Echinosum
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ORIGINAL: andrew Cayetano del Pino is/was traditionally an Almacenista which meant they didn't release their own wines. So that name is reasonably under Viniberia as well as Lustau and Sanchez-Romate. Is looks like they have their own labelling as well. (The Lustau makes it clear the relationship). According to at least one Jancis review, the Viniberia version is valid. I think the Sanchez-Romate version is now the stand-alone, but I am not sure. Thank you for that explanation, it makes a lot of sense of what is going on. But the two Cayetano del Pino wines you have left under the Viniberia producer are - or appear to be - duplicated under the Cayetano del Pino producer. Specifically NV Viniberia Jerez-Xérès-Sherry Cayetano del Pino Palo Cortado 1/10 and NV Cayetano del Pino & Cía S.A. Palo Cortado 1/10 VOS are the same wine, or at least have the same label. And NV Viniberia Jerez-Xérès-Sherry Cayetano del Pino Palo Cortado Solera and NV Cayetano del Pino & Cía S.A. Palo Cortado Solera are the same wine. Or at least have the same label. As you say, Sánchez-Romate also put out a NV Sánchez Romate Hnos. Jerez-Xérès-Sherry Cayetano del Pino Palo Cortado Solera, but at least it has the courtesy to have a different label from the above Palo Cortado Solera. So we can clearly distinguish it as the S-R bottled version, if we want to. And the two Lustau bottled Cayetano del Pino Palo Cortados have slightly different names as well as being clearly Lustau bottled. So those can be clearly identified as SR and Lustau bottlings of CdP elevé wines. So maybe all of these Cayetano del Pino "own labels" are in fact Viniberia bottlings. Or maybe Viniberia created the label/wine, and then CdP took it back in-house later, while retaining the same branding/labelling. But if it is under the same label, and we can't really tell the difference, it is perhaps sensible to keep what look like Cayetano del Pino own-label bottlings in one place, whether it is under Viniberia or under a separate CdP producer? Meanwhile there is a small issue that the someone has created a 2015 vintage version of the Viniberia Jerez-Xérès-Sherry Cayetano del Pino Palo Cortado Solera, which is clearly not possible for a solera wine. I suspect that is a bottling date rather than a vintage. Some people might wish to distinguish NV wines with different bottling dates, though it seems to make less sense for a solera wine than others.
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