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Tough Pairing-Roasted Root Vegetables with Herbs (Recip... - 1/11/2010 4:44:34 PM   
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Hey guys -

I've done a couple of these before, and now I have one that is really wracking my brain... I'm making roasted root vegetables with herbs (whole garlic cloves, parsnips, carrots, red onions, turnips, sage, thyme, rosemary, sea salt, and black pepper; really easy to make and VERY good), and having a rotisserie chicken alongside it. This would naturally pair well with a lot of beers I can think of (like a weizenbock, among others), but I am having trouble thinking of how to pair it with any of my wines. Any of my wines you guys think would go well with this dinner? It'll be ready in the next hour, so I'll be checking in to see what y'all think :)

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/11/2010 4:51:19 PM   
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Normally I pair Syrah with roasted root vegetables.  But not so much with chicken.  I'd lean towards a Pinot Noir like a Kosta Browne or a Sea Smoke.  Hearty and intense.

The other options might be a zinfandel or maybe a grenache.  Or go with a really intense oaked chardonnay, something like a Cakebread Reserve might do the trick.

I don't really know the wines in your cellar, but given my descriptors, you should be able to find something that matches.

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/11/2010 4:58:33 PM   
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Yeah, was considering my Zinfandel ('07 Seghesio), but unfortunately my new world portfolio is rather small. I do have an '02 Penfolds St. Henri Shiraz, and a more oaky cheaper shiraz ('06 Marquis Philips), but I thought honestly despite their richer profile they still may be overwhelmed by the roots. Don't know... but I'm definitely not using any of my red burgs (you mentioned pinot, but I don't think that's what you had in mind!) ;) I'm also thinking about my 2004 Maison Arnoux & Fils Vacqueyras Vieux Clocher Cuvée Jean-Marie Arnoux...

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/11/2010 4:59:47 PM   
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Chateauneuf du Pape handles this with ease...

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/11/2010 5:20:01 PM   
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Chateauneuf du Pape handles this with ease...


That's where I'd land, too.  Something from a "normal" year, though, not one of the big ones.  And preferably something with a bit of age on it.

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/11/2010 5:21:05 PM   
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If you don't want to bust into a CdP try this one, it will work nicely.
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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/11/2010 5:36:32 PM   
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Thank for the tip.  I am a roasted veggie fan, but both the CdP and Vacqueyras are on hold for shipping.  May just have to stop at the local wine store to get some.  D

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/11/2010 5:39:17 PM   
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I agree with above that nearly any level Southern Rhone would pair nicely with your meal, especially if you will also be having roast chicken. 
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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/11/2010 5:44:45 PM   
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Try a light Bourgogne or Petit Verdot (the '06 Chapillon comes to mind). They work well with Thanksgiving stuffing. Depending on how heavy things are, a rose sparkler might be a fun experiment.

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/11/2010 5:45:05 PM   
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another vote for Southern Rhone...I think my first choice from your cellar would be Vacqueyras

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/11/2010 6:29:34 PM   
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Yet another vote for a wine from the Southern Rhone.  Your cellar lists several choices...

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/11/2010 8:03:12 PM   
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I'd go for your Luberon. The meal sounds lovely - let us know how it turns out!

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/12/2010 12:46:03 AM   
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Big, warm and spicy. Ripe Rhone blends or (better for me) a large scale Aussie shiraz or GSM blend.

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/12/2010 1:08:25 AM   
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CDP - or Languedoc red - something with a nice herby, gritty palate

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/12/2010 5:51:51 AM   
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Have you considered a young-drinking Nebbiolo such as a Produttori Langhe or a nice Gattinara?

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/12/2010 2:56:10 PM   
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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/12/2010 3:11:20 PM   
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I am probably out in left field on this one but I would go with the Pouilly Fuisse.   Even better would be a white Hermitage.

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/12/2010 3:39:53 PM   
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The 06 Ferrando CdP would pair beautifully.

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/12/2010 6:22:12 PM   
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So I went with my '04 Vacqueyras -- which was a phenomenal qpr in and of itself -- and it went very very well with this dish. I think that all of my CdP's are too young to be drinking now, though the '06 Ferrando was tempting... Now I know -- this kind of dish demands a good S. Rhone wine (maybe I'll do the Luberon next time!).

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/12/2010 8:37:38 PM   
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without having read others' replies, and knowing very well that your dinner is likely already in your belly, i'll throw-out my suggestion for posterity sake: the chicken eliminates many options right off the bat, and the garlic eliminates nearly all reds (in my mind, it eliminates all reds) as well as oaky whites.  I bet an off-dry Riesling would work well -- a Spatlese would be my choice.

EDIT: wow, i'm amazed at all the CdP recos.  glad it was a success.  looking forward to your next pairing challenge.

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/12/2010 8:49:12 PM   
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this would have been my rec: 2007 Reichsgraf von Kesselstatt Scharzhofberger Riesling Spätlese

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/13/2010 1:38:25 AM   
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Riesling would drink great as well too. I guess you will have to do it again and let us know how it goes. 

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/13/2010 8:17:04 AM   
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Yeah, the root vegetable recipe is about as easy as it gets to make. Since it sounds like a lot of people are at the very least interested in the pairing, I'll share the recipe I use. This came from trial and error, and is fantastic this way:

Root vegetables and others, peeled and cut into larger bite sized pieces and adding in total to 2 lbs or so:
Carrots
Parsnips
Turnips
Red Onion
Potatoes (the little assortment bag of small multicolored potatoes works if they're quartered)
Anything else you can think of along these lines (I guess celery might work?)

Plus about 5-15 cloves of garlic, seperated but unpeeled and uncut

Sea salt and black or white pepper to taste

Extra virgin olive oil (don't use any high-end stuff, just the big jug you use for cooking; the recipe takes at *least* 1/2 cup)

Herbs of your choice (just think what would go well in here... thyme, sage, rosemary, tarragon, etc)


1) Preheat oven to 475 degrees (standard bake; convection bake or convection roast, I'm not sure the conversion)
2) Get all dry ingredients including sea salt and pepper and place them in a roasting pan. Pour olive oil on (about 1/4-1/2 cup or more) and toss to coat evenly. There should be a very shallow pool of oil on the bottom of the pan. It's easiest if you use your hands.
3) For a convection oven, roast for 30 mins or until some of the vegetables begin to brown on the outside, tossing with a spatula every 10 minutes to prevent burning on one side or the other. For a standard oven, same procedure, tossing every 10 minutes, but cook for 40-70 minutes, again until the veggies have browned for at least a few minutes.
4) Scoop out of the pan and serve hot.

Don't eat the shells of the garlic cloves - just cut or squeeze the garlic out of the inside. The roasting really softens the flavor up.



There you have it... I think a riesling might work well too. It is a natural match for so many chicken dishes... In fact, I'll do a riesling next time I make this recipe, likely next winter. If any of you makes this recipe, let me know how it goes, and what you paired it with, I'd love to know.

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/13/2010 8:51:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: oskiwawa

I am probably out in left field on this one... Even better would be a white Hermitage.



^^^ Wot they said! ^^^

Or St Joseph. Or other nutty, herby, dry styles with some age behind them.

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/13/2010 8:53:24 AM   
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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/13/2010 1:41:36 PM   
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tru dat! that's why i love these threads -- it's always fun to see the different angles from which different folks approach these pairings. keep 'em coming, rossodio!

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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/13/2010 2:13:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: grafstrb

without having read others' replies, and knowing very well that your dinner is likely already in your belly, i'll throw-out my suggestion for posterity sake: the chicken eliminates many options right off the bat, and the garlic eliminates nearly all reds (in my mind, it eliminates all reds) as well as oaky whites.  I bet an off-dry Riesling would work well -- a Spatlese would be my choice.

EDIT: wow, i'm amazed at all the CdP recos.  glad it was a success.  looking forward to your next pairing challenge.


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Southern Rhone Reds (but not necessesarily CdP) have become my favorite pairing with Roasted Chicken, especially if herbed in any way and accompanied by nearly any roasted vegetable.  Palates are a funny thing, aren't they?
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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/13/2010 2:55:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cgrimes

quote:

ORIGINAL: grafstrb

without having read others' replies, and knowing very well that your dinner is likely already in your belly, i'll throw-out my suggestion for posterity sake: the chicken eliminates many options right off the bat, and the garlic eliminates nearly all reds (in my mind, it eliminates all reds) as well as oaky whites.  I bet an off-dry Riesling would work well -- a Spatlese would be my choice.

EDIT: wow, i'm amazed at all the CdP recos.  glad it was a success.  looking forward to your next pairing challenge.


grafs,
Southern Rhone Reds (but not necessesarily CdP) have become my favorite pairing with Roasted Chicken, especially if herbed in any way and accompanied by nearly any roasted vegetable.  Palates are a funny thing, aren't they?
Craig


indeed, they are! that's why i love these threads. i can see how a so. rhone red would pair well with herbed roasted chicken, but i shy away from that pairing unless i'm familiar with the particular wine -- i say this b/c i usually find so. rhones to be too powerful for the pairing - they usually overwhelm the chicken. of course, my so. rhone pairings are almost always CdR's or CdP's, which tend to be pretty big wines. every once in a while i do come across a lighter-styled version, which i can imagine would be a wonderful pairing. but even more than the chicken/red wine thing, i find that garlic has a way of absolutely killing my palate for wine, with only an incredibly acidic and/or high r.s. wine being able to cut through the clamps that garlic tends to place on my palate.



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RE: Toughest Pairing Challenge ever... Roasted Root Veg... - 1/13/2010 11:51:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rossodio

Yeah, the root vegetable recipe is about as easy as it gets to make. Since it sounds like a lot of people are at the very least interested in the pairing, I'll share the recipe I use. This came from trial and error, and is fantastic this way:

Root vegetables and others, peeled and cut into larger bite sized pieces and adding in total to 2 lbs or so:
Carrots
Parsnips
Turnips
Red Onion
Potatoes (the little assortment bag of small multicolored potatoes works if they're quartered)
Anything else you can think of along these lines (I guess celery might work?)

Plus about 5-15 cloves of garlic, seperated but unpeeled and uncut

Sea salt and black or white pepper to taste

Extra virgin olive oil (don't use any high-end stuff, just the big jug you use for cooking; the recipe takes at *least* 1/2 cup)

Herbs of your choice (just think what would go well in here... thyme, sage, rosemary, tarragon, etc)


1) Preheat oven to 475 degrees (standard bake; convection bake or convection roast, I'm not sure the conversion)
2) Get all dry ingredients including sea salt and pepper and place them in a roasting pan. Pour olive oil on (about 1/4-1/2 cup or more) and toss to coat evenly. There should be a very shallow pool of oil on the bottom of the pan. It's easiest if you use your hands.
3) For a convection oven, roast for 30 mins or until some of the vegetables begin to brown on the outside, tossing with a spatula every 10 minutes to prevent burning on one side or the other. For a standard oven, same procedure, tossing every 10 minutes, but cook for 40-70 minutes, again until the veggies have browned for at least a few minutes.
4) Scoop out of the pan and serve hot.

Don't eat the shells of the garlic cloves - just cut or squeeze the garlic out of the inside. The roasting really softens the flavor up.



There you have it... I think a riesling might work well too. It is a natural match for so many chicken dishes... In fact, I'll do a riesling next time I make this recipe, likely next winter. If any of you makes this recipe, let me know how it goes, and what you paired it with, I'd love to know.

I do something very similar, but in a frying pan, not the oven! And yes, root celery goes great with the other veggies. Languedoc reds are what I usually serve with this.

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