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 Vintage2005 Label 1 of 5 
TypeWhite - Off-dry
ProducerZilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) (web)
VarietyRiesling
DesignationAuslese Lange Goldkapsel #5
VineyardSaarburger Rausch
CountryGermany
RegionMosel Saar Ruwer
SubRegionn/a
Appellationn/a

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Community Tasting Notes (average 95.7 pts. and median of 96 pts. in 4 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by lepetitchateau on 3/11/2023 & rated 96 points: From half bottle, this presented amber in color, clean with a healthy amount of tartaric acid. It is unctuous and sweet, with complex and classic flavors and exotic spices. While there is weight, it has soaring power and depth - yet if I had to find any faults it would be that it lacks a bit of finesse, just a touch heavy-handed. A delicious wine! (475 views)
 Tasted by Richard P Howden on 12/27/2018 & rated 94 points: One of the better ausleses I’ve had. Beautiful fresh nose of honey and citrus. Palate rich soft and well balanced with an acid-leading freshness. Flavors of pineapple, tangerine, honey, and very long. Delicious. The sharpness of the acid has toned down but the fruit is strong. Certainly sweet but in no way cloying. (1261 views)
 Tasted by sweetstuff on 1/13/2013: SHORT-FORM TASTING NOTE

AP 3 561 083 5 00. 7.5 pabv; $60/375 ml after buyer premium; WineBid.com. Imported by Rudi Weist Cellars International, San Marcos, CA. Cork-finished. Rich, gold-green; thick in texture; harmoniously delicate nose; shy and self-contained aromas; pungent sawn-pine and mountain strawbgerry.

Aromas are of early-flush estate Darjeeling tea; painful razor-edge acidic and cutting sharpness; needs more integration to reach a higher score, which undoubtedly will occur with proper cellar-aging. When tasted, the primary note is again of fine estate tea, with an orange and mountain strawberry flavor of great clarity, length, and optical-laser precision. Needs more integration at sides of tongue and at midpalate to gain that lasst point or so. F

A wine with which Barbara and I celebrated our fifth wedding anniversary, a truly golden era for both of us, and worth a stunning bottle. Shared at Hawthorne Suites in Cincinnati.

Color is rich, polished, adamantine gold over medium green tea. A thick, unbroken coating of extract. harmoniously delicate nose, like a Haydn quartet. It is a wine that for now is contained within itself, waiting to be coaxed from its shyness, but the shyness seems something of a game. There is a sawn-pine pungency waiting in the background to spring to life, and hints of mountain strawberry.

The opening palate impression is of first-flush Darjeeling tea of the highest quality. The acid and sugar are bound up in a razor-edge that at first is painful to taste. The primary note is again of a fine tea, with an orange and strawberry flavor of great clarity, length, and with the precision of an optical laser. The only thing holding this wine back from a higher score is a need for it to integrate a bit more in the mid-palate or to the sides of the tongue; after some time it may be worth another point. Barbara, who is fascinated with the way these wines change over time, will be following this with me over the next several days, too. Given more air and a few days, , the botrytis becomes more evident and 'thicker;' pure nectarine-juice impressions, flashes of coumarin and curing hay; somewhat vanilla-like Eventually less punch but without the tongue-dissecting acidity.. 97-98/100. Drink 2012-2013; then hold untill 2018 through 2050. (4022 views)
 Tasted by sweetstuff on 10/8/2010 & rated 97 points: nb: FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE WHO NEED A BRIEFER NOTE AND A TERSER IMPRESSION, A SHORT-FORM NOTE WILL FROM NOW ON BE PREPENDED IF POSSIBLE FOR THESE RATHER VERBIOSE NOTES OF GREAT LENGTH. tHIS IS OF COURSE NOT A BLOG AND EVENTUALLY i HOPE TO SEPARATE THE tns FROM THE blogging.

AP 3 561 083 5 00. 7.5 pabv; $60/375 ml after buyer premium; WineBid.com. Imported by Rudi Weist Cellars International, San Marcos, CA.

A wine with which Barbara and I celebrated our fifth wedding anniversary, a truly golden era for both of us, and worth a stunning bottle. Shared at Hawthorne Suites in Cincinnati.

Color is rich, polished, adamantine gold over medium green tea. A thick, unbroken coating of extract. harmoniously delicate nose, like a Haydn quartet. It is a wine that for now is contained within itself, waiting to be coaxed from its shyness, but the shyness seems something of a game. There is a sawn-pine pungency waiting in the background to spring to life, and hints of mountain strawberry.

The opening palate impression is of first-flush Darjeeling tea of the highest quality. The acid and sugar are bound up in a razor-edge that at first is painful to taste. The primary note is again of a fine tea, with an orange and strawberry flavor of great clarity, length, and with the precision of an optical laser. The only thing holding this wine back from a higher score is a need for it to integrate a bit more in the mid-palate or to the sides of the tongue; after some time it may be worth another point. Barbara, who is fascinated with the way these wines change over time, will be following this with me over the next several days, too.

A third-day relook (refrigerated, but not decanted) shows fruit that's more tea-driven and more evident botrytis of the 'thick' variety; there's still a great deal of purity to the nectarine-juice impressions, but there are neat flashes of curing hay, a somewhat vanilla-like component there as well, called coumarin. All in all much more pleasant to drink than it was on the eighth,wwith less punch but without the painful tongue-dissecting act of before, out of the same bottle. I'm thankful to have had an opportunity to spend some extended time with this bottle (and with the one in whose honor it was poured, my delightful and intelligent wife Barbara.) Give this one another 3-5 years to smooth the edges, and drink from 2015 to 2050 and perhaps longer. No hurry at all, and a superb candidate for prolonged aging. For those of you who know your cellaring, 2018 to 2020 will start to show some tertiary fireworks. So drink circa 2013; then forgeddaboudit till 2018. A truly superb bottle in the making. 97/100.

We brought along a caramel apple from Winans in Dayton to nibble and a better match could not be imagined.

David Schildknecht claims that this is an auction lot, but it was not so designated by a VDP Versteigerungs circle on the bottle. There must have been a change in plans, because of recent years the three Auction ausleses have been numbered AP 03, 02, and 01 for the White Capsule Auction Auslese, the Goldkap Auction Auslese, and the Long Gold Cap Auction Auslese.

This is in any sane world a Trockenbeerenauslese, one of the greatest Zilliken Auslesen, or any Zilliken wine, for that matter, that I've ever had the pleasure to taste. How Hanno Z. is able to make such a powerful wine so invitingly drinkable is part of the secret of his art, which may not be something he can pass on to the next generation--but we hope so.

(97 pts.) (5375 views)

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By Joel B. Payne
Vinous, January/February 2007, IWC Issue #130
(Forstmeister Geltz-Zilliken Saarburger Rausch Riesling Auslese Long Gold Capsule #5) Subscribe to see review text.
By John Gilman
View From the Cellar, Sep/Oct 2006, Issue #5, The 2006 German Wine Auctions: First Look at the 2005 Special Bottlings
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2005 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburger Rausch Riesling Auslese Lange Goldkapsel #5

The AP 5 was erroneously identified as the Auction LGKA by David Schilddkneht in the Advocate.

Riesling

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#2014 Vintage Notes:
2014 Vintage Report by Terry Theise
2014 Vintage Report by Wine Spectator
"My gut still tells me the Saar (and to some extent) the Ruwer are better overall in 2014 than the more storied areas of the Mosel proper, but those that spent the requisite time living in their middle-Mosel vineyards made some of the most electric and "feathery" Riesling in a long time (maybe the finest in 20 years - yes, it's true!)" - Jon Rimmerman (Of course only a very short historical memory would call the Saar and Ruwer less 'storied' than the middle Mosel - jht)

Mosel Saar Ruwer

Starting in 2007 the German wine authorities have changed labeling laws to rename all of the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wines to just "Mosel." This puts this and other database driven sites in a difficult spot, as millions of old wine label reflect the former labeling. As described here, CellarTracker has elected to remain with the old labeling for a number of years to avoid confusion. At some point we will switch over to just "Mosel" but not for a few years at least.
Mosel WeinKulturland (Moselwein e.V.)

Detailed geographical information at weinlagen.info

#2018 Vintage Notes:
"Acid levels are relatively low throughout Riesling-growing Europe (acidification will once again be permitted in Germany – no surprise, as that’s been the case in eight of the last 10 vintages); but because malic acid was baked off or degraded by relentlessly balmy weather means, what acid remains is overwhelmingly of the efficacious tartaric sort. Extract levels are low, as one would anticipate from a growing season during which relatively little moisture was coursing through the vine’s roots and shoots. [...] Everyone is astonished how there could have been so much juice despite the drought." - David Schildknecht
"2018 is a homogenous vintage with a very high general level, below which it seldom falls [...] It leads with blossom. It is perhaps 80% delicious and 20% fascinating." - Terry Theise

#2017 Vintage Notes:
"not so friendly towards light wines" - Milkmansteve

#2016 Vintage Notes: "Overall, 2016 is a charmer of a vintage with much immediate ripe and fruity appeal, not unlike 2011 (in fresher) or 2007 (in lighter). However, 2016 is far from being homogeneous, in fact it is composed of a mosaic of vintages, a result of the freakish growing conditions. Hidden inside the vintage, there are true gems with the balance of 1997, one of the best vintages ever, 2002 or even 2008. The bulk of the harvest was brought in with refreshingly moderate sugar levels. Overall, the Saar and Ruwer produced slightly fresher wines than the Middle Mosel but there are great differences between Estates. The good harvest conditions allowed for some Auslese, little BA and even TBA wines, but some remarkably pure and fruity Eiswein.
In general, 2016 offers the opportunity to acquire Riesling with great immediate ripe appeal: The vintage is a true charmer. At the top, 2016 is one of the most exciting and elegantly balanced vintage since the 1990s and well-worth stocking up for cellaring! In particular, we urge our readers to literally plunge onto the finest Kabinett and Spätlese: These are some of the most exciting and classic we have ever tasted. 2016 looks also set to become a major vintage for dry Riesling, provided the aromatics are not overripe. Lovers of dessert wines will find much to love in 2016 as the Auslese are pure and the Eiswein are gorgeously fruity. They should however also keep an eye open for the remaining stunning noble-sweet wines from 2015 which are still available here and there." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 36, July 2017

#2014 Vintage Notes:
"The heterogeneity of the 2014 vintage carries over onto the aging process. The top wines start to close down, as one would expect from these wines which are a remake of those from the 1990s. The wines affected by gin, saffron and mushroom flavors are still comparatively open and offer a not unattractive Scheurebe styled fruit opulence. We would opt to drink up these lesser wines except for the odd bottle and bury the little treasures of the vintage deep into the cellar." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 30, March 2016

#2013 Vintage Notes:
"The fruity-styled 2013 wines have firmed up significantly since last year and start to show signs of closing down, making the underlying acidity seemingly sharp and out of balance. The better dry wines have come out of their early armor of smoke and tannin but the acidity may prove quite challenging. Quite frankly, except for some smaller bottlings, this is a vintage to lay down and wait." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2012 Vintage Notes:
"The 2012 wines have put on some flesh and go through a 'fattier' phase which is not unlike what the 2007 went through at the same period. However, the zestier acidity cuts through this 'weight' and makes the wines thoroughly enjoyable at this early stage. In particular the fruity Kabinett and Spatlese as well as the off-dry and dry wines offer much pleasure. We expect these wines to close down over the coming year or two. Enjoy while it lasts!" - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2011 Vintage Notes:
"A bit to our surprise, the 2011 wines have shut down and go through a quite difficult and muted phase now. Their low acidity combined with their maturity makes them feel rich, opulent and often bulky, and thus not really enjoyable. We expect that these will need at least a decade to integrate their sweetness and gain in harmony. The only exception is the dry wines, whose low acidity makes for great food companionship." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2010 Vintage Notes:
"After a mellower period in 2012, many 2010 wines have firmed up and developed a stronger smoky side. However, most continue to shine through their fruit opulence, structure and deliciously zesty but ripe acidity. This suits in particular the off-dry bottlings, which have more charm than the legally dry wines. Will these wines close down? Actually, the softening acidity makes us wonder now but it also provides further evidence that these wines will turn out harmonious after all." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2009 Vintage Notes:
"Most 2009 wines have closed down, which accentuates their round and soft side forward. Many can still be quite enjoyable but the times of primary fruit with its attractive aromatic expression and a generous acidic kick are now over. Except for the dry wines, we would definitely recommend keeping your hands off any bottle in your cellar and possibly buying more wines from this vintage on the market as these are true gems in the making." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

 
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