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Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 4:01:29 AM   
pjaines

 

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Status: offline 		Maestro made mention of some grape varieties (Falanghina and Greco di Tufo) that I love in another post, but outside of these, Sangiovese, Nebbiolo and Aglianico I think there is a swathe of Italina grapes that  a lot of us are ignorant about.

Maestro and others - any info and pointers appreciated to other varietels we should open our minds to.

For those that have not tried Falanghina and Greco di Tufo whites I strongly recommend you do.,

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 4:26:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Paul, you just opened Pandora's box. This is what my friend Thomas wrote about his favorite wine region and grapes:
http://www.nothingcontroversial.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29980&postcount=25


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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 4:31:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you don't know Arneis, you might want to try it. It is the white variety that grows alongside Nebbiolo and Barbera in Piedmont and it makes some very interesting wines.

It is a bit of love-it-or-hate-it, so if it's not for you, well... then it is not for you.

But I like it...

Some of your known Piedmont producers may make an Arneis, but excellent quality comes from the Roero Arneis DOCG.

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 5:29:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Srge - interesting post from your friend.  I forgot about Vermintino  - I drink a lot of that in summer - very crisp, refreshing.

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 6:27:34 AM   
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If you don't know Arneis, you might want to try it. It is the white variety that grows alongside Nebbiolo and Barbera in Piedmont and it makes some very interesting wines.

It is a bit of love-it-or-hate-it, so if it's not for you, well... then it is not for you.

But I like it...

Some of your known Piedmont producers may make an Arneis, but excellent quality comes from the Roero Arneis DOCG.


Yes, an fantastic grape. Malvira, Correggia, Filippo Gallino is some of my favorite Arneis producers.

You should also try Rossese Bianco, one of the few producers who produce this is Giovanni Manzone in Monforte. Several producers has contacted the Manzone family to buy plants from them, even Clerico.

Also Favorita i nice, several produce this.

Moscato, dry version. Fabrizio www.ressia.com makes this, fantastic. I think he is the only one.

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 7:38:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's not exactly rare, but I'm a fan of Barbera. Maestro has a very good knowledge of this varietal, so I'll leave further comment to him.

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 7:45:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		...and I'm fan of Emir grape. It's not exactly rare and from Turkey, but my friend Habib has a very good knowledge of this varietal, so I'll leave further comments to Habib.

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 7:52:51 AM   
Birger Vejrum

 

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It's not exactly rare, but I'm a fan of Barbera. Maestro has a very good knowledge of this varietal, so I'll leave further comment to him.


Hi Anne,

As you say, it is not. Approx 99% of the producers in Langhe area produce Barbera, I love it too.


www.barbera.it

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 8:34:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Again, not a rare varietal, but not yet mentioned here is Nero d'Avola.

I came across a wide variety of styles while in Sicily last month, from simple "pizza wines" to very complex wines meant for aging. I was surprised at how versitile the grape could be.

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 8:40:04 AM   
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Again, not a rare varietal, but not yet mentioned here is Nero d'Avola.

I came across a wide variety of styles while in Sicily last month, from simple "pizza wines" to very complex wines meant for aging. I was surprised at how versitile the grape could be.


I agree, recently had this one 2005 Feudo Maccari Saia  and the 2003 also.

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 9:30:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		What about the Negroamaro grape from Puglia.  Antinori just built a winery there and makes a very nice, very inexpensive table wine called Tormaresca Neprica.

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 9:50:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Last spring I was on a business trip in Trieste and our host, after hearing of my interest in wines, wanted me taste some local wines. "Great idea!", I answered, adding in my Italian "molto bene idea vini locale si si!" 

I can't really remember the grape nor the name of the wine which we had over dinner (the bottle in the restaurant had actually no label, but just a small piece of paper glued to the bottle with the name of the bottle and the vintage), but I recall the wine was a youngish red wine of a very dry and tanninic character and a medium-bodied structure, and they say it's only produced somewhere south of Trieste. The specialty of it is that the grapes grow on the limestone area only of that particular mountaineous region along the adriatic coastline. It was a totally unknown variety also to my Torino-based italian collegue, who is into wines. The wine didn't pair too well with the lamb we were having so that probably affected my judgement, as I didn't really get too excited over the wine, so I didn't bother to write down the variety or the producer, but if someone recognizes which variety it could be, I'd be glad to know.

Overall I'd say that when you visit Trieste or the region in general, seafood and almost any local white wine is a really rewarding experience.

Man, I love Italy! I even loved my Alfa Romeo 164, even though the maintenance cost me more than the car itself did...


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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 10:05:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		BTW, Brachetto, the sweet wine from Piemonte. Do you know this wine?

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 1:39:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Loli, the wine you had was probably a Refosco (terrano as its called there) its a very popular grape around Trieste/ Carso region. Yeah Trieste is great Im there quite alot, great food, intresting mix of Italian, Slovienian and Austrian, good whites too, Tokai and an unusual one Vitovska Gargania, Very interisting region with lots of different influences

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 2:35:49 PM   
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I have been drinking this, winery is located a few miles from my friends place in Umbria


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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 3:45:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		lagrein ... my understanding is that it's Italian Syrah. The couple bottles I've had have been enormously delicious, cheap, and not big and gloppy like so many other syrahs. pretty awesome stuff.

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/2/2009 7:14:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Love reading this thread as I'm always trying different wines from Italy.  Been trying to find some different whites after having some nice Gavi.

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/3/2009 12:08:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Since I am from the South, I drink a lot of Aglianico... But I told you all about that before...

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/3/2009 8:19:13 AM   
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Since I am from the South, I drink a lot of Aglianico... But I told you all about that before...


Hi Maestro,

Who is among your favorite Aglianico producers?

Thanks

Ciao
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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/3/2009 11:03:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Birger Vejrum

Hi Maestro,

Who is among your favorite Aglianico producers?

Thanks

Ciao
Birger



Birger, if you read this post you'll find more about it.

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RE: Little known and unusual Italian Grape varieties - 9/3/2009 9:53:31 PM   
Birger Vejrum

 

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ORIGINAL: Birger Vejrum

Hi Maestro,

Who is among your favorite Aglianico producers?

Thanks

Ciao
Birger



Birger, if you read this post you'll find more about it.


Thanks Maestro, interesting reading.

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