. reiterate early drinking window with possibility for improvement. (2744 views) | | | Tasted by H2OMansLibrary on 12/17/2020: Drinking well. Can go longer. Good balance and body with a long finish. (2939 views) | | | Tasted by Papa Eo on 11/17/2020 & rated 93 points: Remarkably easy-drinking. Beautiful wine. (2199 views) | | | Tasted by Mossrose on 8/10/2020 & rated 93 points: Even after being opened for three days, this wine continues to be stunning! Kirsch and garrigue, good tannins, smooth and delicious. Nothing old about this wine at all. (2414 views) | | | Tasted by hsacks on 5/9/2020 flawed bottle: Corked (2120 views) | | | Tasted by mpdonnel on 4/13/2020 & rated 91 points: In a good place. Typical CdP red fruits and garrigue. Palate very smooth, if a bit thin. (1820 views) | | | Tasted by BBinSC on 10/5/2019 & rated 92 points: 92-93: amazingly fresh - it's been 8 years since I had this wine. I would have never guessed it was 14 years old. Loads of red fruit and garrigue, it's very rich and smooth, just smashing on its own or with food. Loved it. (2028 views) | | | Tasted by hsacks on 6/21/2019 & rated 93 points: Happily, this bottle was similar to the 10/29/18 bottle. (1805 views) | | | Tasted by PetePullen on 4/14/2019 & rated 93 points: Very nice floral, chocolate and dark fruit aromas. No funk or barnyard. Very smooth, silky tannins. Dark fruits, cocoa, garrigue/mineral, spice and licorice in the long-lasting flavors. Drinking very well right now. (1848 views) | | | Tasted by Margaux Bro on 2/15/2019 & rated 93 points: Had alongside an 08 Casanova di Neri BdM. Both were excellent, but the BdM slightly edged this out. This didn’t need too long of a decant and it was definitely mellowed out and firmly in its drinking window. I’d say drink within the next 4 years. (1894 views) | | | Tasted by Nutty08 on 11/8/2018 & rated 93 points: Much better than my last bottle, no significant VA or heat. Deep rich fruit flavors, still fruit forward but fresh, with a little spice in the background. Fine tannins on the finish with a little sandal wood. Some mature notes, though the fruit is still youthful. (2144 views) | | | Tasted by hsacks on 10/29/2018 & rated 93 points: This bottle was fresher than the prior two bottles and was thicker and longer on the palate. (1623 views) | | | Tasted by hsacks on 4/21/2018 & rated 92 points: Similar to the 9/18/14 bottle. (2250 views) | | | Tasted by Miamidivorcelawyer on 7/5/2017 & rated 89 points: A fine expression of ripe and ready to drink CNP. lots of dark stewed fruit and a sold structure, finish had loads of wild flowers and rich spice. - not an over the top style but clearly refined and drinking well now. (3288 views) | | | Tasted by Nutty08 on 8/26/2016 & rated 89 points: Disappointing given how good the '06 was this year. Quite dark in color for CDP. Nose was sullen initially, but with some coaxing gave off Christmas spice and dried dark fruit. Palate was prickly (carbonic?) with iron, blood, and spice notes. Fruit seemed a big monolithic and lazy, but tightened up with air adding a bit of energy. Moderate finish with sandalwood, spice, and maybe a hint of chocolate. Didn't have the expected polish and poise and came across as a slightly disjointed wine that was trying to be powerful. It did improve with air with is reassuring--could be in an awkward phase or could be trying too hard. Time will tell. (4213 views) | | | Tasted by PetePullen on 8/21/2016 & rated 94 points: Closed at first, but then decanted. Over next 15 minutes, developed amazing floral, chocolate and dark fruit aromas. No funk or barnyard. Very smooth, silky tannins. Dark fruits, cocoa, garrigue/mineral, spice and licorice in the long-lasting flavors. Drinking very well right now. (A 50+ year French chef/restaurant owner-friend at our private dinner said it was one of the best CDP's they had had in while. I'm glad I have 3 more.) (4043 views) | | | Tasted by broadband013 on 2/4/2016 & rated 91 points: vraiment très agréable, probablement a son apogée, longueur correcte, pas trop doux, assez typique sans être trop puissant et en restant assez élégant. (4863 views) | | | Tasted by Bureso on 12/20/2015 & rated 90 points: En vin med "smæk for skillingen". Hed og pebret, røde frugter går lige i næsen. Bløde, silkeagtig, moden, frisk smag bekræfter duften. Vinen blev fremstillet af en blanding af 80% Grenache, 10% Syrah og 10% Mourvedre. (4145 views) | | | Tasted by Enfant sauvage on 10/7/2015: Decided to open this sooner rather than later and for a largish group of philistines based on recent mediocre reviews here. Decanted for 2 hours, and I stuck to my Puffeney and didn't get to this until there was only one small glass left. To my surprise, I found it to be excellent. Sweet/ripe? Yes. But also complex, clean, not overly heavy. Lovely red fruit, a bit of spice and herbs. Overall, a very pleasant wine that I wish I'd drunk more of instead of leaving it to the folks who brought over the Chloe pinot noir... I don't regret the Puffeney for a second, but I was led astray (just a bit) by CT for once. Gah. (4027 views) | | | Tasted by geneswine on 9/15/2015 & rated 89 points: Showing age, a slight oxidized taste that did not go away as it warmed from cellar temp as many wines seem to. It's time to drink this these 2005's. (2973 views) | | | Tasted by rocknroller on 7/19/2015 & rated 90 points: Best Burger Event, Monthly Tasting Group (Jason and Tracy's, Mpls, MN): I thought the nose was excellent on popping, slow-O for 2 hours and then splashed before travel. The palate was better initially and seems just too much now. Not really where I'd like this to be. Showing too much wood still and too much spiciness. Good nose, The fruit is there and potential, dark and dark red, with some earth and minerality ,charcoal, pepper, very spicy but just not the nuance that one hopes for. needs more time. A bit much right now. Give this 2-3 year at least. (3854 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
| By Josh Raynolds
Vinous, January/February 2007, IWC Issue #130
(Domaine Roger Sabon Chateauneuf du Pape Cuvee Prestige) Subscribe to see review text. |
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| Roger Sabon Producer website - Read more about Roger Sabon
The Sabon family has a long history in Chateauneuf du Pape. Quote from the homepage of the domain: "One of the oldest documented landholders in Chateauneuf du Pape, the Sabon family has controlled vineyards in the zone since 1540".
Roger Sabon is the father of the three brothers who run the domain today Jean-Jacques, Denis and Gilbert Sabon.
The vinification is since 2001 in the care of Didier Négron, son-in-law of Jean- Jacques Sabon.
Denis and his son Julien take care of the fields. Delphine, daughter of Denis is often in the reception.
Today the property has 15 ha. in AOC Chateauneuf du Pape and owns 17 ha. of vineyards in Roquemaure from where Lirac and Cotes du Rhone are made.
Red Rhone Blend Read about the different grapes used to produce red and white Rhone wines
On CellarTracker, Red Rhone Blend is the term for a wine consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.
A 'food' wine. Lacking pretension and intended for local consumption with local cuisine. Lacks the 'high' notes on a Bordeaux, more earthy and sharper so often a better partner to meat dishes with a sauce. Cuvée PrestigeA blend of different parcels. France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comRhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)
### Wine Scholar Guild's Rhône valley vintage charts & ratings ###Southern Rhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Southern Rhone Valley
Châteauneuf-du-Pape Châteauneuf-du-Pape Appellation - Read more about Chateauneuf du Pape
Another site on this appellation
Vineyards on weinlagen-info
"As I have written many times in the past, the sweet spot for drinking Châteauneuf du Papes is usually the first 5-6 years after the vintage. Then they seem to go through an adolescent, awkward, and sometimes dormant stage, only to re-emerge around year 10-12, where the majority of wines are often fully mature. The best of them will continue to hold on to life (but rarely improving) beyond 15-20 years. It is only the exceptional Châteauneuf du Papes that will evolve for 20-25+ years, and those are indeed a rarity. However, things may be improving dramatically in terms of the longevity of Châteauneuf du Pape, although Grenache-dominated wines, the vast majority of wines produced in the appellation, are wines that do not have the polyphenol (extract and tannin) content of top Cabernet Sauvignons, Merlots, or Syrah-based wines. Nevertheless, the younger generation in Châteauneuf du Pape has taken seriously the farming in the vineyards. There are more organic and biodynamically run vineyards here than in any other appellation of France. The yields, which were already low, are even lower today (20-35 hectoliters per hectare), and of course, the proliferation of top luxury and/or old-vine cuvées gives a significant boost to the number of wines that will evolve past 25 or 30 years. The advantage of these wines is their broad window of drinkability." - Robert Parker
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