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| Community Tasting Notes (average 90.1 pts. and median of 90 pts. in 26 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by Cailles on 10/2/2023 & rated 85 points: 20 Vintages of La Conseillante (1947-2020): All wines tasted blind. I have had many beautiful Conseillantes in the past, but in this tasting the wines did not shine as expected. A few thoughts: A) Conseillante is a seductive, sensual wine, not unlike more Bordeaux-esque Napa Valley wines. In fact, it reminded me a lot of Opus One, with the blue and black forest berry aromas found in almost every vintage. B) The fruit is ripe, but never too ripe. But only in the cooler years (and 2020) is the fruit perfectly pure and fresh. C) Even in the newer vintages, the (luxurious) oak notes are still present and will need some time to be fully absorbed. D) My biggest problem (and the group had the same one) was that almost all of the newer vintages showed alcohol notes that weren't noticeable en primeur or in the Arrivage tastings (and the wines were served at a perfect temperature or rather a little too cold). E) There were some beautiful wines, complex and seductive, but La Conseillante is not a wine for classic Bordeaux or Left Bank lovers. Conseillante is the hot one-night stand, not the elegant and intellectually appealing wine I want to drink every day. F) The best wine was the 2020 (96pts, the only score above 95pts), confirming my impression that it is a better, less ripe Bordeaux vintage than 2019.
TN: Uninteresting, unbalanced with some harsh tannins and a not well integrated acidity. Underneath there was some fresh fruit and some minerality but this was not good. (1047 views) | | | Tasted by sirpat00 on 10/2/2023 & rated 93 points: 20-vintage La Conseillante vertical (Fribourg): Part of a 20 vintage vertical (key takeaways in the tasting story). Nice and delicate profile of light red berries such as raspberry and cherry, a bit of smoke and leather. A mineral layer adds complexity along with dried herbs. Light and vibrant palate with fresh red berry fruit and a structure that is built more on acidity than on the finely grained tannin. (799 views) | | | Tasted by Collector1855 on 9/29/2023 & rated 87 points: Chateau La Conseillante 1947-2020 tasted blind: This felt like it was at the end of the drinking window. Very sinewy with the fruit mostly gone and mainly tannins and acidity left. (1190 views) | | | Tasted by Claret & CdP Gang on 2/18/2022 & rated 92 points: Medium red & bricking, lovely mature nose, inky nose, elegant & soft on the palate, mellow Bordeaux, at its peak (1459 views) | | | Tasted by Claret & CdP Gang on 12/28/2021 & rated 93 points: Beautiful mature Bordeaux nose, light on the palate but that’s 93, very good pairing with roast beef, really enjoyable Bordeaux that’s wasn’t pretentious & truly comfortable as it is (1446 views) | | | Tasted by Cailles on 9/19/2021 & rated 88 points: 12 Vintages of L’Eglise-Clinet vs La Conseillante (1993-2015): Enlightening head to head of two Pomerol heavyweights. All wines tasted single blind, not decanted. A few observations: 1) La Conseillante (LC) is the winner with 7 vs 5 wins, a higher average score (92.1 pts vs 90.8 pts) and a much better consistency over the years. 2) The LC showed more harmonious and inviting, less extracted and with a good ripeness as well as a seductive creaminess. 3) L’Eglise-Clinet (EC) only started to get good to great in the past 10 to 15 years. Most older wines showed too ripe, too extracted and often with a drying finish. 4) Not surprisingly, the best vintages got the highest scores (2015, 2010, 2009) with the highest scores awarded to the EC 2010 and 2015 (96 pts), LC 2015 (95 pts) as well as a quite strong LC 2003 (95 pts). 5) The race for the better Pomerol is open! Since 2015, L’EC got higher critic scores than LC as well as more perfect scores (11 vs 5; 17 critics/6 vintages) but I’m not yet sure if I like the riper and slightly bolder style of the EC (and LC is not really famous for its lightness or restraint either). But I got the feeling (or hope?) that the more recent vintages of EC will at least age much better than their older counterparts.
TN: This had a beautiful pure fruit core, some seductive coffee notes and a nice minerality on the palate but other than that, there was not much more to really enjoy. Fairly well delineated aromas. The wine is rather light, the acidity is not perfectly integrated and the finish is slightly dry. All in all, this is a fairly mediocre wine and I guess my 88 pts are rather generous.
Decanting: Not decanted, not sure if a bit more air would have helped. I doubt it.
Duel: Win for L’Eglise-Clinet rated 92 pts (2708 views) | | | Tasted by Winemaker227 on 6/5/2021 & rated 94 points: Sehr präsent, absolut frisch, Nase nach Johannisbeere, schön eingebundene Gerbstoffe, auch hier Johannisbeere, noch Zeit zum Reifen. (1433 views) | | | Tasted by korniev on 3/28/2019 & rated 94 points: I had this wine in the very beginning of my wine life about 10 years ago.
This was really good. SInce then I've had 1993 left and right banks A LOT and I can assure anyone - this is a SUPER underrated vintage. Get it if you find it and drink it. The price is good and the pleasure is through the roof (7881 views) | | | Tasted by dchain on 3/11/2017 & rated 90 points: Plummy, light garnet. Nice forest floor and soil elements. Plum and fading cherry notes. Could almost trick you into thinking this is a St. Julian! Light to mid-weight but nice elegance and balance. Needs to be drunk up but very easy to drink this. Good effort for the vintage. (14963 views) | | | Tasted by steinersing on 7/25/2015 & rated 90 points: From magnum - showing quite well for the vintage. A bit metallic towards the back, butvoverall lovely, mature aromas. (16148 views) | | | Tasted by Collector1855 on 7/24/2015 & rated 94 points: At a Commanderie de Bordeaux dinner. From Magnum. Medium garnet with brownish hue. Nose of earth, forest with every so slight animalic tones. Very soft and tame on the palate but with good acidity. I think the combo of Merlot, age and a naturally soft vintage took a little toll here. Nevertheless very pleasant to drink and long finish. Past peak (16443 views) | | | Tasted by Harley1199 on 6/12/2015: Start-up Business Lunch (Restaurante Cuenllas - Madrid): Firm Bordeaux colour any trace of brownish despite its age.
Ethanol at first transformed into humid earth. Unctuous style. Velvety and serious on the palate. Good length.
Paired a lamb leg.
De un firme color Burdeos sin trazas marrones a pesar de su edad.
Al principio etanol transformado en tierra húmeda. De estilo untuoso. Terciopelo y seria en boca. De buena longitud.
Maridó una pierna de cordero. (16587 views) | | | Tasted by fatfishzsy on 1/10/2015 & rated 88 points: 老酒略腐朽木头气息，隐约果酱菌类 (11361 views) | | | Tasted by tcn67 on 7/5/2014 & rated 89 points: Over its peak but still nice! (4097 views) | | | Tasted by VHJV on 6/9/2011 & rated 89 points: From a .375. Needed about two hours of air. At its best this was a smooth and elegant wine with a nice sauvage flavor profile. The best part didn't last too long, however, and the wine fell apart quite quickly. (5326 views) | | | Tasted by don_quichotte on 8/13/2010 & rated 91 points: Really very pretty for the vintage. Much more serious than you would normally expect Merlot to express itself. Actually reminded me of a mix of cabernet, syrah and cab franc. Very hard to call blind. (5417 views) | | | Tasted by presterjohn on 8/12/2010: Pencil shavings. Bitter dusty mouth, fresh acidity, dry tannins, sl green fruit, warm (4110 views) | | | Tasted by Fatty Cat on 3/7/2010 & rated 92 points: 0.375 L bottle, early Mar 2010: intense purple red color; roast aromas/flavors like chocolate and coffee plus plum and cherry; medium body; leathery texture; tanninic in the finish.
Great wine, still at the beginning of his preferred drinking window. (767 views) | | | Tasted by Fielding on 11/30/2009 & rated 90 points: Off vintage bargain bin special. Splash decanted. Red but browning. Nose of tobacco, burnt toast, eucalyptus, earth and cherries. Plums on the palate, with bacon fat, cigar and dark chocolate. A little bitter on the finish. (4133 views) | | | Tasted by Fatty Cat on 5/27/2009 & rated 92 points: 0.375 L bottle, late May 2009: rubin red color; intense aromas/flavors of dark fruits, chocolate and coffee; light/medium body; noble, slightly haggard texture.
Very mature 1993 La Conseillante. (689 views) | | | Tasted by Fatty Cat on 3/21/2009 & rated 92 points: 0.375 L bottle, late Mar 2009: crimson red color; intense and complex bouquet of black currant, cherry, noble wood, smoke, cigar box, coffee and chocolate; adstringent on the palate; medium body; long finish. (678 views) | | | Tasted by Old Claret on 9/13/2006: Drank w/Marilyn for Ann’s birthday. Very good! (1977 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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| Château La Conseillante Producer website - Read more about Chateau La ConseillanteRed Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)
History of Bordeaux
History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification
"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanLibournais Libournais (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux) - Read more about St. Emilion and its wines - Read more about Pomerol and its wines
Saint Emilion Grat Classified Growth, Classified Growths, Grands Crus Classes, GCC
In 1954, while the "Graves" growths had just published their own classification, the wine syndicate of Saint-Emilion, composed by wine growers, brokers and wine traders with the approval of the INAO - Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (A.O.C), decided to work on a classification for the wines of Saint Emilion. Initially, four grades were defined. These were reduced to two - First Great Classified Growth (A and B) and Great Classified Growth - in 1984.
As of Medoc's 1855 historical grading, the Saint-Emilion Great Classified Growth classification is not only based on qualitative criteria by tasting the wines on a ten years period previous to the assessment, but also on commercial considerations such as:
- sales price levels
- national and international commercial distribution
- the estate's reputation on the market
Properties who don't manage to join the club of about sixty Classified Growths are given the denomination of Great Growth ("Grand Cru"), while the remaining wineries of the A.O.C are simply reported as "Saint-Emilion". It is to be noted that the owners must officially apply to appear in the official classification. Thus for example the famous Chateau Tertre-Roteboeuf, whose quality and reputation would easily justify to be listed among the First Great Classified Growths, does not appear here by the will of its owner, François Mitjaville.
The Saint-Emilion Great Growth classification was revised in 1969, 1985, 1996 and 2006. The only two guaranteed vintage (A.O.C) who can apply to the classification are the "Saint-Emilion Grand Cru" and "Saint-Emilion" areas.
By grading 61 properties, the 2006 revision confirmed many growths from the former classification, but also caused a number of surprises and a few inevitable disappointments. Many observers thought that the impressive progression of Perse's Chateau Pavie since 1998 would be rewarded by an upgrade into the First Great Classified Growths (A) category, but finally such was not the case.
Among the estates promoted to the First Great Classified Growths B category are Chateau Troplong-Mondot and Pavie-Macquin, whose efforts made since the Nineties fully justify their new grade. It should be noted that no First Great Classified Growth was relegated to the lower Great Classified Growth class.
Promoted growths from the status of Great Growth ("Grand Cru") to Great Classified Growth ("Grand Cru Classe") are: Chateaux Bellefont-Belcier, Destieux, Fleur Cardinale, Grand Corbin, Grand Corbin-Despagne and Monbousquet.
The demoted growths from the status of Great Classified Growth to Great Growth are: Chateaux Bellevue, Cadet Bon, Faurie de Souchard, Guadet Saint-Julien, La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Belivier), La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Moueix), Lamarzelle, Petite Faurie de Soutard, Tertre Daugay, Villemaurine and Yon-Figeac. If the recent samples of some of the above mentioned properties may justify their current downgrade, there are great chances that estates like Bellevue, Tertre Daugay or Yon-Figeac will be upgraded to their previous rankings by the next revision in 2016 as the progresses noted after 2000, but not entering in the range of vintages (1993 - 2002) appointed for the criteria of selection for the 2006 classification, are noticable.
The two following estates have completely disappeared from the Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classification: Curé-Bon-la-Madeleine (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Canon) and La Clusière (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Pavie).
Finally, no estate considered as "garagiste" has integrated the classification. Valandraud, Mondotte, Le Dome, Bellevue-Mondotte or Magrez-Fombrauge have, for the least, the potential to be ranked as Great Classified Growths. In sight of the very fine quality reached by the above mentioned estates in recent vintages as well as all the innovative wine making methods used by the "garagistes", it remains to be seen whether the authorities will dare to cross the line in 2016..?Pomerol Wikipedia | French wine guide - Read about Pomerol |
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