Who makes a wonderful grand vin but a mediocre 2nd wine in Bdx ?

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Who makes a wonderful grand vin but a mediocre 2nd wine... - 1/7/2024 10:49:19 AM

Eduardo787

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Ive found great 2nd wines from great chateaus, but I am wondering about the 2nd wines that are not that great . I was looking at tastig notes and scores from many 2nd wines and some of them seem to be a below average effort. Personally I have only had maybe 8-10 2nd wines from Bdx and most of the time they were what I expected for the price I pay. For example Esperance de Trotanoy in about 1/6 th of the price of the grand vin and to be honest it shows. But La Gravette De Certan is amazing. Le Prieure and Delice De Prieure is also another example that I love the grand vin but the second wine for me was a dissapointment.

I have not tried many 2nd wines and I would like to buy some new options. La Dame , Echo de Lynch, Pagodes de Cos, among many others are wines I am interested, but since most wines need a little bit of cellartime I was wondering which ones should I buy? I do not want to pay double the price for a 2010 2nd wine if I have the option of buying a 2019 or 2020 and cellar it, the thing is that I want to buy the ones that are worth buying.

Any special recomendation? Who makes wonderful 2nd wines ?

FYI, I have Duo De Conseillante, La Gravette De Certan, Petit Figeac, and a few more.

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RE: Who makes a wonderful grand vin but a mediocre 2nd ... - 1/7/2024 12:09:46 PM

jmcmchi

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Alter Ego is much more approachable than the Ch Palmer grand vin

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RE: Who makes a wonderful grand vin but a mediocre 2nd ... - 1/7/2024 5:06:24 PM

recotte

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Recent thread on worthwhile second wines: https://www.cellartracker.com/forum/tm.asp?m=542944

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RE: Who makes a wonderful grand vin but a mediocre 2nd ... - 1/13/2024 11:21:09 AM

davo22

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Alter Ego would top my list. Also consistently done well with Clos du Marquis and Segla. Others vary by vintage. I have some Le Petit Mouton in the cellar but it's still too young to crack open, so can't comment on it.

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