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Dupes: Tondonia - 3/11/2024 2:00:26 AM

nnpad

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Edit: remove bosconia

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RE: Dupes: Tondonia - 3/11/2024 4:55:34 AM

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Bosconia is a different vineyard.

The Vina Tondonia and Vina Tondonia Reserva are both the same and not the same. There are vintages that were released both way, though more recent ones are all Reserva and the older ones were, but weren't labelled as such. We sort of try to keep them apart but I need to find their email to me about the cutoff where there is only properly labelled Reserva.

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RE: Dupes: Tondonia - 3/18/2024 3:53:33 PM

forceberry

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Any luck with the email?

I believe 2005 is the first vintage they bottled only as Reserva - at least I can't remember ever seeing a wine from that vintage that didn't have "Reserva" on the label. I believe there was a picture of 2004 Tondonia without the "Reserva" designation", so I guess they've bottled them as late as with 2004.

Have you ever heard why they've decided to bottle these wines with and without Reserva, if they've been the exact same wine? I understand that originally the wine was just Viña Tondonia (and the Gran Reserva had that "Cosecha de X" part), but once they started to label the basic Tondonia as Reserva, it would've made more sense to start labeling all the wines as Reserva instead of keeping two different labels for the same wine!

Anyways, I guess it's safe to merge at least all the Tondonias from the 2010's with the Reserva version. Probably also wines from 2005-2009, unless someone finds labels without the "Reserva" designation.

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