Cesare's Group - Collective House Cleaning

Lake Elmo
Tasted Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - Wednesday, November 12, 2008 by vanpe003 with 945 views

Introduction

This one came about as the fall shipping season was in full swing and it became apparent that some space needed to be made for new arrivals. So, the theme of the evening was "bring over whatever you don't want in the house anymore". Fortunately, this included a bunch of experiments, wines that hadn't been tried by the group before, that yielded some pleasant surprises. What we ended up with was a combination of some pretty bad wines, some decent wines, and a few top notch bottles. In general, we raced through the wines first pass through, quickly dividing the bottles into "cast offs" and "keepers", and then went back to revisit the most highly favored wines in more detail. No detailed notes were taken. Nate and Brian also brought some interesting stuff, some of which may not have been captured here as the bottles are buried in the garage amongst a heap of glass.

Brian, Nate, Michelle, Gay and I in attendance.

Flight 1 - Whites and a Bubbly (7 Notes)

A bit of a "starter" round, with the only real losers of the bunch being the '93 Chalone that was well past its prime. Ditto the 1987 Dr. Lenzen. All the rest were in the "good" to "very good" class.

Flight 2 - Pinots (8 Notes)

None of these were bottles I considered as "top notch" pinots, at least for my tastes. So, no surprise that a couple of them were disappointing. Of this batch, I really liked the Argyle, and was pleasantly surprised by it.

Flight 3 - European Stuff (7 Notes)

Most of these were opened the prior night as a "pre cleaning". I considered all of these to be quite serviceable. A pleasant surprise for me was the Valdicava Rosso, which I have had before but not enjoyed. The Antinori Tig was also a good surprise, as it had questionable provenance. No losers in this bunch, though the Lafage never gets a lot of love when poured for this group.

  • 2003 Avignonesi Vino Nobile di Montepulciano 89 Points

    Italy, Tuscany, Montepulciano, Vino Nobile di Montepulciano

    (11/11/2008)

    A little tight initially, but opens up nicely in the glass. Medium bodied, not overly complex. Cassis, wood, diminished acidity as compared to 2 years ago. Should continue to improve over the next couple of years.

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  • 2004 Valdicava Rosso di Montalcino 89 Points

    Italy, Tuscany, Montalcino, Rosso di Montalcino

    (11/11/2008)

    An interesting comparison on a couple fronts. First, as compared to a bottle from a month or so ago, I didn't get the barnyard. Btl variation is the only thing I can think. Also an interesting comparison to the 2003 Avignonesi Vino Nobile di Montepulciano also opened. The Valdicava is a bit richer/darker, while the Avignonesi's acidity gives it both a brightness and structure that might make for more interesting food pairings.

    As for the note, yeasty red fruit on the nose which pleasantly carries to a medium bodied palate. A bit of tannic dryness on the finish, but nothing to overt. I can actually say that I enjoy this bottle, until I remind myself what it cost.....! This is probably the first time that I haven't had some level of disappointment with this wine. Perhaps a matter of managing expectations!

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  • 2005 Domaine Lafage Côté Sud 87 Points

    France, Languedoc Roussillon, Roussillon, Côtes Catalanes

    (11/11/2008)

    I like it, but not as much as the bottles from earlier this year. Lighter in body and fruit character than the early bottles, with more evident tannins/acidity on the finish (perhaps because the fruit has seemingly stepped aside a bit). The tannins do fade after 30-45 minutes. The first bottles reminded me of Oz, this one of the Rhone, with a dollop of something that reminds me of Grenache, but apparently isn't. I've gone from "I can't get enough of this" to "I have too much". I'll put a few away for a longer-term experiment (2 years). Perhaps this has just gone stupid for a little bit.

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  • 1996 Taurino Salice Salentino Riserva

    Italy, Puglia, Salice Salentino

    (11/12/2008)

    Brian brought this one. I don't recall it being either notably good or notably bad. A bit of a tire rubber element to it.

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  • 2001 Allegrini Palazzo della Torre Veronese IGT

    Italy, Veneto, Veronese IGT

    (11/12/2008)

    No detailed notes. I enjoyed this one a lot, and it seems to be in the prime of its drinking window.

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  • 2000 Antinori Tignanello 91 Points

    Italy, Tuscany, Toscana IGT

    (11/11/2008)

    On the nose, sweet cedar, medium dark fruit, faintest hint of tar and earth, and oddly enough a whiff of tangerine. The palate needs a bit of time (60 minutes in the glass) to come together and show some integration. When it does, it's quite nice...lush mouthfeel, chocolate fruit, and very nice finish (surprisingly so given the way it starts after the pop). One more btl left, I'll probably hold it for a couple more years.

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  • 2000 Quinta do Crasto Douro Reserva Old Vines 91 Points

    Portugal, Douro

    (11/11/2008)

    Didn't seem to have quite the same depth / lushness on the palate as the last bottle. More acidity/tannins on the finish than I remember. Revisit tomorrow. Update: I thought this was considerably better the second night when poured for the Cesare's event.

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Flight 4 - Some Older Cab / Bord Blends (6 Notes)

This started out with the 1985 Inglenook. I had a bottle a few days before that was "ok". The one opened for this event was shot. The most interesting of this bunch was the 2000 Campuget that Nate brought over - an incredible wine for the price. The best of the bunch was the 1986 Mondavi Reserve, which I thought was a very nice example of this bottling and drinking quite well.

  • 1985 Inglenook Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon Reunion Reserve Cask 88 Points

    USA, California, Napa Valley

    (11/10/2008)

    Ruby and clear in the glass, with the very slightest of bricking. Mature cab nose that's mostly dark and old. Similar impressions on the palate. I generally like the style. Perhaps just a bit one-dimensional. Will revisit later. I like it better than the score would indicate, but objectively this is over the hill.

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  • 1985 Inglenook Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon Reunion Reserve Cask Flawed

    USA, California, Napa Valley

    (11/12/2008)

    Essentially undrinkable. Well past its prime.

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  • 2000 Château de Campuget Costières-de-Nîmes Cuvée Prestige 88 Points

    France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Costières-de-Nîmes

    (11/12/2008)

    Ridiculously good bottle provided by Nate. Ridiculous in that I think he said he paid somewhere in the neighborhood of $5 for it. Relatively straightforward in style, and less subtle than some from the Old World. A great find.

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  • 1996 Château Beau Soleil

    France, Bordeaux, Libournais, Pomerol

    (11/12/2008)

    Serviceable, but nothing special. Reminded me a bit of the '96 Lanessan and '96 Les Hauts de Pontet-Canet I've had in the past, though probably not as good as the latter. I think I'll need to find all my pedestrian '96 Bordeaux and start pouring it, as I think most of the lesser bottles are heading towards decline, if not already there.

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  • 1986 Robert Mondavi Winery Cabernet Sauvignon Napa Valley

    USA, California, Napa Valley

    (11/12/2008)

    Better than the 85 Inglenook Reserve Cask, but still came across a bit tired, particularly when compared to a good bottle of the '86 Mondavi Reserve.

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  • 1986 Robert Mondavi Winery Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve 91 Points

    USA, California, Napa Valley

    (11/12/2008)

    One of the better bottles of this I've had. Not tired at all. Blew away the regular '86 Mondavi as well as the 85 Inglenook Reserve Cask.

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Flight 5 - Zinfandels (2 Notes)

Both these disappointed me somewhat. The Seven Lions is more like an appertif with it's portiness. The Turley didn't have some of the traditional Turley hallmark character that I've come to anticipate.

Flight 6 - Younger Reds (5 Notes)

Of these, the Perrin & Fils was the clear standout. There was also a bottle Brian brought over, a Koongarra Vyd 2005 Shiraz that isn't listed anywhere on CT. Perhaps for good reason!

Flight 7 - Dessert (2 Notes)

Two quite different wines, one too tight and acidic for my tastes, the other too sweet.

Flight 8 - Late Night Additions (5 Notes)

This is why people have locks on their cellars. After most of the rest of the wines were tasted and either put into the discard pile or consumed more fully, we decided to go down to the cellar to see what else we could find. In each case below, the wine probably would have been much more appreciated in a more "controlled setting".

  • 2001 Glaetzer Shiraz Amon-Ra Barossa Valley

    Australia, South Australia, Barossa, Barossa Valley

    (11/12/2008)

    A late night add, popped and poured. Perhaps palate fatigue, but I wasn't particularly impressed with this, and normally I like the fruit bomb OZ style.

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  • 1997 Moccagatta Barbaresco Bric Balin

    Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barbaresco

    (11/12/2008)

    Another late night bottle, and another one that wasn't well served by the collective palate fatigue.

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  • 2000 Giuseppe Rinaldi Barolo Brunate Le Coste

    Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo

    (11/12/2008)

    No detailed notes, but a good bottle of wine, and an appropriate "turn the page" wine given that I received it from Brian at Cesare's, who's onto new ventures.

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  • 2006 Black Opal Cabernet Merlot

    Australia, South Eastern

    (11/12/2008)

    I don't know where I got this, but it was sitting on the counter, with a very convenient screwtop and became a late-night casualty. Unlike the other late night offerings, this one was no loss.

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  • 1997 Château Doisy-Védrines

    France, Bordeaux, Sauternais, Sauternes

    (11/12/2008)

    The bottle was open and gone...that's about the extent of my notes.

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Closing

A fun night, and a good opportunity to taste through a lot of wine of different styles, countries, etc. without the need to feel guilty about not giving a wine its fair amount of attention. It was a house cleaning afterall, "all these wines have to go", and from that point it was "mission accomplished. Still, some surprisingly good wines. I think that next time around, I'd try to avoid the "late night adds", as I didn't really get a lot out of these wines after everything that came before them.

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