Domain Marcel Deiss, a 25 year retrospective, with Mathieu Deiss

E&R, Portland, OR
Tasted Saturday, May 3, 2014 by David Paris (dbp) with 2,026 views

Introduction

A lovely event with Mathieu Deiss (son of primary winemaker Jean-Michel Deiss) of Domaine Marcel Deiss of Bergheim, Alsace. The Deiss family has been in Bergheim since 1744, currently controlling 26 hectares (52 acres) of hillside vineyards in 9 communes. Alsase regulations cap fruit at 80 hectoliters/hectare, and 55 for the grand Crus. Deiss is more like 34hl/ht across all their wines!

I really loved all of the things that Mathieu had to share about the regions history and what he considers factors in terroir. The vineyard has been organic since 1997. The "wines aren't corrected at all." They never add or remove anything: sugar, acid, yeast, etc. No fining, but minor filtration and minor sulfuring. Mathieu went on a little rant here at the beginning that I completely agreed with, how some wineries "speak to you about terroir, but then look at what they correct in the cellar." Yes, why bother with your organic farming if you're making a bunch of additions and subtractions to the wine? He says this is "Something stupid... just stupid!"

Also of great note was that in most vineyards, all of the grape varietals are co-planted. They generally do not put grapes on the label, as these wines are a reflection of terroir, not a grape. The point is the location, so field blends occur and all fruit of a vineyard is picked all the same day to show the expression of location. No sorting of clusters is done. Hugely interesting to me was that back before phylloxera there were over 350 varietals in Alsace! No one had any notion of what varietals were in the wines. Wines just came from "this hill, that hill." No one knew what grapes were in the wines. "Wines taste of place, not of grapes," he said. Post phylloxera, of course, people had to choose what to plant since everything had to specifically be grafted... so of course you were going to know what grapes you plant. This is when the fascination began with varietals. A fantastic quote from Jean-Michel Deiss:

"When you listen to Mozart, you don't ask what percentage of violin there is, or what percentage of oboe. It doesn't matter. What matters is that they all play harmoniously together. If I can distinguish the varieties, then it's no longer wine. Wine is music; wine is harmony." Beautiful!

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Flight 1 - "Alsace" (5 Notes)

Mathieu mentioned that there are only two wines in all of Alsace simply labeled "Alsace"... the first two below. Almost everyone these days puts varietals on the labels, or at least vineyard. Seems crazy that these first two are the only... The simply "Alsace" Rouge is a fantastic effort.

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  • 2011 Marcel Deiss Rouge 89 Points

    France, Alsace

    Grown primarily in clay and limestone soils, it's a field blend of red grapes, primarily planted as Pinot Noir. Some herbal, green funky stuff on the nose, though it's gorgeous with a floral bend to the briar dominant notes. Nice light funky tartness as well. Fairly luscious, earthy aromas. Palate is soft, but quickly getting gritty. Fairly light in flavor, tasting quite "grapey." Perhaps some yeast notes, too. The finish is tart, and slightly puckering, building in tannin and acid after swallowing and the finish goes on. Puckering quite a bit after finishing... lingers quite a while.

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  • 2011 Marcel Deiss Blanc 84 Points

    France, Alsace

    Smells quite creamy and almost buttery. Like caramel corn. Lots of slightly awkward lemon tasting melon notes. Creamy palate entry, but viscously chunky. Mild acid, tartness, and nice melon, with just a touch of lemon. More slightly awkward melon there. Good eruption of acidity on thee finish, and builds nicely. After a bit it feels odd and slightly funky.

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  • 2011 Marcel Deiss Muscat Bergheim 88 Points

    France, Alsace

    This is a blend of four types of Muscat. Very floral and exuberant aromas. Like chewing on a lily petal covered in pollen. Very very interesting and unique, and quite perfumy. Soft palate and quite creamy. Tastes like lemon custard pie with acid on top. Very smooth. Big eruption of acid on the finish. Tart, but smooth, with heavy honeydew melon and more of the lemon custard pie with citric acid.

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  • 2011 Marcel Deiss Riesling 85 Points

    France, Alsace

    Pretty soft aromas, with lightly creamy notes. Chunky texture, but coats the mouth with a creamy notion. Mild. Some funky tart stuff on the finish, with puckering lingering Pretty straight forward stuff, though.

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  • 2010 Marcel Deiss Pinot Gris 84 Points

    France, Alsace

    Funky, soil aromas of dirty chalk. Chunky palate texture. Tastes generic without much depth. General melon note. Not much carter on the finish either, but some better acidity coming in later.

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Flight 2 - "Premier Cru" (5 Notes)

These wines are not really Premier Cru, as there is no such construct in Alsace. Deiss has been arguing for a Premier Cru designation for some time, as these particular vineyards are most certainly of higher quality, albeit perhaps not on par with the Grand Crus. One year they even put "Premier Cru" on the label, but that didn't go over very well with the AOC. Someone said, "there are no Premier Cru Vineyards in Alsace," to which Deiss replied simply, "Are you sure?"

For a while there when négociants really controlled the sale of wines here they made absolutely no differentiation between these single vineyards and generic Alsace... so they'd pay the same for these vineyards as the generic stuff, only paying more if it were Grand Cru. That bit has change as of late, but the winery still feels Premier Cru needs to be a formal destination. Apparently just last month though the vintners have gotten together and agree to have a Premier Cru.

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  • 2010 Marcel Deiss Langenberg 89 Points

    France, Alsace

    Soft, elegant aromas. Some tart lemon, dried hay, and squash. Chunky texture on the palate, and creamy, showing mild building flavors. Good dial up of acidity on the finish, which is tart and puckering, but fairly mellow. Nice and clean with some minerals lingering long. Dry, lingering notion. Nice.

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  • 2009 Marcel Deiss Schoffweg 89 Points

    France, Alsace

    Some funky grassiness on the nose, coupled with bitter minerals. Very rocky notes, coupled with lemon and quartz. Soft texture, nearly creamy, with a good rockiness. Some minerals, and mostly durty, with mild tartness and what feels like tannins. Creamy sensation attacks on the initial finish, which is delicious, then 10 seconds later you get a huge attack of acid. Now, puckering 1 minute later my mouth feels tannic. Funny timing, as about this point Mathieu commented how the skins included in the fermentation do indeed impart some tannins to the wines. Interesting.

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  • 2009 Marcel Deiss Grasberg 91 Points

    France, Alsace

    Fireworks and a tart funkiny lemon on the nose. Very intense notes, coupled with minerals. Nice. The palate is lush and creamy, with lots of orange marmalade and melon. Fairly persistent attack with intense earth and minerals. Sweet melon on the finish , and the veins of an orange lingering. Puckering and lean. Tart, but really quite juicy fruited as well. Very good. This was around 35 grams/liter RS.

    As this was the first wine with noticeable sweetness, at this point Mathieu Deiss talked about botrytis in the vineyard. He commented, "Botrytis is part of the terroir. We focus on what terroir does best. Don't force it out or it will be green. It's better to have concentration. It's not jammy. Not heavy. It's elegant." Nice... his vineyards that naturally have botrytis they just allow it, and vice versa, don't force it to vineyards where it doesn't develop.

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  • 2008 Marcel Deiss Burg 92 Points

    France, Alsace

    Tart and funky aromas of melon and acid. This smells like powdered chalk. Nice notes of meaty melon. Soft palate, with flavors of melon and cream. Tart as well, with sharp candied lemon notes, too. Fantastic depth on the palate. Great balance of hugely intense minerality and sweet elegance. Really nice stuff, with an incredible lingering presence.

    Mathieu mentioned sometimes upon opening this wine feels reduced, so the initial thought is to aerate it, but he says if you do so you'll "destroy it." So don't aerate. He also mentioned this is thus a very hard wine to make in the cellar, as it seems to tell you to do things that would destroy it. While he says some wines make themselves, he could not have made this wine without his father, as it's quite hard to tell what direction it's headed in the cellar.

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  • 2008 Marcel Deiss Huebuhl 91 Points

    France, Alsace

    This vineyard makes botrytis every year. The aromas are of bubble gum. There's some flinty minerality too, and a slight green bitter note. Very soft on palate entry, and goats the mouth; however, there's also something slightly chunky about the texture. Certainly tastes of botrytis, with some funky rocks too. Soft and tart, and pretty forward, despite some green notes. Tart and puckering finish, with really awesome lingering tartness and body. Really nice development on the finish. Puckering, with nice volume and slightly green. Pretty and unique.

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Flight 3 - Mambourg Grand Cru (2 Notes)

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  • 2002 Marcel Deiss Mambourg 87 Points

    France, Alsace, Alsace Grand Cru

    Creamy, burned sugar aroma. Soft, but slightly green, with some notes of Cheerios. Pretty light textually; thin in body. Slightly saline saltiness. Puckering, and slightly bitter. Puckering on the finish too, which is tart and bitter, with some tannic notions here too. Burning and spicy.

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  • 1999 Marcel Deiss Mambourg 88 Points

    France, Alsace, Alsace Grand Cru

    Funky, bitter aromas of rotting scabby meat. Great palate entry, which is very soft and involving initially, with notes of candied lemon, melon, and plenty of minerality, but very seductive and soft. Puckering finish, but pretty smooth and spicy. Tart, with some metallic notions. Interesting that this bottle wasn't as oxidative as the one from a few months back, but I didn't enjoy it as much. After drinking this, Mathieu commented that this is drinking too young. The vineyard is limestone and clay, and develops botrytis every year, and they let that happen as the skin to berry ratio needs more time to mature.

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Flight 4 - Altenberg Grand Cru (3 Notes)

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  • 2008 Marcel Deiss Altenberg de Bergheim 92 Points

    France, Alsace, Alsace Grand Cru

    This vineyard has three age parcels; 70 years old, 40 years old, and 10. Honey aromas. Deliciously sweet. Delicious blood orange. Lovely, soft notes. Smooth and soft palate, with lovely acid coming in quickly. Yummy, with really great texture and flavors here, as I keep this in the mouth it just keeps developing. Soft, coating, creamy, and lush. Fantastic depth on the elegant finish. So penetrating and demands focus. Lovely stuff.

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  • 2001 Marcel Deiss Altenberg de Bergheim 91 Points

    France, Alsace, Alsace Grand Cru

    Spicy melon on the nose, with huge orange marmalade (and it's even that color). Some rubber notes too, with a nice creamy notion to the scents. Just so lovely. More sniffs and I now also get a creamed cauliflower and asparagus. Creamy palate; soft, but slightly metallic. Mellow melon notes, with some acid coming in. Pretty dull in flavor, but the body is seductive. Good intensity on the finish, with nice spice and depth here. Good elegance. Better finish, but I wish for more on the palate.

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  • 2000 Marcel Deiss Altenberg de Bergheim 91 Points

    France, Alsace, Alsace Grand Cru

    Softer aromas here, though still spicy, with a mild sweet sensation. Certainly spicy and green, though. The palate is soft and mild, with some metallic minerals and melon skin. Tart, and quite creamy. Coating and creamy finish, showing tart melons and puckering notions. Started around 90, but I left a bit in the glass for later and it improved with air.

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Flight 5 - Schoenenbourg Grand Cru (4 Notes)

Mathieu noted that this vineyard has a lot of gypsum in the soil, which is high in sulfur. This acts as a natural anti-microbial, which is why this vineyard stands up so well to weather. He said that Gypsum makes up 50% of plaster for this reason... this is why houses are built out of it; as a natural anti-mold!

Also, there's lots of clay in this soil, and apparently phylloxera has a hard time digging if your ground is at least 70% clay... so if a vineyard has deep roots in clay it does amazingly well against phylloxera. As such, many of the vines in this vineyard are not grafted.

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  • 2009 Marcel Deiss Schoenenbourg 91 Points

    France, Alsace, Alsace Grand Cru

    Smells like gummy bears; sweet, but also slightly funky, showing some minerals and tartness. Very smooth and soft palate, which is quite lovely. Soft, with some green notes, but also an interesting sweetness (when coupled with the green). Tart finish, with some green puckering fruit. Lovely, though, with some elegance. Nice, but fairly mellow in complexion.

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  • 2001 Marcel Deiss Schoenenbourg 91 Points

    France, Alsace, Alsace Grand Cru

    Way funky green notes on the nose. Tartness as well, which makes this feel a little off balanced; though really, there isn't much volume on the nose. Awesome palate entry. It's so smooth and deep, with a lovely balance of tartness and bitterness. Some green notes coupled with berry notes. Lovely stuff. Very nice dial up of acid on the finish, with great creaminess. Spice and tartness on the finish, all the while showing that great creaminess which lingers very long.

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  • 2000 Marcel Deiss Schoenenbourg 90 Points

    France, Alsace, Alsace Grand Cru

    Pretty, soft, but light aromas. Not too much. Tart palate, with some more green notes. Tartness and bitterness on the palate, with some slightly funky puckering notions. Puckering acid on the finish, showing tartness and more bitterness. Some sweetness lingers after a while, but this doesn't feel wholly in balance.

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  • 1999 Marcel Deiss Schoenenbourg 87 Points

    France, Alsace, Alsace Grand Cru

    Soft, acidic aromas, but pretty funky. There's this odd metallic barrel funk that I don't dig. More bitter funkiness on the palate, and following into the finish. Hard to get into this wine after the much better showings earlier.

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Flight 6 - Sweeter Gewurztraminer (2 Notes)

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  • 1999 Marcel Deiss Gewurztraminer Vendanges Tardives 91 Points

    France, Alsace

    Mathieu mentioned this is mostly made up of Altenberg fruit. Spicy and smooth aromas, but really not all that much there. Incredibly rich palate entry. Like honey, complete with the honeycomb. Some nice bitter acid and mellow tartness as well. The palate is pretty smooth and fairly nice. Moderate acid dials up on a slightly creamy, though off balanced finish, showing some alcohol. Still impressive body. I wish there were more complexities here.

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  • 1989 Marcel Deiss Gewurztraminer Altenberg de Bergheim Sélection de Grains Nobles 91 Points

    France, Alsace, Alsace Grand Cru

    I detect a bit of alcohol on the nose on this too. There's notes of stewed baked apples and a rubber band. Nice, hugely complex depth with lovely differentiation of notes. Very lovely palate, with great depth and nice texture, though there's some chunky sensations, showing strong acid and notes of alcohol. Rich and heavy texture, with flavors of creamy, caramelized pear. Tart finish. Funky spice. Again, some alcohol noted on the finish, which isn't as smooth and pretty as the palate. Would be much better without that alcohol.

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Closing

A really fun tasting. I always enjoy hearing these amazing, historic producers speak about their wines and vineyards. There were particularly some new bits of information today, with a really great perspective. That said, and while I enjoyed nearly everything poured today, I'm still not wholly convinced of the value of Alsace. There were plenty of lovely wines, but from a price standpoint I think elsewhere in the world offers finer QPR (e.g. Germany).

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