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 Vintage2009 Label 1 of 22 
TypeWhite
ProducerJoh. Jos. Christoffel Erben (web)
VarietyRiesling
DesignationKabinett
VineyardÜrziger Würzgarten
CountryGermany
RegionMosel Saar Ruwer
SubRegionn/a
Appellationn/a

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2012 and 2019 (based on 8 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See J.J. Christoffel Erben Urziger Wurzgarten Kabinett on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 89.7 pts. and median of 90 pts. in 34 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by R2-D2 on 8/16/2020 & rated 90 points: Still showing lots of creamy apples, pear, and peach fruit, medium sweetness with a medium+ acid, and long, interesting finish of petrol, slate, and honey. (507 views)
 Tasted by wculpepper on 5/28/2016 & rated 90 points: Very pale yellow. Floral nose of apple, pear and lime. Creamy apple and peach on the palate, well balanced by acids. Pleasing, lengthy finish. A bit sweeter than I would prefer, but a nice wine, nonetheless. (1538 views)
 Tasted by GalvezGuy on 4/24/2015 & rated 89 points: Consistent with previous notes (1985 views)
 Tasted by Weston3220 on 8/8/2014: Mosel Riesling yes for sure, the palate has the residual sugar of a it, nose is beautiful, wish it was bone dry for my palate as that is what I like (2532 views)
 Tasted by stevenjstein on 11/27/2013 & rated 90 points: Fairly typical Mosel Riesling. Dominated by peach flavors, with some citrus. A bit on the sweet side for a Kabinett, but nicely balanced by acidity. (2912 views)
 Tasted by Charlie Pendejo on 10/30/2013: This was nice enough with our Thai green curry, but I would've enjoyed it more with a bit more acid, a bit less sugar (yeah, this does seem more Spatlesisch), and more detail (there's some stone, but it's buried under the baby fat). Probably more interesting and satisfying in 3-4+ years. (2672 views)
 Tasted by AMC Eagle on 9/7/2013 & rated 90 points: Unscrewed and pour. Very very light straw colour in the glass with some bubbles. Getting lyches, apricots, with some green apples. Grapefruits, pears, and some minerals on the palate. The acidity hangs in there with some of the sweetness; very good finish. Could proabably benefit a couple more years. (2155 views)
 Tasted by wineshlub on 8/26/2013 & rated 89 points: Unscrewed and poured. Apple aroma with sharp citrus undertones. Sweet, interesting flavor profile with elements of apple, stone fruit, lime. Tingly mineral finish.

Sweetness/acid is just a little out of balance but I think that's due to a lack of the latter rather than too much of the former. Despite that shortcoming, this is an excellent, interesting wine. (2034 views)
 Tasted by stevenjstein on 7/28/2013: Just tried briefly. Didn't get a chance to really evaluate it enough for a rating, but I did like it. Probably a bit on the sweet side for a Kabinett, but not unreasonably so. (1266 views)
 Tasted by flea on 4/27/2013 & rated 89 points: Feels like a bit higher RS than expected for a Kab but good stone fruit and refreshing. Drinking well right now. (1293 views)
 Tasted by GalvezGuy on 4/19/2013 & rated 89 points: Unscrewed and poured. Decent nose with hints of petrol, peach, and citrus. On the palate, sweet peach and pear flavors with hints of citrus. Finishes with nice zip. Lacks precision and steeliness, but definitely a pleasant quaffer. (1195 views)
 Tasted by pifcho on 2/28/2013 & rated 89 points: Tasty! Drinking great on a pop and pour - white fruits, grapefruit and minerals on a refreshing palate. Lacking a touch of precision but no complaints - works great as a beach cocktail. (1176 views)
 Tasted by jeffal66 on 1/20/2013 & rated 91 points: Just about everything is right here. Expressive nose, pale gold color, complexity, some sugar balanced by minerality and good acidity. Lengthy finish. An outstanding value at less than 15 bucks. (1356 views)
 Tasted by btock on 12/23/2012 & rated 90 points: A good Kab, not as bright as the '07 version which I liked very much but in condition and drinking well. Golden hues, juicy. (1452 views)
 Tasted by kanjimoti on 10/11/2012 & rated 89 points: This is lovely with a complex nose of smoked apricots, pineapple & coconut, moth balls, which oddly doesn't detract from the wine, and diesel fumes. The term 'seeing something again for the first time' comes to mind each time I open a bottle of German riesling, I forget how gorgeous these wines can be. At 8 degrees alcohol, the Christoffel floods the palate with a medium body, a sugary mouthfeel nicely balanced by mouth-watering acidity, and a shortish finish. Nice wine indeed. (1414 views)
 Tasted by rocknroller on 8/2/2012 & rated 91 points: Consistent with previous note. Drinking very well. (1388 views)
 Tasted by rocknroller on 4/27/2012 & rated 91 points: Light gold color. Pop and pour. Drank 1 glass on 3 consecutive nights. Nose shows fresh flowers, sour apple, lemon, just a hint of petrol, mineral. The palate is tart, slightly sweet, apple, lemon, citrus, very light petrol, mineral. Young, primary, delicious, great QPR. Score is consistent throughout the 3 days. (1456 views)
 Tasted by chablis28 on 10/23/2011 & rated 89 points: This is really nice but a little more in spatlese territory than I might prefer. I buy Kabinett to get Kabinett. (1864 views)
 Tasted by cbuhlman on 9/5/2011: no notes, but I remember we liked this quite a bit, this is an excellent Mosel Kabinett. 93+ (1859 views)
 Tasted by Bbndk on 8/6/2011 & rated 91 points: Very nice mineral mosel white (1883 views)
 Tasted by Paul S on 7/29/2011 & rated 91 points: B&L's Housewarming - Kabinetts and Bordeaux Blends (Brad's Place): A nice wine. Not quite top-drawer when it comes to 2009 Kabinetts (you need to look to Egon Muller or Willi Schaefer for that in my book), but this clearly has good potential. From a screw-capped bottle, I opened this two days before serving, poured myself a small tasting portion and put the cap back, but it really needed at least another two days more of slow-o. At least the wine had opened up a lot though. What started out as a tightly coiled ball of grape-sugars and primary fruit had developed a very floral, almost sweetly perfumed nose, with notes of elderflower, chamomile and osmanthus, along with some ripe gooseberry and white fruit scents, a waft of meadow grass and then good dose of limestoney mineral. Attractive stuff. The palate certainly showed the ripeness of the vintage. It was rich for a Kabinett, still very primary, but this was really well-balanced with a bright, tingly acid spine running through green apple and pear notes which, like the nose, were laced with more limestoney mineral and a twist of spice. It lacked a bit of authority and conviction at the finish I thought. Still though, very nice for such a young Kabinett. It needs tons of time yet, and should improve considerably in the next 5 years or so. (2548 views)
 Tasted by Dbrane on 7/29/2011 & rated 84 points: Rather ripe and sweet. I didn't get the spiciness of this plot though. However, this is quintessentially a Mosel from the exuberant floral nose. (1912 views)
 Tasted by wineguy58 on 7/17/2011 & rated 90 points: lychee, peaches, creamy texture and good weight spritz across the tongue. Would like to see this with some age on it. (1759 views)
 Tasted by Keith Levenberg on 5/16/2011 & rated 90 points: Pretty much exactly what you expect to get. Luscious tropical fruit with spatlese-like richness enlivened by a sparkling neon energy. Sunshine and joy in a bottle. (2523 views)
 Tasted by silton on 4/17/2011: Drank 2 weeks ago with a rich pork tenderloin dish. No formal notes save to record that this was an very nice (textbook? modern textbook?) Kabinett worth buying again. Vintage @ Santana Row always has an interesting selection and generally yuppie pricing, this bottle being a better value than most of the store. (2016 views)
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By Jean Fisch and David Rayer
Mosel Fine Wines, Jul 2010, Issue No 12
(Joh. Jos. Christoffel Erben Ürziger Würzgarten Riesling Kabinett) Login and sign up and see review text.
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Joh. Jos. Christoffel Erben

Producer website

Riesling

Varietal character (Appellation America) | A short history of Riesling (Uncork) | Riesling (wikipedia)

Kabinett

Lowest must sugar content of Prädikat designation resulting in light wines, typically semi-sweet with crisp acidity.

Ürziger Würzgarten

On weinlagen-info

Germany

Wines of Germany | The Association of German Prädikat Wine Estates (VDP) | How to read a German wine label | Geographical Information Down to Single Vineyards

#2014 Vintage Notes:
2014 Vintage Report by Terry Theise
2014 Vintage Report by Wine Spectator
"My gut still tells me the Saar (and to some extent) the Ruwer are better overall in 2014 than the more storied areas of the Mosel proper, but those that spent the requisite time living in their middle-Mosel vineyards made some of the most electric and "feathery" Riesling in a long time (maybe the finest in 20 years - yes, it's true!)" - Jon Rimmerman (Of course only a very short historical memory would call the Saar and Ruwer less 'storied' than the middle Mosel - jht)

Mosel Saar Ruwer

Starting in 2007 the German wine authorities have changed labeling laws to rename all of the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wines to just "Mosel." This puts this and other database driven sites in a difficult spot, as millions of old wine label reflect the former labeling. As described here, CellarTracker has elected to remain with the old labeling for a number of years to avoid confusion. At some point we will switch over to just "Mosel" but not for a few years at least.
Mosel WeinKulturland (Moselwein e.V.)

Detailed geographical information at weinlagen.info

#2018 Vintage Notes:
"Acid levels are relatively low throughout Riesling-growing Europe (acidification will once again be permitted in Germany – no surprise, as that’s been the case in eight of the last 10 vintages); but because malic acid was baked off or degraded by relentlessly balmy weather means, what acid remains is overwhelmingly of the efficacious tartaric sort. Extract levels are low, as one would anticipate from a growing season during which relatively little moisture was coursing through the vine’s roots and shoots. [...] Everyone is astonished how there could have been so much juice despite the drought." - David Schildknecht
"2018 is a homogenous vintage with a very high general level, below which it seldom falls [...] It leads with blossom. It is perhaps 80% delicious and 20% fascinating." - Terry Theise

#2017 Vintage Notes:
"not so friendly towards light wines" - Milkmansteve

#2016 Vintage Notes: "Overall, 2016 is a charmer of a vintage with much immediate ripe and fruity appeal, not unlike 2011 (in fresher) or 2007 (in lighter). However, 2016 is far from being homogeneous, in fact it is composed of a mosaic of vintages, a result of the freakish growing conditions. Hidden inside the vintage, there are true gems with the balance of 1997, one of the best vintages ever, 2002 or even 2008. The bulk of the harvest was brought in with refreshingly moderate sugar levels. Overall, the Saar and Ruwer produced slightly fresher wines than the Middle Mosel but there are great differences between Estates. The good harvest conditions allowed for some Auslese, little BA and even TBA wines, but some remarkably pure and fruity Eiswein.
In general, 2016 offers the opportunity to acquire Riesling with great immediate ripe appeal: The vintage is a true charmer. At the top, 2016 is one of the most exciting and elegantly balanced vintage since the 1990s and well-worth stocking up for cellaring! In particular, we urge our readers to literally plunge onto the finest Kabinett and Spätlese: These are some of the most exciting and classic we have ever tasted. 2016 looks also set to become a major vintage for dry Riesling, provided the aromatics are not overripe. Lovers of dessert wines will find much to love in 2016 as the Auslese are pure and the Eiswein are gorgeously fruity. They should however also keep an eye open for the remaining stunning noble-sweet wines from 2015 which are still available here and there." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 36, July 2017

#2014 Vintage Notes:
"The heterogeneity of the 2014 vintage carries over onto the aging process. The top wines start to close down, as one would expect from these wines which are a remake of those from the 1990s. The wines affected by gin, saffron and mushroom flavors are still comparatively open and offer a not unattractive Scheurebe styled fruit opulence. We would opt to drink up these lesser wines except for the odd bottle and bury the little treasures of the vintage deep into the cellar." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 30, March 2016

#2013 Vintage Notes:
"The fruity-styled 2013 wines have firmed up significantly since last year and start to show signs of closing down, making the underlying acidity seemingly sharp and out of balance. The better dry wines have come out of their early armor of smoke and tannin but the acidity may prove quite challenging. Quite frankly, except for some smaller bottlings, this is a vintage to lay down and wait." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2012 Vintage Notes:
"The 2012 wines have put on some flesh and go through a 'fattier' phase which is not unlike what the 2007 went through at the same period. However, the zestier acidity cuts through this 'weight' and makes the wines thoroughly enjoyable at this early stage. In particular the fruity Kabinett and Spatlese as well as the off-dry and dry wines offer much pleasure. We expect these wines to close down over the coming year or two. Enjoy while it lasts!" - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2011 Vintage Notes:
"A bit to our surprise, the 2011 wines have shut down and go through a quite difficult and muted phase now. Their low acidity combined with their maturity makes them feel rich, opulent and often bulky, and thus not really enjoyable. We expect that these will need at least a decade to integrate their sweetness and gain in harmony. The only exception is the dry wines, whose low acidity makes for great food companionship." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2010 Vintage Notes:
"After a mellower period in 2012, many 2010 wines have firmed up and developed a stronger smoky side. However, most continue to shine through their fruit opulence, structure and deliciously zesty but ripe acidity. This suits in particular the off-dry bottlings, which have more charm than the legally dry wines. Will these wines close down? Actually, the softening acidity makes us wonder now but it also provides further evidence that these wines will turn out harmonious after all." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2009 Vintage Notes:
"Most 2009 wines have closed down, which accentuates their round and soft side forward. Many can still be quite enjoyable but the times of primary fruit with its attractive aromatic expression and a generous acidic kick are now over. Except for the dry wines, we would definitely recommend keeping your hands off any bottle in your cellar and possibly buying more wines from this vintage on the market as these are true gems in the making." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

 
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