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SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 6:02:33 AM

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A vacationer recently returned to his home in Santa Monica to find a thief had made off with more than a dozen works of art by the likes of Piet Mondrian and Jasper Johns, five luxury watches with makers like Patek and Breitling, wine, cash and a red Porsche Carrera.

Police said in a statement Wednesday that the take totals more than $10 million. The burglar struck between Sept. 12 at 3 p.m. and Sept. 13 at 8:00 p.m.

I really want to know what wines were taken...

I can just imagine some cat burglar relaxing in a smoking jacket, drinking a lineup of pilfered '82 Bordeaux, gazing at a Jasper Johns piece, and checking the time on a Patek Phillipe Grand Complication

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 6:21:53 AM

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The former owner and burglar have good taste. I find it interesting that the everything was detailed out except the wine (excluding the cash).

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 6:26:20 AM

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The former owner and burglar have good taste. I find it interesting that the everything was detailed out except the wine (excluding the cash).

Exactly my thought...not your standard burglary at all. Almost a Thomas Crowne Affair feel

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 6:46:59 AM

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I wonder if anyone checked the victims finances to see if the burglary was possibly fraud? Sounds like a great insurance scam to me!

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 6:57:59 AM

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More detail...and pics of the art, but no details on the wine...

http://www.smdp.com/high-end-art-stolen-in-residential-burglary/111922

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Watches that were stolen include a Glashutte Senator, a Breitling Chronomat OR and a TAG Heuer GT. Some of the watches sell for tens of thousands of dollars. Police did not say which types of wine were stolen.

The paintings include work by Joseph Cornell, one of the most celebrated exponents of assemblage; Piet Mondrian, a Dutch artist known for his non-representational form, which he termed Neo-Plasticism; Franz Kline, an abstract impressionist; and Frank Stella, who worked in the areas of minimalism and post-painterly abstraction.

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 7:07:24 AM

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This just makes me even more curious...$2500 average on the bottles if the statement is accurate. Though the "you cant get here in this country" part made me chuckle...

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Among the stolen goods were 40 bottles of wine "that you can't get here in this country," said Santa Monica Police Sgt. Richard Lewis. He put the price tag of the wine alone at $100,000.

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 8:05:18 AM

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Joseph Cornell is one of my favorites.

The artist. I'm not familiar with a Joseph Cornell wine.

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 1:58:18 PM

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Some of the crap that passes for 'art' these days is just ridiculous. Of the 13 images above I would say 5 have artistic merit to me, the others (by BIG names too) are pre-schooler crap.

Then again, I'm a 'poor' computer programmer and not an internationally famous rich artist. So my opinion is worth what you paid for it... which is exactly what I would pay for the 'art' above :)

To me this sounds incredibly bogus. Who has $10mil of random possessions in addition to a mansion, but no alarm or security service?

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 2:11:29 PM

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Someone stole this from my living room

and this

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 2:11:49 PM

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And we're off.

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 5:10:03 PM

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To me this sounds incredibly bogus. Who has $10mil of random possessions in addition to a mansion, but no alarm or security service?

Apparently this guy, and people give their money to him so he can invest it

http://news.yahoo.com/investment-superstar-victim-10-million-burglary-115000337.html?_esi=1

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/20/2012 5:50:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: atkinson_b2

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ORIGINAL: schwank

To me this sounds incredibly bogus. Who has $10mil of random possessions in addition to a mansion, but no alarm or security service?

Apparently this guy, and people give their money to him so he can invest it

http://news.yahoo.com/investment-superstar-victim-10-million-burglary-115000337.html?_esi=1

Sounds more and more like an insurance scam with each successive post. An investment banker, in a melted economy, no alarm,
$10Mil? Seriously?

Or, perhaps his former employer DID receive damages after all!

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/21/2012 9:15:38 AM

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If he can wait a few minutes, I'm pretty sure I can recreate the Cy Twombly and the Piet Mondrian for him.

...sorry Musedir

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/25/2012 1:48:11 PM

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He's offering a substantial reward--$1.7M. Maybe to throw off the scent of an insurance scam, but I don't think so as he's specifically broken it down to $1M for the Mondrian and half a mil for the Jasper Johns. He's only put $200K on the table for the car, wine, watches, and other art.

I'd say that this was not the work of a random crackhead jiggling sliders to see if someone left one unlocked. His home was specifically targeted and the thieves knew exactly what they were looking for. My guess is that the majority of it was in an ocean cargo container on it's way to China from Long Beach before he realized it was missing.

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/25/2012 2:48:03 PM

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If he can wait a few minutes, I'm pretty sure I can recreate the Cy Twombly and the Piet Mondrian for him.

...sorry Musedir

Yeah... If real, not good. The story has problems but the lack of security is just troubling. The rest of the stuff sounds equally targeted. A pissed off investor? An insurance scam? Too early to determine...

But just as I can't make wines like a front line winemaker, I could not recreate the artworks despite how simplistic they may appear.

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/25/2012 2:53:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: schwank

Some of the crap that passes for 'art' these days is just ridiculous. Of the 13 images above I would say 5 have artistic merit to me, the others (by BIG names too) are pre-schooler crap.

Then again, I'm a 'poor' computer programmer and not an internationally famous rich artist. So my opinion is worth what you paid for it... which is exactly what I would pay for the 'art' above :)

To me this sounds incredibly bogus. Who has $10mil of random possessions in addition to a mansion, but no alarm or security service?

Steady there lad.
We saw a cool Jasper Johns at the museum in Charleston Sat.

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/25/2012 2:57:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: schwank

Some of the crap that passes for 'art' these days is just ridiculous. Of the 13 images above I would say 5 have artistic merit to me, the others (by BIG names too) are pre-schooler crap.

Then again, I'm a 'poor' computer programmer and not an internationally famous rich artist. So my opinion is worth what you paid for it... which is exactly what I would pay for the 'art' above :)

To me this sounds incredibly bogus. Who has $10mil of random possessions in addition to a mansion, but no alarm or security service?

Steady there lad.
We saw a cool Jasper Johns at the museum in Charleston Sat.

And I still want to make it into a t-shirt!

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/25/2012 2:59:39 PM

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I'll get the blueprints
You bring the dark clothing
(and the 6 liter)

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/25/2012 3:13:14 PM

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I think it will take both 6L bottles... One for the guards and one for us to get ready to do this job!

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/25/2012 3:13:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: musedir

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ORIGINAL: canandi

If he can wait a few minutes, I'm pretty sure I can recreate the Cy Twombly and the Piet Mondrian for him.

...sorry Musedir

Yeah... If real, not good. The story has problems but the lack of security is just troubling. The rest of the stuff sounds equally targeted. A pissed off investor? An insurance scam? Too early to determine...

But just as I can't make wines like a front line winemaker, I could not recreate the artworks despite how simplistic they may appear.

Even fairly sophisticated security systems can be easily circumvented by a pro.

If your alarm ever goes off but nothing is missing and it doesn't appear anyone actually entered, consider yourself warned. It was a thief waiting in the shadows to see how long it would take for someone to respond--if anyone responded at all. (Barring gale force winds possibly being the culprit of course.)

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/25/2012 3:15:23 PM

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True that.

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/27/2012 7:15:25 PM

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They caught two alleged thieves and recovered the art...

http://www.smdp.com/millions-in-stolen-art-recovered/112411

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RE: SWR: Wine Thievery! - 9/27/2012 8:02:41 PM

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I have a friend in the Security Biz.

Everything can be circumvented for a moments in time. Its all about how bad you want the items. A $1.7M lottery ticket is some pretty good motivation for retired investigators.

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