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Proposal: Shiraz-Viognier - 12/24/2007 6:41:09 PM

iByron

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I'm proposing the creation of a "Shiraz-Viognier" entry in the varietal table.

The Shiraz-Viognier blend is a standard product from Australian winemakers: an "all data" search for the "shiraz viognier" yields 183 entries with literally 99% of them from Australia. It's practically an Australian signature at this point. Wineries in South Africa, New Zealand, the US, and France (curiously only Languedoc Roussillon appears in the database) also produce this blend. With 5,888 bottles with 56 pending, it's a safe bet that it will be used.

We already have entries like "Cabernet-Merlot" and "Sémillon-Sauvignon Blanc Blend" (both of which could be considered respectively red or white "Bordeaux Blends"), and even a "Cabernet-Carmenère Blend" entry (the search for which yields only 145 results) so there is precedent.

Byron

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RE: Proposal: Shiraz-Viognier - 12/26/2007 10:14:13 AM

QwertyMIDX

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It's actually common to the Northern Rhone too. Most of the big Northern Rhone appelation reds are actually 85-97% Syrah with the remainder being Viognier. The Austrilian thing is them doing the faux Rhone blends they've gotten so into (and often good at).

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RE: Proposal: Shiraz-Viognier - 12/26/2007 10:22:33 AM

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Actually, its not a blend in the traditional sense, but co-fermentation, and the percentage of Viognier used is very small <5%.

A blend would lighten the colour of the Syrah, but co-fermentation actual deepens and fixes colour.

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RE: Proposal: Shiraz-Viognier - 12/26/2007 10:45:03 AM

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Well its a field blend and is indeed co-fermented, but its not like that is unique to the Northern Rhone, its the nature of field blends. Even those Ridge Zin blends are co-fermented field blends as are, of course, plenty of bordeauxs. Also, while the percentages are often below 5%, can get quite high too. Cote-Rotie for example allows up to 20%. For example a Philippe Faury Cote-Rotie I had a few months ago was up near 15% if I remember correctly.

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RE: Proposal: Shiraz-Viognier - 12/26/2007 2:33:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: QwertyMIDX

Well its a field blend and is indeed co-fermented,

I ts unlikely any of the new-world Shiraz/Viogniers are field blends.

I'm also not convinced that many (if any) Bordeaux's are field blends since the varieties ripen at different times,

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