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| Community Tasting Notes (average 95.5 pts. and median of 95 pts. in 57 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by stschutz on 4/5/2024 & rated 96 points: Absolutely gorgeous wine. Refined, impeccable balance, layered with soft textures of rounded out tannins, luscious black fruit and a long finish. Drinking this wine felt like drinking the softest, smoothest piece of finely- grained sand paper, the sands representing different smooth textures in the mouthfeel. Gidon and Heekyung were blown away by this wine tonight. Paired with grilled Korean beef and marinated pork at the steakhouse. (2649 views) | | | Tasted by Happytoro on 2/2/2024 & rated 95 points: This is beautiful and great value. It's tasting great now (although with noticeable heat) and will continue to improve. Notes cream, vanilla, cigar box, violets and floral, and fruits. Tannins are round and finish is long. (4996 views) | | | Tasted by twoheadedguy on 1/28/2024 & rated 95 points: Very ripe. Dark red fruits, garrigue, orange peel, luxardo cherry, sweet tannins, nice juicy finish. Acidity compliments fruit and prevents from being flabby. Lovely, but I imagine this will be even better in 5+ years. Hold. (4698 views) | | | Tasted by Eric Wright on 12/25/2023 & rated 93 points: Wonderful dark fruit. Very enjoyable now, but a lot of time ahead for this wine (5482 views) | | | Tasted by ESCO on 12/25/2023 & rated 93 points: Maybe it's because it's Christmas and I am feeling more like watching The Miracle on 34th Street than Diehard, feeling more like Santa than Scrooge but I really need to sing the praises of this wine . Such a long way to go and develop but already so precise , so evocative of place , this wine will become very special. The quality to price ratio is off the charts great, and although hailing from an incredibly famed and hallowed family, I can't but help consider just how much more expensive such quality would demand in say St Julien........I had it with a very simple roast lamb and honestly it was perfect. If you have these in your cellar you can treasure them with ease or drink them right now with a wonderfully clear conscience..... (4811 views) | | | Tasted by jkad on 12/16/2023 & rated 93 points: Ripe, juicy red fruit with black pepper and just enough texture and tannin. A little heat now, but still great and will continue to be as good and likely better for 5-10 years. Good wine to check in on over 10-15 year period. (5055 views) | | | Tasted by DevenStephens on 11/6/2023 & rated 97 points: One of the best CdP's I've had. Electric garnet color. Ripe red fruits on the nose, pepper, licorice. Palate has spices, garrigue, pepper, raspberries, cranberry, licorice. It's powerful and in your face. This one with a bit of age will probably be amazing but it's drinking perfectly now. Beautiful wine (5753 views) | | | Tasted by Sonoma-W on 10/4/2023 flawed bottle: So, the second bottle from the lot I purchased that was off -- seemed cooked -- caramel and oxidization. Hmm - an issue? We have 4 more left. Let's see how they are. (4112 views) | | | Tasted by JWS84 on 8/19/2023: CdP may not be very popular with the wine cognoscenti, but when I need a break from the acidity and tannins of the Nebbiolo and Sangiovese I love it’s something I find myself reaching for. And what an unbelievable bottle this was.
We had this alongside our main courses at Marcel (NY Strip au poivre for me) and it was nothing short of excellent. Packed with garrigue, spice, and baked red cherries, we couldn’t stop talking about it. This was actually the third time we’ve had 19 Clos des Papes, with the other instances being in January and December of 2022, and the consistency of our experiences has made this our go to CdP.
Lastly, I’ll add that I bought a case of this a little over a year ago for $85 a bottle. The value here can’t be overstated. (6657 views) | | | Tasted by Sonoma-W on 8/18/2023 flawed bottle: Seemed heavy with a caramel sparkling taste -- perhaps "cooked" in transit? Definitely not what we expect in this wine. (3815 views) | | | Tasted by Mfg92 on 8/6/2023 & rated 97 points: Excellent. Taste if berries. High alcohol, but smooth when drinking. (6796 views) | | | Tasted by sirpat00 on 6/24/2023 & rated 94 points: Tasted blind along with the 1999. Dense with floral notes of violets, concentrated but with a still sufficiently fresh fruit. Dense palate but with good balance, vibrant acidity, a firm structure and perfectly integrated tannin. Second time having this and consistent performance. (6539 views) | | | Tasted by Super Dave AZ on 6/6/2023 & rated 97 points: Stunning (7686 views) | | | Tasted by Sookin1 on 4/23/2023 & rated 93 points: Elegant and refined. Well blended. Black currant, blackberries. Not too spicy (7938 views) | | | Tasted by Gunakadeit on 3/25/2023 & rated 92 points: My first CDP in a while (other than some older Pegau). Well made but massive wine. Great with chicken marsala but a little overwhelming after it was finished. (7851 views) | | | Tasted by forceberry on 3/24/2023 & rated 87 points: A blend of organically farmed Grenache (65%), Mourvèdre (20%) and Syrah (10%); the remaining 5% rounded out by a combination of Cinsault, Counoise, Muscardin and Vaccarèse. The fruit gets fully destemmed before the spontaneous fermentation. Aged in old, neutral oak foudres up to 18 months, depending on the vintage. Bottled unfiltered. 15,5% alcohol, 1 g/l residual sugar and 4,9 g/l acidity.
Somewhat translucent ruby-red color with a faint, vaguely purplish hue. The nose feels bold, rich and rather alcoholic with bold aromas of ripe dark fruits, some kirsch, a little bit of juicy red plum, light earthy and herby notes of garrigue, a candied hint of sweet primary fruit and a touch of strawberry. The wine feels dense, ripe and chewy on the palate with a very full body and quite concentrated flavors of juicy dark fruits, red plums and strawberries, some earthy notes of garrigue, a little bit of roasted gamey meat, light blueberry tones, a hint of kirsch and a touch of peppery spice. For such a big and ripe wine, the wine shows relatively good sense of structure, thanks to its medium-to-moderately high acidity and balanced, moderately grippy medium-plus tannins. However, there is no denying that the wine is very hot - even at cellar temp the 15,5% shows quite a lot and the boozy heat becomes only more apparent as the wine warms up. The finish is rich, juicy and somewhat grippy with a moderately long aftertaste of youthful dark fruits, some ripe blueberries, a little bit of sweet strawberry, light earthy notes of garrigue, a hint of gamey meat and a touch of kirsch. The high alcohol becomes only more apparent as the flavors fade and the alcohol heat just lingers on your palate.
The producer has described their 2020 Pape as the "elegant" vintage and the 2019 vintage as the "powerful" vintage. Well, at least I can agree with the "power" part - this vintage is just ridiculously ripe, resulting in a very big and excessively alcoholic wine. I do admit that the wine is remarkably balanced for such a big wine - the fruit department hasn't turned pruney nor does it even feel too sweet at any point, the acidity is surprisingly high for such a big and ripe wine and the tannins are remarkably balanced: they feel ripe yet ample and grippy enough to bring good sense of firmness to the mouthfeel. I guess my biggest beef is with the ridiculous ABV - had this been clocking in at 14%, the wine would've been pretty enjoyable and rather promising, aging-wise. However, now the wine feels very alcoholic right from the first sniff, and things don't get any better as the wine sits in the glass. On the contrary, the heat from the alcohol simply grows in intensity as the drinking temperature goes up. Even if the wine is otherwise pretty enjoyable, the boozy in-your-face alcohol takes a big toll on the drinkability (and the score) here. This wine might get somewhat better with additional aging, but be warned: there's no way around how this will always be a hot alcohol monster, no matter how old it gets. Not really worth the price at 99,89€. (5791 views) | | | Tasted by tward on 2/20/2023 & rated 93 points: Excellent+
Other's TNs capture it much better than I could. I enjoyed this from Coravin over a couple of weeks and it showed its best when the remaining ~1/3 was uncorked and given air. Grenache kirsch, garrigue, wood spice, sweet turned earth, plum, raspberry. This will probably show its best in 10+ years. Upside from here.
Unsure of QPR, though I'm sure many will find $100 USD plenty fair for a wine of this stature.
15.5% abv. I never got any heat, the alcohol provides some warmth, but is full enveloped. (8303 views) | | | Tasted by Frijole on 2/17/2023: blackish burgundy, little clarity, ruby hue
Nose: black cherry, mulberry, blackberries, licorice, leather, black tea, graphite, black pepper, minerals, garrigue, smoke, hickory
Pal: black cherry, cassis, blackberries, licorice, leather, tar, black tea, mulberries, minerals, garrigue, smoke, fine tannins, hickory
Feel: medium, full
Finish: medium
T8 (could be a 9) (8077 views) | | | Tasted by cubswinws on 2/10/2023 & rated 94 points: Young and essence of Grenache. No funk or oak just a pure expression. Can’t wait to see where this goes as it has all the components to be stunning down the road. (7586 views) | | | Tasted by Rote Kappelle on 2/10/2023 & rated 96 points: Reasonable minds can differ on wine, as in many things, but I have to say that I find some of the reviews here puzzling. This is my second bottle of this wine and whilst it has settled beautifully since I last opened one in May 2022, it hasn't changed that much as to its fundamental characters.
Unsurprisingly, Jeff Leve has absolutely nailed this wine in his write up.
I am mystified by the notes that say this wine was locked up, or lacked complexity, or was all about oak. One might not like the style, or the characters of the wine - all fair enough- but let's at least get the basics right.
Unless you are drinking this during a blizzard in Alaska through a pipet tube, it is not locked up. Unless you are drinking this whilst you blow torch a new oak hogshead, licking the wine off the newly charred oak, you will know that the wine is vinified in stainless steel and then aged in big, old oak barrels - chaps, there ain't no oak! As to lacking in complexity, the note is almost its own prosecution.
Look, I have such a pedestrian palate that unless a friend of mine confirms my views I live in terrible doubt, so I don't actually want to be too tough on the reviews above; 'Let he who is without a flawed palate cast the first cork'.
You can argue about the alcohol, although at 15.5% my take is that this wine has so much power and body that it just gulps up the alcohol.
As to complexity, if you only get primary fruit, I am at a loss. There is iron, blood, a lovely accent of leaf and tobacco and definite pepper and spice. Chaps, none of that is primary fruit.
Locked up? I am writing this within an hour of opening, no decant.
I am very much a Grenache doubter and my stiffy lies north of CdP, but this is a wine that could damned near threaten all that. I also find myself thinking 'is this not just another GSM (Grenache Shiraz Mouvedre) but at about 10 times the price of the local Oz product?' The problem is that the answer is this wine is to the enjoyable, whoring GSM what a night with a syphilitic common prostitute is to a night with Josephine Beauharnais. It just isn't in the same galaxy.
The thing with this wine is that even at 15.5% ABV it is surprisingly fresh and the tannins could be a review in their own right. Forget the fruit, drink for the sublime tannins - smokey and bitter but also sweet and like Pu-erh Tea you just end up falling into them and diving deeper.
This is a huge sweating charger, all of 18 hands and if you are such a timid thing that you can't grip the pommel and swing a leg into it, then I guess you deserve to be trampled underfoot. But the beast is beautifully trained and even an average rider can see how gorgeous the coat is, how nimble is its step, despite size and bulk and thrill to feel the power of the beast as it moves. Or are you dead to sensation? (8356 views) | | | Tasted by AlyssaRock12 on 1/30/2023: Wine ranked #6 out of 12 for 2019 CdP Tasting.
Nose: Blueberry pie, violet, baking spice, pepper; great nose
Palate: full-body; high acid; violet, blueberry; primary/not complex
88 pts (7424 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 10/4/2022 & rated 98 points: It is the sublime sense of symmetry and richness on the palate, along with the sensuous texture that hit all the right notes. There is a gorgeous purity to the sweet kirsch, length, and silky tannins that make this vintage stand out. This wine should age and evolve for 2-3 decades with ease. The yields were only 22 hectoliters per hectare. The wine is a blend of 45% Grenache, 40% Mourvedre, 10% Syrah, and the remaining 5% consists of various, allowable grape varieties. The grapes are as always 100% destemmed. Drink from 2025 - 2040. (11027 views) | | | Tasted by SchlaepDog on 9/22/2022: Drank over two days. I know it is young, but wanted to taste to decide about buying another bottle. The answer is no.
First day it was almost undrinkable. Nothing but alcohol that overpowered everything else. This was after a six hour decant. Poured half into a 375 ml screw-top for the next day.
Certainly more drinkable, but that 15.5 alcohol is still apparent with any fruit taking a back-seat to the strong oak. It needs at least a decade to come together and probably two. However, that high alcohol level has me worried it will not age as well as other vintages. I will hold my other two bottles until 2030-45 to find out. (8620 views) | | | Tasted by Nutty08 on 8/15/2022 & rated 94 points: Very primary and almost grapey with loads of red fruits and Christmas cake notes. As it heated up shows a bit of heat, but really enjoyed the vibrant the acidity on the palate. Should be a solid vintage for those who like the style. (9419 views) | | | Tasted by sfwinelover1 on 8/5/2022 & rated 96 points: First of 2 ($99.99) from the big box wine store about 6 weeks ago. On the nose and palate, moderate notes (which became explosive at the 90 minute mark, per the below) of chiffon-like red raspberries, earthy minerality, camphor and lighter notes of black tea, tar and garrigue. Medium garnet darkening and purpling over time, medium+ bodied, thick legs. Vibrant acidity already surprisingly well balanced and even integrated, medium+ tannins, and the most lithe 15.5% abv you’ll ever find (CT friend LotB’s point about it being almost Faively-like duly noted). Fairly primary off the pour but with increasing, and VG+ complexity over 3 nights, VG++ persistence, VG+ intensity. Well, sometimes you gotta break your own rules, and one of mine would be, as a regular drinker of different vintages of this bottling (in the past 5 years or so, 1998-2001, 2003-2011) much before its eight birthday, and often, well thereafter. But hey, I’m on CT for a reason, and when I see people whose opinions I trust bestowing 95-100 scores on something now, something which could close up at some point, or we could end up at sword’s point with some global bad guy which could threaten my wine cellar, or, well, more fun times with the Palo Alto Spa, not to mention that I have another bottle, and was considering, based on the notes, buying more, well, my corkscrew beckoned. While it’s hard to know handle the counterfactual of how I’d feel if I saved this bottle for 5-10-20 years, it hasn’t sucked the past 3 nights. Intense and focused with dancing red raspberries leading the way out of the bottle, the olfactory hit another gear with about 90 minutes of air, smelling like the finest Parisian parfumerie in the midst of a rose garden, with more red fruits (rhubarb, red currants, red and black cherries) and orange peel being joined by anise and some rocky minerality (Close des Papes notes so familiar to those from the aughts like funk, smoked meats, heavy garrigue and figs were almost or completely absent to my palate). Its complexity may have peaked at the 3 hour mark, at which point I recorked it, but this has held well over 3 nights, even if it didn’t change much, for better or worse, after the first 2-3 hours. A magical complement to lamb chops—making up for the exhausted ‘06 of this bottling last month—this is just great as a sipping wine, for those so inclined. While fluctuation seems to be more likely up than down over the medium to longer term, how much so, and how straight that path will be falls into the who knows basket; it’s not infanticide to drink this not only delicious, but beguiling, quaff stat. While my near term purchases will more likely be measured in bottles than cases—I mean, short of this being 100+ at the moment, which, per the below, it isn’t for me—is how I roll anyway, this is pretty great stuff and right there already with my favorite Rhones. Its youth has made it unusually hard for me to grade, as I’ve flip flopped between thinking that this is currently an excellent wine with potential for possible greatness (95+) to believing that it’s a monumental wine heading for the pantheon (98). I end up somewhere in the middle, 96+, CT consensus, and looking forward to my next date, probably in 5 years (yep, health issues aside, I’m one of the more patient folks on the site). Get some. (8902 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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U.S. Importer (Addt'l Info)Red Rhone Blend Read about the different grapes used to produce red and white Rhone wines
On CellarTracker, Red Rhone Blend is the term for a wine consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.
A 'food' wine. Lacking pretension and intended for local consumption with local cuisine. Lacks the 'high' notes on a Bordeaux, more earthy and sharper so often a better partner to meat dishes with a sauce. France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comRhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)
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"As I have written many times in the past, the sweet spot for drinking Châteauneuf du Papes is usually the first 5-6 years after the vintage. Then they seem to go through an adolescent, awkward, and sometimes dormant stage, only to re-emerge around year 10-12, where the majority of wines are often fully mature. The best of them will continue to hold on to life (but rarely improving) beyond 15-20 years. It is only the exceptional Châteauneuf du Papes that will evolve for 20-25+ years, and those are indeed a rarity. However, things may be improving dramatically in terms of the longevity of Châteauneuf du Pape, although Grenache-dominated wines, the vast majority of wines produced in the appellation, are wines that do not have the polyphenol (extract and tannin) content of top Cabernet Sauvignons, Merlots, or Syrah-based wines. Nevertheless, the younger generation in Châteauneuf du Pape has taken seriously the farming in the vineyards. There are more organic and biodynamically run vineyards here than in any other appellation of France. The yields, which were already low, are even lower today (20-35 hectoliters per hectare), and of course, the proliferation of top luxury and/or old-vine cuvées gives a significant boost to the number of wines that will evolve past 25 or 30 years. The advantage of these wines is their broad window of drinkability." - Robert Parker
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